Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2017-01-06 Thread awakeyet
wasn't it you though? I thought I was more on their side. unless I'm getting names mixed up on who is replying to who. 2. Jan 2017 10:40 by d...@runbox.com: > I am convinced Narcis is a troll, or just nuts. > > -- > > -Dan Q > > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 01:11:24 +0100 (CET), <>

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2017-01-02 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
I am convinced Narcis is a troll, or just nuts. -- -Dan Q On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 01:11:24 +0100 (CET), wrote: > are you implying that it's silly to look for problems and then improve by > updating? > > I guess  we should just stop looking for vulnerabilities to fix,

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2017-01-02 Thread Narcis Garcia
I mean that it's not just v45 a major reason for this matter, because this reason was the same for v38 and will be the same for v52 and future. I feel the point is to *feel* security and privacy when using Windows as it was at the same level as in GNU/Linux operating systems. Using Icecat number

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2017-01-01 Thread awakeyet
are you implying that it's silly to look for problems and then improve by updating? I guess  we should just stop looking for vulnerabilities to fix, because if we ignore them they will all just go away right? Wrong. 30. Dec 2016 15:38 by informat...@actiu.net: > IceCat 45 must have

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-30 Thread Gary Driggs
Narcis Garcia wrote: > > IceCat 45 must have vulnerabilities too, and then someone will ask for > Icecat 52, etc. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2016-95/-- http://gnuzilla.gnu.org

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-30 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
Should I just ignore this guy now? Because he's starting to sound like he's nuts. -- -Dan Q On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:38:27 +0100, Narcis Garcia wrote: > IceCat 45 must have vulnerabilities too, and then someone will ask for > Icecat 52, etc. > > > El 30/12/16 a les

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-30 Thread Narcis Garcia
IceCat 45 must have vulnerabilities too, and then someone will ask for Icecat 52, etc. El 30/12/16 a les 17:44, Daniel Quintiliani ha escrit: > Numerous remote code execution vulnerabilities? You're kidding me right? > > -- > > -Dan Q > > > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:06:10 +0100, Narcis Garcia

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-30 Thread Gary Driggs
it's OK. private = secure in the same way policy compliant = secure. :-) > On Dec 30, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Daniel Quintiliani wrote: > > Numerous remote code execution vulnerabilities? You're kidding me right? > > -- > > -Dan Q > > >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:06:10 +0100, Narcis

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-30 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
Numerous remote code execution vulnerabilities? You're kidding me right? -- -Dan Q On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:06:10 +0100, Narcis Garcia wrote: > People asking for a new IceCat version for Windows, they already have > IceCat 38.8.0 ans it seems usable. > Any freedom and

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-30 Thread Narcis Garcia
People asking for a new IceCat version for Windows, they already have IceCat 38.8.0 ans it seems usable. Any freedom and security enhancement they ask for, it's to GNU/Linux direction. El 29/12/16 a les 23:58, Daniel Quintiliani ha escrit: > I think there's been a real problem lately where

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-29 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
It's not about security, IceCat is highly insecure, we're always months behind the latest ESR even. It's about people everywhere, regardless of OS, not being stuck with such things as EME and mandatory signing. Hell with Firefox and Chrome, Linux has that now too. -- -Dan Q On Thu, 29 Dec

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-29 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
Well they can get away with targeting home users, and you raise an interesting point about child pornography laws, but for Fortune 500 companies and their trade secrets you have to deal with stuff like non-disclosure agreements, insider trading laws, military contractors, etc. Microsoft would

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-29 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
I think there's been a real problem lately where complaints by users are being confused with official project decisions. Like when v45.5 and v45.3 were released Linux only, some of us asked if a Windows version would be available, and it turned into arguments about whether we should expand

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-29 Thread awakeyet
THIS! 10/10 all the way. devs wasting precious time and resources working on any windows software does nothing to help anyone in any way. we would all be insulting our own intelligence and our principles, the very purpose of icecat; to consider further enabling people to have a false sense of

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-29 Thread Ivan Zaigralin
On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 21:37:31 Daniel Quintiliani wrote: > I doubt Microsoft would risk taking screenshots of employee's computers at > Fortune 500 companies. Do you know how dangerously illegal that is? No, I do not. Please enlighten us. When was the last time a major tech company

