Re: [BRLTTY] Honor distribution LDFLAGS when building drivers

2018-05-28 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 28 May 2018, Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: > OK, thanks for info, please provide me the patch / commit link once > the feature is ready. FYI Tomas has just started working on the dracut module While talking of Fedora... It seems that the version of BRLTTY built by Fedora does not include

Re: [BRLTTY] Regression Hedo MobiLine

2018-07-19 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Dave Mielke wrote: > I've been ignoring a lot of things, including this list, for a bit because my > wife of 40 years died about a week and a half ago. We had a wonderful marriage > which, among other things, yielded 13 children. No longer being together is > taking a bit of

Re: [BRLTTY] [OT] betris -- a horizontal braille version of tetris

2018-08-30 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Fri, 31 Aug 2018, Mario Lang wrote: > I'd be interested in feedback. > I have only tested it with one other blind person yet. > > It is a haskell projeect. To install, run: > > $ cabal update > $ cabal install betris Well I get: Resolving dependencies... cabal: Could not resolve

Re: [BRLTTY] Speak indentation

2018-09-11 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Sebastian Humenda on 2018/09/09 at 19:28 +0200] > > >I would like to request a functionality that, if switched on, would the > >number > >and kind of indentation when changing the current line. > > What about when line numbering is

Re: [BRLTTY] screen driver in brlapi

2018-11-03 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Samuel Thibault on 2018/11/04 at 00:36 +0100] > > >Ok, so we really have to read the whole screen before calling poll(). > > Not necessarily. It all depends on the paradigm. Let's say that brltty only > ever cared about the part of the

Re: [BRLTTY] screen driver in brlapi

2018-11-04 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, Tage Johansson wrote: > How ever, I still don't understand how to use the "poll" function. What > arguments should I give and what does it actually? See here: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/using-the-select-and-poll-methods/ You may disregard the note about Linux 2.4

Re: [BRLTTY] New Release And Debian Freeze

2018-12-04 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Sebastian Humenda on 2018/12/04 at 11:07 +0100] > > >I was just asking for the current release plans :). > > No problem. It'll be as soon as I can get set up to do a Windows build again. > I'm doing that as time permits, which may well

Re: [BRLTTY] HumanWare/Braillant question

2018-11-19 Thread Nicolas Pitre
You may try holding down the power button for 15 seconds or so to reset the device. If the internal battery is dead then you might have some difficulties powering it up and it might require several attempts. My very old Brailliant 40 could be brought to life only after I opened it up and

Re: [BRLTTY] HumanWare/Braillant question

2018-11-19 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, Shérab wrote: > Did you manage to remove the dead battery on your own? Yes. > I mean, is this doable by a visually impaired person without any danger, > or would you suggest to ask sighted assistance to do that? I'm a computer engineer and I am fairly clever with my hands.

Re: [BRLTTY] Speak indentation

2018-09-11 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, Sebastian Humenda wrote: > Hi > > Nicolas Pitre schrieb am 09.09.2018, 18:02 -0400: > >On Sun, 9 Sep 2018, Sebastian Humenda wrote: > >> Dave Mielke schrieb am 09.09.2018, 13:58 -0400: > >> >[quoted lines by Sebastian Humenda on 2018/09/09

Re: [BRLTTY] adding dots 7 and 8 to characters

2019-08-12 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, pray...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: > This is probably more a question about the 8-dot computer braille code > which I can't find neatly defined anywhere. > > I'm writing a customized music notation for a particular application and > I'd like to make dots 7-8 act as modifiers to

Re: [BRLTTY] What is the best way to deal with Unicode characters?

2019-09-28 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, S. Massy wrote: > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 04:10:07PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > We may blink dots 7 and 8 for that. If, say, dot 7 blinks then this is > > the equivalent of dot 9 being active. Same for dot 8 representing dot > > 10. And the tim

Re: [BRLTTY] Accessible metronome program

2019-09-28 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, Shérab wrote: > Hi, > > S. Massy (2019/09/23 08:21 -0400): > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 10:06:57AM +0200, Shérab wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Is anybody aware of an accessible (console-based) metronome program? > > Depends on the level of features you're after. > > It

Re: [BRLTTY] ‘empty console’

2019-11-17 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Sebastian Humenda wrote: > Hi > > Sebastian Humenda schrieb am 05.11.2019, 22:01 +0100: > >on a freshly installed GNU/Linux system I am experiencing an ‚empty’ screen > >with BRLTTY. > >After booting the machine, the braille display is empty and shows only the > >blinking

