Re: [Callers] Tempos for Contras (was Re: Tempo for Squares)

[Rich Goss via Callers]

LiveBPM indeed does not do well with waltzes.   No problem with jigs or reels. 

Rich G

> I don't know whether anyone has done careful systematic testing of liveBPM's 
> accuracy on a varied range of contra dance music.  If anyone does, I'd be 
> interested in knowing the result.  I have, however, seen liveBPM be seriously 
> confused (if you'll pardon the anthropomorphism) about the tempos of waltzes, 
> where the beats come in multiples of three.  I wouldn't be surprised if it 
> could were sometimes similarly inaccurate about jigs, in which the beats 
> subdivide in thirds.  For example, perhaps it would sometimes report a tempo 
> of, say, 84 BPM for a jig whose real tempo is 84 * 4/3 = 112 BPM.
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Re: [Callers] Tempos for Contras (was Re: Tempo for Squares)

[Rich Goss via Callers]

There is a app for iphone or Android called liveBPM.   A lot of bands use it.   
 I usually have if going when we play.Very useful tool.We also use it 
in rehearsal to identify dips or spikes in the tempo over the course of a set.

We generally try to play between 110 and 120 depending on the set and how it 
matches up to the dance. Higher for squares, around 128.

As a caller I will sometimes ask for a tempo range that works well wih a 
particular dance.   

Most of you are probably familiar with liveBPM.   It’s been around a while.

Rich
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Re: [Callers] Using music in the pre-dance lesson

[Rich Goss via Callers]

I will often ask the fiddle player to come out on the floor and play for a 
short circle dance.   This is an opportunity to get them dancing right away, 
teaches connection (giving weight), phrasing (counting to 8), and swing basics. 

Sometimes the whole band wants to play. 

Rich

> On Sep 10, 2019, at 12:41 PM, jim saxe via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to hear from any of you who can share experience or advice about 
> making use of music during the introductory lesson (a/k/a "new dancers' 
> orientation", "beginners' workshop", etc.) that often precedes a regularly 
> scheduled contradance.
> 
> What source of music do you use? (Recorded music played on a device that you 
> control? Live music played by a musician assisting with the lesson? Music 
> that you yourself can play on some instrument while leading the session? Your 
> own singing of song lyrics, nonsense syllables like "la la la", or dance 
> calls? Music that may happen to be coming from the evening's band doing their 
> sound check at the other end of the hall?  ..)  How--in as much detail as you 
> care to supply--do you use that music in your teaching? What do you 
> think/hope your use of music contributes to the effectiveness or fun of the 
> lesson?
> 
> I tossed out a few ideas on this topic, with much uncertainty about which 
> ones were any good, in a message I sent on September 2 in the "Brain Dead - 
> Need Suggestions" thread.  I'm re-raising the topic here under a more 
> descriptive Subject line in hope of getting responses from people who can 
> offer comments based on actual experience.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --Jim
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Re: [Callers] Contra Corners Dance

[Rich Goss via Callers]

If you can get by calling a triplet, Linda Leslie’s Corner Triplet is an easy 
CC dance.  
Rich

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:31 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Friends,
> I have been asked to call a contra dance with contra corners in it.  Can 
> anyone suggest an interesting dance that is relatively easy forr a dance 
> floor with many newbies?
> Thanks for any ideas,
> Rich
> Stafford, CT
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Re: [Callers] new dance

[Rich Goss via Callers]

Called Chuck’s dance tomight in Portland (OR) with Chuck playing in the band.   
Nicely received by the dancers.   Great dance.  

> On Jul 6, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Charles Abell via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Charles Abell has shared a OneDrive file with you. To view it, click the link 
> below. 
>  
> Poussetranella 2.MOV
> Here's a new dance I wrote and premiered at our local dance a few weeks ago, 
> to very positive reviews. I'm proud of the dance overall, but particularly 
> with title. If anyone is aware of another dance using this title, please 
> indicate that. It's worth noting that partner contact is a bit limited in 
> this dance, but it feels like a worthwhile trade off given the nice flow of 
> the dance and the long partner swing at the end. 
> 
> Feedback welcome. (Video attached)
> 
> Poussetranella (Becket)C. 
> Abell 6/19
> 
> A1  Ring bal, Petronella 1x (8)
> Ring bal, Petronella (take hands with N) (8)*
> A2  Half poussette, gents go backwards first (4)
> Ladies continue backwards to other side, gents pass right sh (4)**
> N swing (8)
> B1   Circle left 3/4x, slide left (ladies lead) (8)
> (new) Gents dosido 1x (8)
> B2   P bal and swing (16)
> w/ same N…
> 
> * I suggest the dancers skip the clap on the second Petronella
> ** Gents pass right sh in the middle - nice flow into the swing
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[Callers] Fwd: Caller Enquiry

