Re: [BVARC] Radiowavz, K4KIO or NA4RR hexbeam
Gary, Great info! I think at least for me, the degradation issue between 10 and 12m is negligable, based on the OCF and the Alpha vertical that I am coming from, regardless of which broadband version of hexbeam I'm going to. But the rest this is a lot to drink in. I do have more questions that I have for the manufacturers. Again, great stuff and thanks for passing it along. 73, Rob, KC5RET On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Gary Sitton via BVARC wrote: > I included a link showing the 12/10 M. Interaction. Check it out. > Gary > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > On October 18, 2016 3:24:55 PM Rob McClure via BVARC > wrote: > >> Gary, >> >> I wasn't aware there was another design in use, other than the >> Spiderbeam. >> I like the hexagonal design as it seems to shed the wind better. >> >> I am more comfortable with buying one already built, but I will indeed be >> using a choke balun. >> >> I had never heard about the interference between 10 and 12... Do you know >> how much 10 is impaired? >> >> I may have something for you. Have you ever heard of Textenna Tex Hex >> hexbeam? >> >> I just found out about them today. Evidently they WERE sold by Texas >> Towers but I got an email today from a rep at TT that Textenna was selling >> direct. Here's the info if you don't want to wait for me: >> >> The man you need to talk to is Herb Welch. He can be reached at (214) >> 808-6624. >> >> Thanks for chiming in Gary, the more info I have the better decision I >> can make. >> >> I'll be pulling the trigger on this sometime in the next 4 weeks. >> >> Have you decided on what you're going to mount your hexbeam? Right now >> unless something easier comes along, I'm going to use a Spiderbeam 47' HD >> mast and put the rotator at the bottom and turn the entire thing. I may >> be moving in the next 3 to 5 years and I don't want to install anything I >> can easily take with me. >> >> 73, Rob, KC5RET >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Gary Sitton via BVARC >> wrote: >> >>> Rob: >>> >>>I am about to pull the trigger on a hex beam myself. I >>> think that the K4KIO kit is about the best from my brief >>> research, but a couple of things: >>> >>> 1) The HB configurations these days seem to be the >>> broad band (max 2:1 SWR) design like the K4KIO and >>> I do prefer this design over the classic HB. >>> 2) Definitely get a choke balun ferrite kit for the coax >>> to reduce common mode sneak currents on the coax >>> shield's outer surface. >>> 3) Unless you plan to use 12M., you may want to not >>> wire this band in as it does somewhat impair the 10M. >>> performance due to the closeness of the bands. >>> >>> IMHO, >>> Gary K5AMH >>> >>> http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/multi_perform/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/18/2016 11:44, Rob McClure via BVARC wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Does anyone in the club have any of these hexbeams? >>> >>> If yes can you respond off list? I'd like to ask a few questions since >>> I'm ready to buy one. >>> >>> 73, Rob, KC5RET >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> BVARC mailing >>> listBVARC@bvarc.orghttp://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> BVARC mailing list >>> BVARC@bvarc.org >>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org >>> >>> >> ___ >> BVARC mailing list >> BVARC@bvarc.org >> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org >> >> > ___ > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > > ___ BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
Re: [BVARC] Radiowavz, K4KIO or NA4RR hexbeam
Note that in the link's follow-up notes that they also provide a solution redesign/respacing to avoid the pitfalls of the closely spaced wires. Nice Hexbeam page reference. Thanks, Gary! 73...rick -- W5RH. Rick Hiller *The Radio Hotel* -- W5RH On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Gary Sitton via BVARC wrote: > I included a link showing the 12/10 M. Interaction. Check it out. > Gary > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > On October 18, 2016 3:24:55 PM Rob McClure via BVARC > wrote: > >> Gary, >> >> I wasn't aware there was another design in use, other than the >> Spiderbeam. >> I like the hexagonal design as it seems to shed the wind better. >> >> I am more comfortable with buying one already built, but I will indeed be >> using a choke balun. >> >> I had never heard about the interference between 10 and 12... Do you know >> how much 10 is impaired? >> >> I may have something for you. Have you ever heard of Textenna Tex Hex >> hexbeam? >> >> I just found out about them today. Evidently they WERE sold by Texas >> Towers but I got an email today from a rep at TT that Textenna was selling >> direct. Here's the info if you don't want to wait for me: >> >> The man you need to talk to is Herb Welch. He can be reached at (214) >> 808-6624. >> >> Thanks for chiming in Gary, the more info I have the better decision I >> can make. >> >> I'll be pulling the trigger on this sometime in the next 4 weeks. >> >> Have you decided on what you're going to mount your hexbeam? Right now >> unless something easier comes along, I'm going to use a Spiderbeam 47' HD >> mast and put the rotator at the bottom and turn the entire thing. I may >> be moving in the next 3 to 5 years and I don't want to install anything I >> can easily take with me. >> >> 73, Rob, KC5RET >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Gary Sitton via BVARC >> wrote: >> >>> Rob: >>> >>>I am about to pull the trigger on a hex beam myself. I >>> think that the K4KIO kit is about the best from my brief >>> research, but a couple of things: >>> >>> 1) The HB configurations these days seem to be the >>> broad band (max 2:1 SWR) design like the K4KIO and >>> I do prefer this design over the classic HB. >>> 2) Definitely get a choke balun ferrite kit for the coax >>> to reduce common mode sneak currents on the coax >>> shield's outer surface. >>> 3) Unless you plan to use 12M., you may want to not >>> wire this band in as it does somewhat impair the 10M. >>> performance due to the closeness of the bands. >>> >>> IMHO, >>> Gary K5AMH >>> >>> http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/multi_perform/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/18/2016 11:44, Rob McClure via BVARC wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Does anyone in the club have any of these hexbeams? >>> >>> If yes can you respond off list? I'd like to ask a few questions since >>> I'm ready to buy one. >>> >>> 73, Rob, KC5RET >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> BVARC mailing >>> listBVARC@bvarc.orghttp://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> BVARC mailing list >>> BVARC@bvarc.org >>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org >>> >>> >> ___ >> BVARC mailing list >> BVARC@bvarc.org >> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org >> >> > ___ > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > > ___ BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
