Re: I voted

2002-11-10 Thread John Garcia

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 10:53  PM, Steve Sloan II wrote:


John Garcia wrote:


We have the same type booths here in Manhattan. There's
something satisfying about pulling the lever down and
hearing that 'Ka-chunk!'.


So, do you imagine that you're ka-chunking on the
politician's head? That would be pretty satisfying here
in Alabama, at least. ;-)
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Re: Grocery Shopping Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-09 Thread Jim Sharkey

Julia Thompson wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
 
John D. Giorgis wrote:
Uhh... my Church will sell you cheescakes on your way out the door.

{Homer Simpson}m, cheesecake, uhhh...{/HS}
 
Anyone ever try Oreo cookie cheesecake?  It's a heart attack poured
onto a graham cracker crust.  :)
 
Wouldn't that be a bit better poured onto an Oreo cookie crust?  Or 
at least *some* sort of chocolate crust?

Oooh, that sounds much better!  When can you send me some?  ;)

Jim

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Re: Grocery Shopping Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-08 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:23 AM 11/8/2002 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
Is there some place between your office and your home that you'd pass
very close to on public transportation on your way home from work, that
you could *just* buy some fruit at?  Can you carry a week's worth of
fruit on public transportation?  That might cut down on the car trips to
the grocery store.

Well, the only thing is a 7-11 right next to my Metro Station, where I can
pick up bread, milk, and bananas if I have a little bit of time before my
bus arrives.

On the other hand, if you don't start the car often enough, it may be
more difficult to start, so if you have to start it anyway to keep it
running happily, might as well go buy groceries, yes?

Well, I always have to use it to go to Church - since the nearest bus stop
is a good quarter mile from my Church.

Of course, the grocery store is only .5 miles from my house, so I can in a
pinch get off the bus there on my way home from work, and then walk home,
thus avoiding use of the car.   What I usually do, however, is drive to
Church, go directly to the game after Church, and then stop at the grocery
store on my way home from watching the game - thus, one car trip per week.
 Excluding of course, my not-infrequent road trips, or my current habit of
driving in to work on the weekends to accomplish things.

JDG
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Satellite Setup, was Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-08 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 10:19 AM 11/8/02, Julia Thompson wrote:


Is it more expensive than getting the satelite setup




Ahem.  That's sateLLite . . .



-- Ronn! :)

Ronn Blankenship
Instructor of Astronomy/Planetary Science
University of Montevallo
Montevallo, AL

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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-08 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 10:28 PM 11/7/02, Steve Sloan II wrote:

Ronn Blankenship wrote, about the Alabama governor's race:

  With any luck, sometime before the end of January I'll
  find out who was elected governor.

Julia Thompson wrote:

 So what's the holdup?  I know what it was in Tarrant
 County, TX and I can go back and see what it was in Bexar
 County. (All the counties considered to be in the Austin
 paper's area had reasonably smooth vote-counting. *My*
 county had full results on the internet when I checked 45
 minutes after the polls closed, so no problem *there*)

In one county, the incumbent Democratic governor was about
3K votes ahead of the Republican challenger, then the results
suddenly and mysteriously switched so that the Republican was
3K ahead.




FWIW, the discrepencacy was blamed on a software glitch, which was 
reportedly found and fixed sometime Tuesday.  However, the figures that 
went to the local and national media and to the Democratic candidate's 
people were supposedly the erroneous ones (showing some 6000+ extra votes 
for the Democrat which did not exist), which led him to claim victory after 
both local and national media declared him the winner.  Someone noticed, 
though, that the total vote in the governor's race was different from the 
totals in any other race, leading to the discovery of the error.  The votes 
were supposed to be certified NLT noon today (Friday), but Siegelman (D 
incumbent) is still calling for a recount.  Riley (R challenger) is 
supposed to give a live press conference at 6 pm CST (17 minutes from now) 
. . .



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Re: Satellite Setup, was Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-08 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn Blankenship wrote:
 
 At 10:19 AM 11/8/02, Julia Thompson wrote:
 
 Is it more expensive than getting the satelite setup
 
 Ahem.  That's sateLLite . . .