Re: [BRLTTY] Build brltty with support for espeak-ng

2019-12-07 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sat, 7 Dec 2019, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Tage Johansson on 2019/12/06 at 21:09 +0100] > > >Ok, so this is extremely strange. I've tested things again and it seems like > >the speech sometimes is interrupted when moving to a new line in the midle of > >a line but not always. It

Re: [BRLTTY] Build brltty with support for espeak-ng

2019-12-08 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sat, 7 Dec 2019, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on 2019/12/07 at 20:59 -0500] > > >One thing worth looking in the log is the delay between the sending of > >the "mute speech" and the reception of the "speech finished" response. &g

Re: [BRLTTY] Build brltty with support for espeak-ng

2019-12-08 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on 2019/12/08 at 12:39 -0500] > > >Still, isn't there a "speech finished" event received upon sending a mute() ? > > Sure, but not in this case. That's how it used to work, but it was too slow

Re: [BRLTTY] ‘empty console’

2019-11-26 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, Sebastian Humenda wrote: > Nicolas Pitre schrieb am Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 02:09:52PM -0500: > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Sebastian Humenda wrote: > > > I have now had a chance to find out more about the issue. I can reproduce > > > this > > >

Re: [BRLTTY] ‘empty console’

2019-11-27 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Sebastian Humenda wrote: > Nicolas Pitre schrieb am Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 04:44:42PM -0500: > > What does "stty -a" give you, with and without the font change? More > > specifically, what are the reported rows and columns values on the first > >

Re: [BRLTTY] ‘empty console’

2019-11-28 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Thu, 28 Nov 2019, Sebastian Humenda wrote: > Nicolas Pitre schrieb am Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:38:29PM -0500: > > On the BRLTTY's side, there could possibly be a way to use TIOCGWINSZ on > > the console device when vcsa returns 255 on the screen dimension. But > > that w

Re: [BRLTTY] Newbie curious about Inceptor braille display driver.

2020-01-26 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 26 Jan 2020, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by tony seth on 2020/01/26 at 16:24 -0800] > > >I actually don't need my caps to blink, just the cursor. > > So how do you know, when reading, if a letter is capital or not? What you could do is a binding that only keeps capitals visible

Re: [BRLTTY] Newbie curious about Inceptor braille display driver.

2020-01-27 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 27 Jan 2020, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on 2020/01/26 at 21:05 -0500] > > >What you could do is a binding that only keeps capitals visible masking > >out everything else when a key is pressed, and restore normal display > >the moment tha

Re: [BRLTTY] How to turn off brltty?

2019-12-23 Thread Nicolas Pitre
What distro are you using? On Tue, 24 Dec 2019, 高生旺 wrote: > No such command on my distro. > > On Mon, 23 Dec 2019, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 22:18:17 -0500 (EST) > > From: Nicolas Pitre > > To: 高生旺 > > Cc: brltty@brltty.app >

Re: [BRLTTY] How to turn off brltty?

2019-12-23 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 24 Dec 2019, 高生旺 wrote: > Hi, > > Sometimes brltty works disordered. > In the past I can use command "killall brltty" to turn it off. > But it doesn't work now. > Are there other ways to do so? You may try with "systemctl stop brltty".

Re: [BRLTTY] Can BRLTTY indicaste indentation?

2020-08-21 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, John J. Boyer wrote: > Consider the following deeply indented Python statement. > wordType = adverb > There are five tabs. I would like BRLTTY to replace them with simicolons > ;wordType = adverb

Re: [BRLTTY] Can BRLTTY indicaste indentation?

2020-08-21 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, Adrian van Bloois wrote: > If you use a 40 cell display then you are using the wrong hammer for the > job. > In my professional life I alwasy worked with 80 cell displays. This is largely a question of personal taste. In my professional life I always worked with 40 cell

Re: [BRLTTY] Unicode braille patterns

2020-10-21 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Lars Bjørndal on 2020/10/21 at 21:23 +0200] > > >I'm working on a project where I need to be able to quickly distinguish > >between normal letters and braille patterns in the range 0x2800-0x28FF on > >the braille display, with BRLTTY in

Re: [BRLTTY] Blinking glyphs (was: Re: Unicode braille patterns)

2020-10-23 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Fri, 23 Oct 2020, Aura Kelloniemi wrote: > Dave Mielke writes: > > Do you mean that, for each individual character, a text table should be > able to > > define which of its dots should blink? > > Yes. > > > What about different blinking patterns? > > Do you mean that the different dots

