Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

I think maybe if this were my home dance, and I'd discussed it with organizers beforehand, maybe. There's so many cans of worms that could spring open, and it's something organizers would be left dealing with. On Oct 10, 2015 7:31 PM, "James Saxe via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net>

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Thanks, Jim! This is a great idea, and I agree with you that interactions with one’s shadow might be used as a teachable moment. Your insight is appreciated. Linda On Oct 10, 2015, at 7:31 PM, James Saxe via Callers wrote: > Back in September, we discussed a

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Back in September, we discussed a topic raised by Maia McCormick: > ... > > There do exist some really fabulous shadow-swing dances that I would love to > be able to call, as long as I could do so without putting anyone in an > uncomfortable position. Do folks have ideas for ways to mitigate

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

i agree with Eric. The world, even the contra world, is not always a comfortable place. Within reason, we should be able to deal with it, especially on the dance floor. Woody -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Woody Lane Caller, Percussive Dancer Roseburg, Oregon

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

The substitution examples you gave are rarely critical to a dance's flow.   Swings are more likely to be.     If a dance written with a shadow swing flows well with something else, the the dance should always be called with the something else.    Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

You've never substituted a pass through dosido instead of a dosido pass through? Or a gypsy/allemande/dosido change if you had too many of one in a night? Is it that you think dances written are sacrosanct, or that the shadow swing is too key to a dance - and is different from more common moves

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Richard, My bad. That was suggested (by Luke D?), as a triplet-esque solution, whereby smaller sets, run shorter, limited the potential for problems. If the problem is dancers who are new, or easily confused, short sets can increase the confusion as you get turned around that much faster, with

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

You know, just a few minutes ago Alan posted a very reasonable call for civility on this list. He specifically mentioned not assuming "that your experiences trump their experiences." I've seen prominent callers call dances with shadow swings, and I've seen people enjoy them. Some callers may

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Eric:    Not all dancers enjoy dancing or skilled enough to dance both roles.   Dancers should not have to resort to such subterfuge to avoid unpleasantness perpetrated by an insensitive caller. Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway       Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Wednesday,

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

On 9/9/2015 2:13 PM, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote: Richard: Your suggestion is subterfuge to rationalize the caller's doing something (calling a shadow swing dance) that should never be done. Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844 Never, Michael? That

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Richard:   Your suggestion is subterfuge to rationalize the caller's doing something (calling a shadow swing dance) that should never be done. Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844 On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 3:45 PM, Richard Fischer via Callers

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

I like that. A related tactic is to swap roles with your partner (thereby swapping shadows). And you get to dance both roles, which makes you a better and more enjoyable dancer. -Eric On Sep 9, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Richard Fischer via Callers wrote: > Here's

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Here's a suggestion I don't think I've seen in this discussion. If you want to call a dance with a shadow swing, how about save it for time when you can have several shorter sets, and remind couples they can join other sets when they reach the top or the bottom, to get an opportunity to dance

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Interesting. I’ve received multiple direct emails from people saying variously that: - my comment was off-topic because Maia requested responses to be about whether to announce it or not and not about the merits or not of shadow swings - my comment misses the point because some people

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

I've had the experience where my shadow was a creeper. And another time they were an awful swing. They were both awful experiences. But Maia asked specifically this thread not be about the merits of shadow swings or not, but instead about disclaimers. On Sep 9, 2015 11:54 AM, "Martha Wild via

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Hear, hear, Eric! My sentiments exactly. And for a slightly different perspective: I danced a shadow dance at Glen Echo some years back, and after swinging my shadow a few times, we both suddenly realized we knew each other from way back (my how we change)! Every swing was an opportunity to

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

I'm with Eric on this one. Nicely stated. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Eric Black via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Wow. ISTM [It Seems To Me] that this is far more responsibility

Re: [Callers] Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

Wow. ISTM [It Seems To Me] that this is far more responsibility for controlling social interpersonal interactions than the programmer and/or caller at the mic should have to worry about, even though we do worry about such things. Sorry I don’t have opportunity to participate on this email