You're right, and I don't think I can even use the child in my lap as I
type one-handed excuse that I could use right now

Julia
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Re: Satellite Setup, was Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-08 Thread Erik Reuter
 In a message dated 11/8/2002 4:48:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  Ahem.  That's sateLLite . . .
  

Actually, I believe the correct way to write it is satellite.


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Re: Satellite Setup, was Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-08 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/8/2002 5:38:51 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Ahem.  That's sateLLite . . .
   
 
 Actually, I believe the correct way to write it is satellite. 

Two L with you,
Two L with me.
Two L with truth and fallacy.

William Taylor

Perhaps the Satellite is one of
H. Beam Piper's Capital ships.
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Re: Grocery Shopping Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-08 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message -
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Grocery Shopping Re: I Voted.



 - Original Message -
 From: Ronn Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Grocery Shopping Re: I Voted.


  At 11:20 AM 11/8/02, John D. Giorgis wrote:
 
  Of course, the grocery store is only .5 miles from my house, so I can
in
 a
  pinch get off the bus there on my way home from work, and then walk
 home,
  thus avoiding use of the car.   What I usually do, however, is drive to
  Church, go directly to the game after Church, and then stop at the
 grocery
  store on my way home from watching the game - thus, one car trip per
 week.
 
 
 
  So your church does not teach that shopping is not an appropriate
Sabbath
  activity?

 Since the bible records the disciples shopping on the Sabbath, and Jesus
 defended them, its probably OK...even if it were Saturday. :-)


Sabbath just isnt the same without Ozzy!


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Permanent Duck Maru
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Re: Grocery Shopping Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-08 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote:
 
 John D. Giorgis wrote:
  Uhh... my Church will sell you cheescakes on your way out the door.
 
 {Homer Simpson}m, cheesecake, uhhh...{/HS}
 
 Anyone ever try Oreo cookie cheesecake?  It's a heart attack poured
 onto a graham cracker crust.  :)

Wouldn't that be a bit better poured onto an Oreo cookie crust?  Or at
least *some* sort of chocolate crust?

Julia

debating between beer and Ben  Jerry's, and the ice cream is winning
(Chocolate Fudge Brownie)
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Re: I voted

2002-11-07 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 07:51 AM 11/5/2002 -0800 Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
I do have one question for John:  Who was the Green
candidate you voted for, and why?  I, like many here,
am extremely curious about that.

After voting for pro-ICC candidate Ehrlich for Governor  this
then finally convinced me to balance my ticket and
vote for the aptly-named Linda Schade of the Green
Party for State Delegate, since she's the only State
Delegate candidate opposing both the ICC and corporate
welfare. 

Unfortuantely, she came in sixth place anyways, as we elected three pro-ICC
Democrats for our three State Delegates.  Two Republicans were 4th and 5th.

JDG
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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-07 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/7/2002 6:02:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Actually, I only drive to Church on Sunday, to the Supermarket for
 groceries once a week, and then during footballseason to the Sports Bar to
 watch Bills games.
 
 During the week, I am pretty much solidly on public transport.
 
 JDG 

Once a week groceries?
You have a stronger will than I do. I make jokes here in Tucson about all 
these poor rich people in the foothills who live more than three miles away 
from the nearest Circle K.

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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-07 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 11/7/2002 6:02:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
  Actually, I only drive to Church on Sunday, to the Supermarket for
  groceries once a week, and then during footballseason to the Sports Bar to
  watch Bills games.
 
  During the week, I am pretty much solidly on public transport.
 
  JDG 
 
 Once a week groceries?
 You have a stronger will than I do. I make jokes here in Tucson about all
 these poor rich people in the foothills who live more than three miles away
 from the nearest Circle K.

Sounds disturbingly familiar.

When the nearby Chevron station opened, it cut the driving distance to
buy emergency food by 1/2.  Still more than 3 miles, though.

I do grocery shopping 3 times a week, but one of those is at a specialty
store.

(And looks like I'm going to have to go a 4th time this week -- they
were all out of something Sammy eats a lot of today, sigh.  Plus they're
having sales on stuff we might need to get for Thanksgiving.)

Oh, and John, is it legal for the sports bar to be showing the NFL
game?  Just curious -- it was mentioned that they'd gone after some bars
in the context of a talk-radio conversation about how HBO is going after
a bunch of bars that people go to to watch The Sopranos.