Re: [BRLTTY] Raspberry Pi bluetooth pairing question

2020-07-22 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, Fanus Buys wrote: > While mentioning bluetooth, has anyone found a way to activate BT on a PI 3B > without having to use the GUI, i.e. how to activate it from the command line > or by changing some or other config file? The bluetoothctl command gives you an interactive

[BRLTTY] brltty-friendly spreadsheet program

2021-03-22 Thread Nicolas Pitre
If any of you have been looking for a text-mode brltty-friendly spreadsheet program to do your accounting or any other task for which such a program could come handy then I have good news for you. I was actually looking for such a program myself, and I found sc-im:

Re: [BRLTTY] mantis q40

2021-02-14 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021, Florian Beijers wrote: > Hello Dave, > > For some reason, your message didn't make it to me, but I saw it from > the list digest. That's because every messages distributed by the mailing list server has the "Reply-To: " header entry. This means that, by default, the

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty and speech

2021-08-31 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, Devin Prater wrote: > The speaking rest of line may be helpful in kind of speed > reading braille, where you may read the first part of a line, let's say > half the display length, or a quarter of it, and the TTS reads the rest, > for a sort of multi-sensory approach. Just a

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 4 Oct 2021, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2021/10/04 at 15:50 +0300] > > >I would also like to get rid of this space removal right away, because I'm > >debugging alignment issues, and I might provide misinformation to developers > >because of this. Could you

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters on Linux

2021-10-04 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 4 Oct 2021, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2021/10/04 at 19:29 +0300] > > >Seems to work, thanks. (In fact I see more problems in some applications, > > There might be another place (I foget off the top of my head) that also needs > to be changed which has to

Re: [BRLTTY] [slint] Re: User 'pawel' in Polish

2021-11-21 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021, Didier Spaier wrote: > Le 20/11/2021 à 17:57, Dave Mielke a écrit : > > > The tune device is set via a preference. Newer releases (I can look up which > > one) have an override-preferences option. It takes name=value, so: > > > > command line: -o tune-device=beeper > >

Re: [BRLTTY] Making brltty speak

2021-12-15 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > Hi Nicolas and many thanks for your testimonial! > > IS it brltty that you use to control the speech synthesis system, or > do you use two different screen readers, one for speech and brltty for > braille? Speech is controlled by brltty. The

Re: [BRLTTY] Making brltty speak

2021-12-15 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Thu, 16 Dec 2021, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > Is it pulseaudio that you use to output speech? On my main workstation: no. On my RPi: possibly, I'm not sure. > Does it run as root on your system? Last time I consciously used it, then yes it did. That required a few config changes though. I

Re: [BRLTTY] Making brltty speak

2021-12-15 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > I'm a full-time braille user aspiring to experiment with audio to see > whether that could bring a gain either in productivity, or in saving > energy or perhaps even both. I've been using braille and speech simultaneously since the day I

Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.4 often crashes how to debug?

2021-12-14 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021, 高生旺 wrote: > Computer can work but braille never displayed. how to debug? The latest > compiled souce. You may try starting brltty with the -Z command line argument. If it works that means brltty privileges aren't set properly.

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters (was: Re: 6.5 soon)

2022-02-01 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 1 Feb 2022, Dave Mielke wrote: > And what about my position that the default should be the way it is now? I > want to make it easy for the actual language users. Those users certainly have a braille table with definitions for all the unicode characters they may encounter. I think the

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters (was: Re: 6.5 soon)

2022-02-03 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Wed, 2 Feb 2022, Aura Kelloniemi wrote: > On 2022-02-01 at 20:26 -0500, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2022, Dave Mielke wrote: > > I think the default should be for wide characters that have no braille > > representation (currently represented by a que

Re: [BRLTTY] Multi-column characters (was: Re: 6.5 soon)

2022-02-03 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Wed, 2 Feb 2022, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on 2022/02/01 at 20:26 -0500] > > >I think the default should be for wide characters that have no braille > >representation (currently represented by a question mark) to span 2 > >cells with

Re: [BRLTTY] 6.5 soon

2022-01-21 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Fri, 21 Jan 2022, Dave Mielke wrote: > I'm thinking of releasing 6.5 soon. Does anyone know of anything that still > needs to be fixed, have any last-minute requests, etc? Double-sized unicode characters, especially when represented by the undefined replacement character, should take up 2