[Rich Goss via Callers]

I got this inquiry.Anyone interested contact Pamela directly.

Rich

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Pamela Thomas 
> Date: April 10, 2019 at 10:15:51 PM EDT
> To: r...@richgoss.com
> Subject: Caller Enquiry
> 
> Hi Rich, I am looking for a caller for a square dance on Saturday, June 15. 
> The dance is a community celebration and will likely be held in Red Hook, 
> Brooklyn. 
> 
> Might I enquire as to whether you are available and or interested in calling 
> the dance? Appreciate your consideration to do so!
> 
> Kind wishes,
> 
> Pamela Thomas
> Brooklyn
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[Callers] New Dance to Share

[Rich Goss via Callers]

Thought I'd share this with the group.  I wrote this last April while touring 
with Tempest in the East.   

Back story.   We stayed with Laura Light in Asheville, NC.   The neighborhood 
were she lives has a resident who has a botanical garden.  Only the folks in 
the neighborhood are allowed in.  She gave us a tour.  

Laura’s Secret Garden – Rich Goss Improper

(Start take inside hands with Neighbor)

A1:  (with inside hands) Neighbor Balance, Star Thru, Gents alle left 1 1/2

A2:  Partner Bal and Swing

B1:  (Form ring) Ring Bal, twirl to right, Neighbor swing

B2:  Pass Thru (no hands, face out, NO CT),
Roll away to LL (gents roll ladies r/l, keep facing out) LLFB away (turn to 
face new neighbor, keep inside hands) 



Sent from my iPhone

Re: [Callers] A Lot of "Don't Know" dances--Most Now Have Names

[Rich Goss via Callers]