Julia
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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-07 Thread Ronn Blankenship
So did I.

With any luck, sometime before the end of January I'll find out who was 
elected governor.


-- Ronn in Birmingham, AL  :)

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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn Blankenship wrote:
 
 So did I.
 
 With any luck, sometime before the end of January I'll find out who was
 elected governor.
 
 -- Ronn in Birmingham, AL  :)

So what's the holdup?  I know what it was in Tarrant County, TX and I
can go back and see what it was in Bexar County.  (All the counties
considered to be in the Austin paper's area had reasonably smooth
vote-counting.  *My* county had full results on the internet when I
checked 45 minutes after the polls closed, so no problem *there*)

Julia
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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-07 Thread Steve Sloan II
Ronn Blankenship wrote, about the Alabama governor's race:

  With any luck, sometime before the end of January I'll
  find out who was elected governor.

Julia Thompson wrote:

 So what's the holdup?  I know what it was in Tarrant
 County, TX and I can go back and see what it was in Bexar
 County. (All the counties considered to be in the Austin
 paper's area had reasonably smooth vote-counting. *My*
 county had full results on the internet when I checked 45
 minutes after the polls closed, so no problem *there*)

In one county, the incumbent Democratic governor was about
3K votes ahead of the Republican challenger, then the results
suddenly and mysteriously switched so that the Republican was
3K ahead. Now, the Democrat wants a state-wide recount,
apparently counter to state law, and of course the Republican
doesn't want to bend the rules to help the other guy. Basically,
it's like two years ago in Florida all over again.

I personally hate them both, so I checked out the Libertarian
candidate's web page to make sure he wasn't a total nut, then
voted for him instead. I actually voted for the incumbent, Don
Siegelman, in 1998, since he seemed less embarrassing to the
state than his mumbly, slightly crooked Fundie Republican
opponent, Fob James. Unfortunately, Siegelman went on to
embarrass the state anyway, with an insane homophobic rant
about teenage boys wearing earrings. With all the mud-slinging
this year, the new Republican candidate, Bob Riley, proved to
me that he isn't any better than Siegelman.
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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-07 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:38 PM 11/7/2002 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote:
Oh, and John, is it legal for the sports bar to be showing the NFL
game?  Just curious -- it was mentioned that they'd gone after some bars
in the context of a talk-radio conversation about how HBO is going after
a bunch of bars that people go to to watch The Sopranos.

You better believe it.   Catering to out-of-town sports fan is actually a
fairly sizable niche business.   And yes, the NFL charges them plenty for
the public exhibition license.

The only exception is a blacked-out local NFL game.

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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-06 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:22 05-11-2002 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:


Sheesh Dan, in so many words he has branded himself a commie.
He needs to move in with Jeroen!


Hey, I ain't no stinkin' commie! I consider myself a socialist, thank you 
very much!   :-)


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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-06 Thread Matt Grimaldi
J. van Baardwijk wrote:
 
 At 18:22 05-11-2002 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
 
 Sheesh Dan, in so many words he has branded himself a commie.
 He needs to move in with Jeroen!
 
 Hey, I ain't no stinkin' commie! I consider myself a socialist, thank you
 very much!   :-)
 
 Jeroen Workers of the world, unite! van Baardwijk
 

In most conservative USAn's eyes,
those two terms are interchangable,
and you wouldn't believe what they'll
stretch to turn most anything they
dislike into communism.

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RE: I Voted.....

2002-11-06 Thread Horn, John
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Medievalbk;aol.com]
 
  Then again, I'm one of the people who voted for a dead guy 
 2 years ago... 
 
 
 Is he still registered as a voter?

I must say, I don't know.  I doubt it, but considering the state of the
political process in this state, I wouldn't be surprised.  His wife (who was
appointed to his seat) got beat yesterday...

 - jmh
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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-06 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/6/2002 8:58:46 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Jeroen Workers of the world, unite! van Baardwijk 

Just don't unite too often while in the mail room and on your coffee break.
Sooner or later the boss will realize why the copier needs fixing so often.

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Re: I voted

2002-11-06 Thread Steve Sloan II
John Garcia wrote:

 We have the same type booths here in Manhattan. There's
 something satisfying about pulling the lever down and
 hearing that 'Ka-chunk!'.