Re: [BRLTTY] Change Braille Table in Arch Linux Console

2022-06-08 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, Life in Six Dots wrote: > I however cannot achieve this with my Brailliant B 80. Is there a way to > enter the Preference menu without a perkins-style keyboard? Have a look here: https://brltty.app/doc/KeyBindings/brl-bm-sv.html

Re: [BRLTTY] Making easier to accumulate filenames in theclipboard

2023-07-03 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > Dear all, > > I assume that it is a current workflow to have a list of filenames > displayed on screen as output of ls or git status or find etc. and to > accumulate them in the clipboard to then paste them onto another > command-line. Not sure if

Re: [BRLTTY] Making easier to accumulate filenames in theclipboard

2023-07-10 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 9 Jul 2023, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > I still think it could be handy to be able to choose filenames from > within a list, the output of ls, say, as as a sighted user can select > files and folders in a folderview to then perform an operation on them. Same idea: I often do "ls -1 ", do

Re: [BRLTTY] Making easier to accumulate filenames in theclipboard

2023-07-10 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 10 Jul 2023, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > Hello Nicolas and many thanks for your proposed implementation, I think > it's indeed a very good idea! > > I'm just unsure about the separator that shoudl be used when > concatenating. I do understand that '\n' suits your use-case well, but, >

Re: [BRLTTY] Making easier to accumulate filenames in theclipboard

2023-07-08 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sat, 8 Jul 2023, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > Hello, many thanks for this response! > > Nicolas Pitre (2023/07/03 11:03 -0400): > > Not sure if this fits your use case but I often have such list of > > filenames to be found in a vertical list. What I do in that case is to

Re: [BRLTTY] Making easier to accumulate filenames in theclipboard

2023-07-08 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 9 Jul 2023, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > I fear things are not always that straightforward, here. Could you elaborate? I use git literally everyday (every work day at least). And I always found the rectangular copy to be pretty good enough. I use "git diff --stat" more than "git

Re: [BRLTTY] Making easier to accumulate filenames in theclipboard

2023-07-11 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 10 Jul 2023, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on 2023/07/10 at 17:37 -0400] > > >By definition, a rectangular copy is a block. It makes no sense for the > >beginning of that block to be merged with the last line of the existing > >clip

Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working

2023-07-17 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on 2023/07/13 at 14:41 -0400] > > >> Better might be to display a message if TIOCSTI yields EIO. > > > >>Sure. The idea is to let users know why their braille keyboard and > >>c

Re: [BRLTTY] Slightly OT: airport security and braille displays

2023-07-20 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Thu, 20 Jul 2023, Keith Wessel wrote: > Has anyone figured out a smooth way to get a braille display through airport > security? I always take it out of my luggage and put it in plain sight in the tray alongside my backpack, just like for laptops. Same with any electronic development boards

Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working

2023-07-13 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023, Dave Mielke wrote: > I, too, am suspecting that it's the TIOCSTI issue. Can disabled TIOCSTI be detected by BRLTTY so a warning could be displayed at start? Nicolas ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post

Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working

2023-07-13 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on 2023/07/13 at 14:07 -0400] > > >Can disabled TIOCSTI be detected by BRLTTY so a warning could be > >displayed at start? > > Better might be to display a message if TIOCSTI yields EIO. Sure.

Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working

2023-07-15 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Nicolas Pitre on 2023/07/13 at 14:41 -0400] > > >> Better might be to display a message if TIOCSTI yields EIO. > > > >Sure. The idea is to let users know why their braille keyboard and > >cut-and-paste

Re: [BRLTTY] Brltty support on OpenBSD

2023-06-26 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Crystal Kolipe on 2023/06/25 at 21:17 -0300] > > >It's certainly possible to patch OpenBSD to implement a screen readout > >device that would potentially allow brltty to access the console > >independently of any particular login

Re: [BRLTTY] Cursor routing not longer working with kernel 6.3 on Debian testing

2023-06-26 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sun, 25 Jun 2023, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Christian Schoepplein on 2023/06/25 at 20:59 +0200] > > >For me it is OK to set > > > >dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti=1 > > > >in /etc/sysctlconf as a workaround like Rob suggested, thanks Rob for this > >hint! > > I'm wondering if brltty

Re: [BRLTTY] Accents problems in the French manual online

2023-12-06 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 5 Dec 2023, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Jean-Philippe MENGUAL on 2023/12/05 at 12:32 +0100] > > >I was reported (and confirm) that the online manual in French has accents > >problems (they dont appear). I guess there is an encoding problem eg. utf8 or > >something like this. >