Ben's Spinnoff #3 is not becket

Rich

> On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Erik Hoffman via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> Thanks to all who’ve supplied names! Below are the names of most of my “Don’t 
> Know” dances. A few, reposted at the bottom of this email, are still 
> mysteries.
>  
> ~Erik Hoffman
> Oakland, CA
>  
> My Right Hand Man
> Becket
> Roger Auman
> A1Wmn Allemande Rt 1½; Half Hey (Nb st Lft sh)
> A2  NbrB
> B1  on Lft Diag: Women Chain—to Shdw;
> (w/ Shdw) Across: Right & Left Thru
> B2  LLF Partner Swing
>  
>  
> a slight variation of: A Precarious Balance
> Improper
> Becky Hill—original has A1 as Nbr B
> A1  DSD Nbr;  Sw Nbr
> A1  R Thru Acrss; Star Lft ¾,
> end in a wave on the Wm’s side Pt in left, Shdw in Rt
> B1  BAL the wave, Al Rt Shdw; Sw Pt
> B2  Circle Lft 1¼; CA twirl Pt
>  
> Early Morning Swim—w/ clarification from Kathy
> Improper
> Kathy Anderson
> A1  Ones split the Twos: Mirror DSD to Circle; 
> BAL the Ring, Pt Rollaway with a Half Sashay Acrss
> A2  DSD Nbr to a Wave, Mn in Center;
> Rory O’More BAL (to put Wm in center)
> B1  Wm Al Lft 1½;  Sw Pt
> B2  Prom Pt;  Circle Lft ¾, Twos Arch, Pop the Ones through
>  
> Greenfield Petronella
> Improper
> Chris Ricciotti
> A1  Ptnella BAL Twice
> A2  BAL the Ring, CA Twril Pt;  Sw Nbr
> B1  Mn Al Lft 1½;  Sw Pt
> B2  Wm Chain;  Half Hey, Wm start, Rt shoulder
> From a green piece of paper, the 2000 Echo Summit dance schedule.  I should 
> email Susan Kevra (the other caller) and see if she knows about this dance.
>  
>  
> Rollin’ and Tumblin’
> Improper
> Cis Hinkle
> A1  BAL & Sw Nbr
> A2  LLF w/ Wm Roll Away with Half Sashay (left);
> LLF w/ Mn Roll Away with a Half Sashay (Rt, same Nbr)
> B1  Wm Al Rt 1½;  Sw Pt
> B2  Wm Chain;  Star Left
>  
> Fun Dance for Majoirie
> Becket
> Dean Alemain
> A1  Crcl Lft ¾;  Nb Sw
> A2  LLF Mn Al Lft 1½
> B1  Pt BAL & Sw
> B2  Mn Cross (4), Wm Cross (4); Hands Across Rt Star
> Single File lead to next couple (Mn in lead)
>  
> California Twirlin’
> Imp
> Janet Levatin
> A1  Bal Ring, w/ Pt, CA Twirl, turn alone to face in
> Bal Ring, w/ Nb, CA Twirl, (I think:) turn alone to face in
> A2  Bal Ring, w/ Pt, Ca Twirl to face new Nb;  that New Nb Sw
> B1  Circle Lft ¾;  Pt Sw
> B2  Wm Chain;  LLF w/ Rollaway
> (or, I think, LLF Wm Chain /w Rollaway)
>  
> Backstitch
> Improper
> Al Olson
> A1  (Remember this Nbr) LLF  BAL Towards Nbr One, Back, Roll Away with 
> Half Sashay
> A2  (still in lines) BALt  towards Nbr Two, Away, Sw Nbr Two
> B1  Mn Al Lft 1½;  Sw Pt
> B2  (with Nbr Two) Star Lft ¾;  Sw Nbr One
> From Kathy Anderson at the Brattleboro Dawn Dance, May 29, 2000
>  
> Rollin’ to the Grey Eagle
> Improper
> Hank Morris
> A1LLF w/ Rollaway; Women Chain
> A2Hey (Wm st Rt sh)
> B1Partner B
> B2Circle Left ¾; Neighbor Swing
>  
> Baridhara
> Improper
> Chris Weiler
> A1Star Right; Neighbor Gypsy
> A2Circle Single File Left Half (still looking at Neighbor Women lead) (4)
>  Neighbor Gypsy (some more) (4);
>  Neighbor Swing
> B1Give & Take: Women pull Partner back
> B2Women Chain; Star Left
>  
> Roll 12.5
> Improper
> Chris Page
> A1 Nbr DSD; Nbr Swing
> A2 LLF  Wm chain (to Pt)—end in Ring
> B1 Ring Balance, Roll Nbr; Pt Swing 
> B2 Circle Lft ¾;  Ring Balance, CA Twirl 
>  
> Quicksilver Reel
> Becket
> Mike Richardson
> A1  Long Lines Forwad & Back;  Circle Left, Slide Lft (R T; Circle 
> Slide, or LLF, Circle ½, Slide)
> A2  Hey, Wm start, Rt shoulder
> B1  Wm Al Rt ¾ to long wave in center (4), BAL;  Wm back out WHILE Mn Al 
> Rt with Man to Rt ¾ to long wave, BAL
> B2  Mn step forward to Pt: Sw Pt
>  
> Ben’s Spinoff #3
> Becket
> A1Nbr Allemande Rt, Wmn Lft Pull By, Pt Allemande Rt, Wmn Lft Pull By
> A2Neighbor B
> B1Circle Left ¾; Partner Swing
> B2LLF Women Chain
> At least it was on a blue piece of paper that also had Hey for 40, as 
> called by S.K.
>  
> Don’t Know #1
> Improper
> Don’t Know
> A1  with Nbr, BAL, Bx Gnat;  Star Rt
> A2  Circle Lft ¾;  Sw Pt
> B1  Mn Pull By with the Left, Bx Gnat with Nbr;
> Half Hey, Nbr start Rt Shoulder
> B2  BAL & Sw Nbr
>  
> Don’t Know #2
> Improper
> Don’t Know
> A1  BAL with Nbr, Gypsy (Rt shoulder);
> Half Hey, Wm start Lft Shoulder
> A2  BAL & Sw Nbr (opposite side)
> B1  Wm Gypsy 1½;  Sw Pt
> B2  LLF  Mn Gypsy 1½ to progress
>  
> Don’t Know #3
> Improper
> Don’t Know
> A1  Nbr BAL & Sw end in Circle
> A2  BAL Ring, Pet Tw to wave: Pt in Rt, Wm in Cntr
> Rory O’More BAL,
> B1  Mn Al Lft once, Pt Sw
> B2  Circle Lft ¾; Nbr Al Lft 1½
> On an envelope
>  
>  
> Don’t Know Yet From Andy Wilson—June 1, 
> Imp
> A1  “Hey” along lines: Pass 