So, do you imagine that you're ka-chunking on the
politician's head? That would be pretty satisfying here
in Alabama, at least. ;-)
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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-05 Thread Dan Minette

- Original Message -
From: J.D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:14 AM
Subject: I Voted.



 The other huge difficult with my votes this year is
 that I am opposed to building the Inter-County
 Connector, a new superhighway that is being proposed.
  As an economist, I know that the evidence from the
 experience of other cities is that building
 duplicative highways like the ICC usually does
 little-to-nothing to reduce congestion.  Rather,
 people simply take advantage of the additional roads
 to live even further from the cities than they already
 do.  The only proven way to alleviate congestion is to
 invest the money into mass-transit, such that the
 critical mass of transit destinations and transit
 frequency makes the mass transit a truly viable
 alternative to roads for consumers who want to travel
 exactly where they want to go exactly when they want
 to go.

Son, here in the Lone Star State, that'd be enough to get you branded as a
damn socialist. They wouldn't listen any mealy mouthed excuses that you
were really a conservative.

Dan M.


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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Me too.  My wife and I took both kids to the polls -
Franny sat with me, while Melissa and Drew were right
next to us.

I ended up voting mostly Democrat, with the exception
of John Carter for Congress (you have no idea how
giddy with joy I am that I no longer have Lamar Smith
as my rep).  There were a large number of local
positions with only one candidate listed, so in those
instances I either didn't fill in the bubble at all
(if I wasn't up to speed on the candidate's positions
or strongly disagreed with them) or, if I agreed with
the candidate in some degree, filled it in.  Maybe
I'll run for one of those uncontested positions next
time.  Heh.

A friend of ours was running for state representative
- he's running as a Democrat in Williamson County, so
the odds are he's going to get hammered, but he's
running a very centrist campaign, and is in addition a
very civic-minded and rational person, so I'm hoping
he's got a chance.

I spent a lot of time dithering about Sanchez and
Perry for governor - they've both been running pretty
sleazy campaigns, but after I read up on the
Libertarian and Green candidates' positions, I didn't
much care for either of them.  Ultimately, I voted for
Sanchez simply because his ads were slightly less
sleazy than Perry's.

I do have one question for John:  Who was the Green
candidate you voted for, and why?  I, like many here,
am extremely curious about that.

Adam C. Lipscomb
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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/2002 8:15:54 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The other huge difficult with my votes this year is
 that I am opposed to building the Inter-County
 Connector, a new superhighway that is being proposed. 

Using the same criteria, you would have a very tough time voting in Tucson. 
Most N-S busses run once an hour, E-W every half hour. We are too spread out 
for any other mass transit. Downtown is a place 95 out of 100 Tucsonans never 
go to except to a governmental building by necessity. No freeway through 
town; just around the edges. No place to put one except in the dry river 
beds. Greens are more into zero growth than controlled growth, and very few 
conservationists believe in tearing down already built dams.

As for abortion, I don't think anyone running can come out and say they want 
to make it illegal. Keeping a taxpayer from paying for it is a radical enough 
idea in this land of Udal et al.

William Taylor 
(4 Rep, 4 Libetarian, and a hell of a lot of blank spces.
No to all gambling props.)

Too many people are belting down belts before
barreling down the beltway for my tastes. 



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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/2002 9:49:44 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Then again, I'm one of the people who voted for a dead guy 2 years ago... 


Is he still registered as a voter?

I loved the British Labour comedy bit where lack of brainwaves was not used 
to determine death as it might be prejudicial to some of the current 
employees. Body temperature became the criterion. So space heaters were used 
to enable some employees to work triple overtime.

William Taylor

Hmm.
An Indian reservation on the Mall.
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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Kevin Tarr
As long as we are confessing: I just got back from voting. Only three races 
and one question. Governor, US Rep, and a lone Repub running for state 
house. Without saying who I selected, I'm only sure of one vote, the house 
race is a toss up, and the governor race is strongly to one side. I was 
hoping the heavy rain and wind would have gotten here this morning instead 
of tonight, I think that would have made the race much different.

The question was: should PA float a $100 million dollar loan for volunteer 
fire departments. I voted yes but didn't want to. It could turn into 
another gapping hole we pour money into, with no real results.