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-29 Thread Gary Driggs
Daniel Quintiliani wrote: > > Ruben having discontinued Windows support for IceCat was the best and easiest > way to force most of the human population into DRM. Where did you see any such announcement? Maybe we should start an alternate mailing list, political-gnuzi...@gnu.org, so the rest

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-28 Thread Narcis Garcia
Do you mean you told a supposition without having any report about it? No source link to refer? If so, this informative style harms to freedom and privacy projects. El 29/12/16 a les 03:05, awake...@tutanota.de ha escrit: > "Information source?" > > I hate to be that person that says to go use

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-28 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
Would you close a soup kitchen because it helps discourage people from finding jobs? -- -Dan Q On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:07:17 +0100 (CET), wrote: > I would avoid windows, microsoft, apple, google, and anything from prism at > all costs if you want any sort of freedom

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-28 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
I doubt Microsoft would risk taking screenshots of employee's computers at Fortune 500 companies. Do you know how dangerously illegal that is? -- -Dan Q On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:05:18 +0100 (CET), wrote: > "Information source?" > > I hate to be that person that says to

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-28 Thread awakeyet
I would avoid windows, microsoft, apple, google, and anything from prism at all costs if you want any sort of freedom and privacy to be honest, in my experienced opinion. 28. Dec 2016 14:29 by d...@runbox.com: > But should we add one additional private company (the Mozilla Foundation) to >

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-28 Thread awakeyet
"Information source?" I hate to be that person that says to go use a search engine but if you check out startpage.com and youtube you will find a few good results. "I know. I'd imagine that would violate trade secrets laws, or identity theft if your social security number was involved." and

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-28 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
I know. I'd imagine that would violate trade secrets laws, or identity theft if your social security number was involved. -- -Dan Q On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:23:33 +0100, Narcis Garcia wrote: > "windows literally takes a picture of your desktop every 10 seconds to > 10

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-28 Thread Narcis Garcia
"windows literally takes a picture of your desktop every 10 seconds to 10 minutes and garbles it into a png file and sends it to microsoft" Information source? El 28/12/16 a les 18:26, awake...@tutanota.de ha escrit: > Oh Come On. if you use IceCat on windows for privacy benefits of using a >

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-28 Thread awakeyet
Oh Come On. if you use IceCat on windows for privacy benefits of using a better browser it's completely  and pathetically negated by the very fact that IceCat is running in an operating system who's very job is to spy the ** out of everyone who uses it. windows literally

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-13 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 13/12/16 a les 04:28, Mart Rootamm ha escrit: > I agree with Daniel Quintiliani upthread. > > In addition, > There are many computers with UEFI and some machines with Windows, that > won't allow installation or running of alternative (aka non-Windows) > operating systems. I still haven't

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-12 Thread Mart Rootamm
I agree with Daniel Quintiliani upthread. In addition, There are many computers with UEFI and some machines with Windows, that won't allow installation or running of alternative (aka non-Windows) operating systems. Some machines are tablet computers, where changing the default OS is more

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-12 Thread Gary Driggs
Tails is pretty easy to use; https://tails.boum.org/ > On Dec 12, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Daniel Quintiliani wrote: > > Seems like a lot of work and reading material for a Windows user who just > wants to browse the web and not have to worry about corporate and government >

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-12 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
Seems like a lot of work and reading material for a Windows user who just wants to browse the web and not have to worry about corporate and government spooks. Plus there's the risk M$ is tampering with the virtual machine client, remember you still have UEFI too so it's possible. -- -Dan Q

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-12 Thread Narcis Garcia
In this needings situation I'd prefer one of following options: 1) Use directly the computer with GNU/Linux when needing to browse web 2) Use remotely (eg. vnc) the computer with GNU/Linux to browse web 3) Run a GNU/Linux virtual machine in Windows host to browse web Running FOSS in Windows, you

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-11 Thread Daniel Quintiliani
You think that people who, through no fault of their own, can only afford cheap laptops, or are stuck with Secure Boot and TPM because they lack technical expertise to build a computer, should be forced to use unfree browsers like Edge and Chrome, or the privacy settings of Firefox? I have two

[Bug-gnuzilla] IceCat browser default on Windows 7?

2016-12-03 Thread Petr Vláčil
Hello, I started using this browser as a main on Windows 7 PRO x64bit, but I can't click on set it as a default browser. Is there any chance to set IceCat as a default browser? Thank you in advance. Btw. I found this