Re: [BVARC] Radiowavz, K4KIO or NA4RR hexbeam
I included a link showing the 12/10 M. Interaction. Check it out. Gary Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On October 18, 2016 3:24:55 PM Rob McClure via BVARC wrote: Gary, I wasn't aware there was another design in use, other than the Spiderbeam. I like the hexagonal design as it seems to shed the wind better. I am more comfortable with buying one already built, but I will indeed be using a choke balun. I had never heard about the interference between 10 and 12... Do you know how much 10 is impaired? I may have something for you. Have you ever heard of Textenna Tex Hex hexbeam? I just found out about them today. Evidently they WERE sold by Texas Towers but I got an email today from a rep at TT that Textenna was selling direct. Here's the info if you don't want to wait for me: The man you need to talk to is Herb Welch. He can be reached at (214) 808-6624. Thanks for chiming in Gary, the more info I have the better decision I can make. I'll be pulling the trigger on this sometime in the next 4 weeks. Have you decided on what you're going to mount your hexbeam? Right now unless something easier comes along, I'm going to use a Spiderbeam 47' HD mast and put the rotator at the bottom and turn the entire thing. I may be moving in the next 3 to 5 years and I don't want to install anything I can easily take with me. 73, Rob, KC5RET On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Gary Sitton via BVARC wrote: Rob: I am about to pull the trigger on a hex beam myself. I think that the K4KIO kit is about the best from my brief research, but a couple of things: 1) The HB configurations these days seem to be the broad band (max 2:1 SWR) design like the K4KIO and I do prefer this design over the classic HB. 2) Definitely get a choke balun ferrite kit for the coax to reduce common mode sneak currents on the coax shield's outer surface. 3) Unless you plan to use 12M., you may want to not wire this band in as it does somewhat impair the 10M. performance due to the closeness of the bands. IMHO, Gary K5AMH http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/multi_perform/ On 10/18/2016 11:44, Rob McClure via BVARC wrote: Hello all, Does anyone in the club have any of these hexbeams? If yes can you respond off list? I'd like to ask a few questions since I'm ready to buy one. 73, Rob, KC5RET ___ BVARC mailing listBVARC@bvarc.orghttp://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org ___ BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org -- ___ BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org ___ BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
Re: [BVARC] Radiowavz, K4KIO or NA4RR hexbeam
Gary, I wasn't aware there was another design in use, other than the Spiderbeam. I like the hexagonal design as it seems to shed the wind better. I am more comfortable with buying one already built, but I will indeed be using a choke balun. I had never heard about the interference between 10 and 12... Do you know how much 10 is impaired? I may have something for you. Have you ever heard of Textenna Tex Hex hexbeam? I just found out about them today. Evidently they WERE sold by Texas Towers but I got an email today from a rep at TT that Textenna was selling direct. Here's the info if you don't want to wait for me: The man you need to talk to is Herb Welch. He can be reached at (214) 808-6624. Thanks for chiming in Gary, the more info I have the better decision I can make. I'll be pulling the trigger on this sometime in the next 4 weeks. Have you decided on what you're going to mount your hexbeam? Right now unless something easier comes along, I'm going to use a Spiderbeam 47' HD mast and put the rotator at the bottom and turn the entire thing. I may be moving in the next 3 to 5 years and I don't want to install anything I can easily take with me. 73, Rob, KC5RET On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Gary Sitton via BVARC wrote: > Rob: > >I am about to pull the trigger on a hex beam myself. I > think that the K4KIO kit is about the best from my brief > research, but a couple of things: > > 1) The HB configurations these days seem to be the > broad band (max 2:1 SWR) design like the K4KIO and > I do prefer this design over the classic HB. > 2) Definitely get a choke balun ferrite kit for the coax > to reduce common mode sneak currents on the coax > shield's outer surface. > 3) Unless you plan to use 12M., you may want to not > wire this band in as it does somewhat impair the 10M. > performance due to the closeness of the bands. > > IMHO, > Gary K5AMH > > http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/multi_perform/ > > > > On 10/18/2016 11:44, Rob McClure via BVARC wrote: > > Hello all, > > Does anyone in the club have any of these hexbeams? > > If yes can you respond off list? I'd like to ask a few questions since I'm > ready to buy one. > > 73, Rob, KC5RET > > > ___ > BVARC mailing > listBVARC@bvarc.orghttp://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > > > > ___ > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > > ___ BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
Re: [BVARC] Radiowavz, K4KIO or NA4RR hexbeam
Rob: I am about to pull the trigger on a hex beam myself. I think that the K4KIO kit is about the best from my brief research, but a couple of things: 1) The HB configurations these days seem to be the broad band (max 2:1 SWR) design like the K4KIO and I do prefer this design over the classic HB. 2) Definitely get a choke balun ferrite kit for the coax to reduce common mode sneak currents on the coax shield's outer surface. 3) Unless you plan to use 12M., you may want to not wire this band in as it does somewhat impair the 10M. performance due to the closeness of the bands. IMHO, Gary K5AMH http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/hexbeam/multi_perform/ On 10/18/2016 11:44, Rob McClure via BVARC wrote: Hello all, Does anyone in the club have any of these hexbeams? If yes can you respond off list? I'd like to ask a few questions since I'm ready to buy one. 73, Rob, KC5RET ___ BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org ___ BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org