There were Green and Lib candidates, but their ideas were too far out 
there. Some of the things they said were downright silly. The gov race 
directly affects me as a state employee with our contract coming up in 8 
months. I could be on strike then, the  front runner balanced his cities 
budget on the backs of government workers and benefits, while spending 
spending spending more money.

Kevin T.
Fingers crossed

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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Jim Sharkey

My wife and I voted ealry today.  One of the good things about voting here in NJ is 
they still use the old lever-voting booths.  We were able to bring the kids into the 
booths with us and give them a little taste of what it's about.

Jim

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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:50:14PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:

 My wife and I voted ealry today.  One of the good things about voting
 here in NJ is they still use the old lever-voting booths.  We were
 able to bring the kids into the booths with us and give them a little
 taste of what it's about.

No levers in Somerset county, New Jersey. They had a nice new computer
in my district. It basicaly had a gigantic plasticized ballot with big
buttons next to each name and little green LEDs behind the plastic. You
hit the buttons you want causing the LEDs to light up next to the names
you selected, then make a quick check for errors, then hit the cast
ballot button. Pretty slick. I didn't see any ballot print out or
anything; I guess it stored the data on the computer somewhere but I'm
not sure.



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RE: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Horn, John
 From: Jim Sharkey [mailto:templar569;excite.com]
 
 My wife and I voted ealry today.  One of the good things 
 about voting here in NJ is they still use the old 
 lever-voting booths.  We were able to bring the kids into the 
 booths with us and give them a little taste of what it's about.

I never got to go in when I was a kid.  I just stayed outside and played
with the sample voting machines until my parents got done voting...

 - jmh
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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/2002 3:50:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My wife and I voted ealry today.  One of the good things about voting here 
in NJ is they still use the old lever-voting booths 

Do those things leave a paper tape or other record of individual voter 
choices?

I heard early stories about cross voting touch screens.

William Taylor
-
Red lights hell! More cameras on the lines outside of poling places.
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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote:
 
 On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:50:14PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
 
  My wife and I voted ealry today.  One of the good things about voting
  here in NJ is they still use the old lever-voting booths.  We were
  able to bring the kids into the booths with us and give them a little
  taste of what it's about.
 
 No levers in Somerset county, New Jersey. They had a nice new computer
 in my district. It basicaly had a gigantic plasticized ballot with big
 buttons next to each name and little green LEDs behind the plastic. You
 hit the buttons you want causing the LEDs to light up next to the names
 you selected, then make a quick check for errors, then hit the cast
 ballot button. Pretty slick. I didn't see any ballot print out or
 anything; I guess it stored the data on the computer somewhere but I'm
 not sure.

Saying I voted with method X because that's what my state does appears
to be inaccurate.  It's been my observation that ballot types vary from
county to county.  Frex, Williamson County uses the paper ballots you
mark which later get scanned, while Travis County, at least for early
voting, was using electronic machines that didn't use paper ballots. 
(They were using some sort of paper ballot today, though.  I don't know
the details on it.)

As far as taking kids to vote:

1)  We heard from Adam that he and his wife took their kids, and he had
one while she had the other, and they watched the voting.  That's good,
IMO.

2)  Sammy's at a really bad age for that sort of thing, so when *we*
went, I voted while Dan had Sammy (and the nearest early voting place
was at a rec center, so Sammy got to see some raquetball played), and
when I was done, I tracked them down and then Dan went and voted while I
was with Sammy, who bored of the raquetball but was interested in it
again after a short break.

3)  My friends who live in Travis County and have a daughter 23 months
older than Sammy took her with them, and let her watch them vote with
the fully electronic systems.  (May have been touch screens involved.)

I think it's cool that people are taking their kids to see how this
whole voting thing works.

Oh, and if anyone is curious about the counties I mentioned, Travis
County is the one that contains most of Austin, and Williamson County is
the one directly to the north.

Julia
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Re: I Voted.....

2002-11-05 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message -
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: I Voted.



 - Original Message -
 From: J.D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:14 AM
 Subject: I Voted.



