Re: Is this disk dead?

2023-08-25 Thread Дмитрий Костин
   Hello.

   I am Russian, so my English may be not perfect enough.

   My suggestions:

   1) The first thing to do with WD is to unmount the electronic board
   from the hermetic block, than clean the contact pads on the board,
   assemble back. See some videos on YouTube of how to do this.

   2) The second thing is useful for all USB-powered drives: try to
   connect the drive to power adapter (5V only!) without "Quick Charge"
   (that gives 9V!) and listen to the sounds it emits with just power,
   without data exchange, mounting etc.

   3) If everything is OK, then try connecting it to the computer and see
   SMART.

   4) Even if that did not help, there is a chance to attach SATA and
   power jacks and try to communicate with the drive in that way.
   Personally I never did so, but my comrades did that successfully. One
   such drive had one bad head - so we were able to recover about 55% of
   the information from it.



   25.08.2023, 10:57, "David Morrison" :

 A friend bought a WD Elements 2TB external portable disk, ie, USB
 powered. It worked ok for a day or two, then she could not get some
 files off it. She asked me to help.
 When I first plugged it in, it would mount. However, trying to copy
 files off it would start, and sometimes copy some files. Often,
 though, it would start copying then there would be a click from the
 drive, and it would just sit there, no error message, but not
 copying either. The disk was still spinning, as the vibration could
 be felt.
 So I started copying it using ddrescue to see if it could be
 recovered.
 bash-3.2# date ; ddrescue -n -f -s 2001GiB /dev/rdisk1 /dev/rdisk2
 Jenni.log ; date
 After nearly two days, it is reporting this:
 Press Ctrl-C to interrupt
   ipos:4938 MB, non-trimmed: 4939 MB,  current rate:   0
 B/s
   opos:4938 MB, non-scraped:0 B,  average
 rate:   0 B/s
 non-tried:1995 GB, bad-sector:0 B,error rate:
 32768 B/s
rescued:0 B,   bad areas:0,run time:  1d
 17h 59m
 pct rescued:0.00%, read errors: 75369,  remaining time:
 n/a
time since last successful
 read: n/a
 Copying non-tried blocks... Pass 5 (forwards)
 The fact that it is on pass 5 and has still not rescued anything at
 all makes me think that the fault is not on the disk surface, but
 somewhere in the electronics. If so, then I suspect I am unlikely to
 get anything off it.
 The way it is going, it looks like it will take several weeks to
 finish. If this is going to be fruitless, I might as well stop now.
 Does this analysis sound reasonable? Is there any chance of
 recovering anything?
 This is ddrescue 1.23.
 Cheers
 David


Re: Is this disk dead?

2023-08-25 Thread David Morrison

Thanks Adrien. I was thinking about that. However, I understand some of them 
are not SATA - the manufacturers put their own simplified (and cheaper) 
controller in the the case, so it is not clear how it could be connected to a 
computer.

I could open the case to see, but that would void the warranty, and the owner 
may want to make a claim to get it replaced. Although maybe a replacement would 
be just as bad

Cheers

David

On 25/8/2023 18:52, Adrien Cordonnier wrote:

Hello David,
The disk is probably dead as suggested by the clicking sound.
If you really want to recover important data which are only on this disk, I 
suggest that you open the USB enclosure and connect the disk directly to the 
computer. The USB controllers are usually not the best to handle defective 
disks.
Cheers,
Adrien

Le ven. 25 août 2023 à 10:56, David Morrison  a 
écrit :

A friend bought a WD Elements 2TB external portable disk, ie, USB powered. 
It worked ok for a day or two, then she could not get some files off it. She 
asked me to help.

When I first plugged it in, it would mount. However, trying to copy files 
off it would start, and sometimes copy some files. Often, though, it would 
start copying then there would be a click from the drive, and it would just sit 
there, no error message, but not copying either. The disk was still spinning, 
as the vibration could be felt.

So I started copying it using ddrescue to see if it could be recovered.

bash-3.2# date ; ddrescue -n -f -s 2001GiB /dev/rdisk1 /dev/rdisk2 
Jenni.log ; date

After nearly two days, it is reporting this:

Press Ctrl-C to interrupt
  ipos:    4938 MB, non-trimmed: 4939 MB,  current rate:   0 B/s
  opos:    4938 MB, non-scraped:    0 B,  average rate:   0 B/s
non-tried:    1995 GB, bad-sector:    0 B,    error rate:   32768 B/s
   rescued:    0 B,   bad areas:    0,    run time:  1d 17h 59m
pct rescued:    0.00%, read errors: 75369,  remaining time: n/a
   time since last successful read: n/a
Copying non-tried blocks... Pass 5 (forwards)

The fact that it is on pass 5 and has still not rescued anything at all 
makes me think that the fault is not on the disk surface, but somewhere in the 
electronics. If so, then I suspect I am unlikely to get anything off it.

The way it is going, it looks like it will take several weeks to finish. If 
this is going to be fruitless, I might as well stop now.

Does this analysis sound reasonable? Is there any chance of recovering 
anything?

This is ddrescue 1.23.

Cheers

David






Re: Is this disk dead?

2023-08-25 Thread Adrien Cordonnier
Hello David,
The disk is probably dead as suggested by the clicking sound.
If you really want to recover important data which are only on this disk, I
suggest that you open the USB enclosure and connect the disk directly to
the computer. The USB controllers are usually not the best to handle
defective disks.
Cheers,
Adrien

Le ven. 25 août 2023 à 10:56, David Morrison 
a écrit :

> A friend bought a WD Elements 2TB external portable disk, ie, USB powered.
> It worked ok for a day or two, then she could not get some files off it.
> She asked me to help.
>
> When I first plugged it in, it would mount. However, trying to copy files
> off it would start, and sometimes copy some files. Often, though, it would
> start copying then there would be a click from the drive, and it would just
> sit there, no error message, but not copying either. The disk was still
> spinning, as the vibration could be felt.
>
> So I started copying it using ddrescue to see if it could be recovered.
>
> bash-3.2# date ; ddrescue -n -f -s 2001GiB /dev/rdisk1 /dev/rdisk2
> Jenni.log ; date
>
> After nearly two days, it is reporting this:
>
> Press Ctrl-C to interrupt
>   ipos:4938 MB, non-trimmed: 4939 MB,  current rate:   0 B/s
>   opos:4938 MB, non-scraped:0 B,  average rate:   0 B/s
> non-tried:1995 GB, bad-sector:0 B,error rate:   32768 B/s
>rescued:0 B,   bad areas:0,run time:  1d 17h 59m
> pct rescued:0.00%, read errors: 75369,  remaining time: n/a
>time since last successful read: n/a
> Copying non-tried blocks... Pass 5 (forwards)
>
> The fact that it is on pass 5 and has still not rescued anything at all
> makes me think that the fault is not on the disk surface, but somewhere in
> the electronics. If so, then I suspect I am unlikely to get anything off it.
>
> The way it is going, it looks like it will take several weeks to finish.
> If this is going to be fruitless, I might as well stop now.
>
> Does this analysis sound reasonable? Is there any chance of recovering
> anything?
>
> This is ddrescue 1.23.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>