  The other huge difficult with my votes this year is
  that I am opposed to building the Inter-County
  Connector, a new superhighway that is being proposed.
   As an economist, I know that the evidence from the
  experience of other cities is that building
  duplicative highways like the ICC usually does
  little-to-nothing to reduce congestion.  Rather,
  people simply take advantage of the additional roads
  to live even further from the cities than they already
  do.  The only proven way to alleviate congestion is to
  invest the money into mass-transit, such that the
  critical mass of transit destinations and transit
  frequency makes the mass transit a truly viable
  alternative to roads for consumers who want to travel
  exactly where they want to go exactly when they want
  to go.

 Son, here in the Lone Star State, that'd be enough to get you branded as a
 damn socialist. They wouldn't listen any mealy mouthed excuses that you
 were really a conservative.

Sheesh Dan, in so many words he has branded himself a commie.
He needs to move in with Jeroen!
G

xponent
Troublemaker Maru
rob


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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Jim Sharkey

William Taylor wrote:
 In a message dated 11/5/2002 3:50:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
voting here in NJ is they still use the old lever-voting booths 
 
Do those things leave a paper tape or other record of individual 
voter choices?

I assume it's a paper tape or something.  I have to be honest, though, I don't really 
know how they work.

Jim

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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/2002 6:22:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Do those things leave a paper tape or other record of individual 
 voter choices?
 
 I assume it's a paper tape or something.  I have to be honest, though, I 
don't really know how they work.
 
 Jim
  

[Visions of Democratic party boss in $700 pinstriped suit and 
holding a Cuban cigar: Excellent.]

--Quick! Blame a Republican for something so we have list balance.---

William Taylor
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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 11/5/2002 6:32:55 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
  The rumors of the electronic machines in Dallas that would only record
  straight-ticket Republican wasn't enough?  ;)
   
 
 The Devil lives in Dallas. Who else could have designed the Central
 Expressway?
 
 It was a necessary evil in order to get to Half Price Books.

Which one?

The flagship store?  With shopping carts?

I went there once.  *Major* droolfest.  That is the *best* used
bookstore I've ever been in.  (By virtue of being so large, it has an
incredible number of titles available.)

I think the guy we were helping pack up to move lived just off of
Central.  (I drove his girlfriend up, and we helped him pack.  I spent
the nights at my brother-in-law's house in Richardson because the guy we
were helping has cats, and I'm allergic.  So's my brother-in-law, so he
doesn't have any)

I have no idea now where any of the cool places we went while taking
breaks really are.

Julia
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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  The rumors of the electronic machines in Dallas
 that would only record
  straight-ticket Republican wasn't enough?  ;)
   
 
 The Devil lives in Dallas. Who else could have
 designed the Central Expressway?
 
 It was a necessary evil in order to get to Half
 Price Books.

LOL
That was my favorite bookstore when I lived in Dallas
(although Shakespeare, Beethoven  Co. was fun too).
I sure appreciated the T-bird's acceleration capacity
when merging into 70+mph traffic (aka 'the prayer
zone')... Don't you just love it when someone ahead of
you *stops* at the end of the on-ramp?  :P

VFP Zoom

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Dallas the world turns, was Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/2002 6:53:31 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  It was a necessary evil in order to get to Half Price Books.
 
 Which one?
 
 The flagship store?  With shopping carts?
  

Yes. Also the old flagship store that was near the Dr. Pepper plant. And at 
that time, the Central Expressway only had those tiny central island signs 
that told you what the next exit was. Totally unreadable when behind a van.

Has anyone built a quarter circle ten story building on the eat side. With 
those gold reflective windows, the focal point of the curve should be the 
center southbound lane.

William Taylor
---
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Re: I voted

2002-11-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/5/2002 7:05:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 VFP Zoom 

Veterans of Foreign Pavement?

William
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Re: I voted for vitamin C

2002-11-05 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Debbi
  Daily Orange Juice And Green Leafy Vegetable Maru
 
 
 Not in the same glass, I hope.

Oh, eeuww! That would make a most unappealing brown
color, even if it would be quite a healthy snack
(except for the potential 'urp' factor, which might
negate any benefits).

 VFP Zoom 

[William:]  Veterans of Foreign Pavement?

Well, Texas _is_ perhaps another country;  wasn't
there recent mention of 'Republic' still in its
Constitution?

Debbi

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