Re: [Callers] Calling to a square dance crowd

[Rich Goss via Callers]

Hi Joseph,

Several years ago there was a national MWSD convention here in Portland.   They 
hired a local contra dance band, rented an hall, and put on a contra dance for 
the attendees.   The band invited dancers from the local contra dance 
community.   Their callers did the contra calling.   Aside from not really 
being on the phrase sometimes, they did a find job.   I think they are more 
familiar with contra than you might think.   They referred to contra dances as 
‘energizer’ dances.  Will they let you invite any dancers from the local contra 
community?

Also, I would strongly suggest that you post this question to 
trad-dance-call...@yahoogroups.com.   That list has a good mix of MWSD and 
contra callers, so you’ll get some inside advice there. 

It sure sounds like to me that they liked their experience at your local dance, 
and want to recreate that for their dance community.   If it’s to be a monthly 
series, then it will evolve.

My two cents, Rich


> On Feb 20, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I've been pretty low-key on calling for several years now, just a few local 
> dances a year. Years ago I did close to one gig a month at home and around my 
> local region, but cut back due to busy life. Now I've accepted an invitation 
> for a regular gig that's going to be a bit different, so I'm back on this 
> email list, and I seek your advice.
> 
> A few people from the nearby Western Square Dance group came to one of our 
> local contra dances where I was calling, and had such a fun time they have 
> invited me, and the band from that evening, to come and do a monthly series 
> in their hall, promoted and sponsored by them. The band and I decided we'd 
> give it a shot.
> 
> I've had barely any exposure to Western Square Dance, but I know their 
> education system is formalized, calling is improvised, and the music is 
> mostly recorded; whereas in contra dancing the education is more by 
> assimilation, the calling is mostly fixed within a given dance, and the music 
> is live and improvised. I anticipate we may feel like strange cousins to each 
> other. Do any of you have any experiences or thoughts about crossing over 
> into this parallel universe of traditional dancers? I'm particularly 
> concerned about how I can best help them feel comfortable with the way Contra 
> Dance is done, and how I can be a gracious presence in their space.
> 
> Bonus question: they want to know how to split the gate, since they don't 
> have experience paying bands. Your thoughts?
> 
> Best regards,
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Re: [Callers] Contras with a Hey

[Rich Goss via Callers]

Dancing Bear by Becky Hill is a good one.   Easy to teach and a little 
different.   She used to teach it with a little hop after the a1 alle right 1/2.

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Sandy Knudson via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like First Hey by Paul Balliet
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Give the Scout a Hand, Bob Isaacs
>> 
>> I'll second:
>> Butter
>> Carousel
>> Hey the the Barn
>> Roll in the Hey
>>> On Dec 8, 2015 2:10 PM, "David A Kaynor via Callers" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> 
>>> A longtime lurker leaps in:
>>> 
>>> Below:  Two fairly easy Becket formation dances which present a full hay 
>>> for four following a full ladies’ chain … a useful sequence from a 
>>> pedagogical standpoint, in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> First, Peter Stix’s “Purple Hays” (Becket formation)
>>> 
>>> A1:  Ladies chain (over and back)
>>> 
>>> A2:  Hay for four (over and back)
>>> 
>>> B1:  Ladies 1/2 [your politically/socially acceptable term for “gypsy”];
>>> swing partner
>>> 
>>> B2:  1/2 right and left; circle left 1/2 to original Becket home; with 
>>> partner, slide left.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here are Peter’s A parts followed by different B parts (Lindsey Dono told 
>>> me that a dancer suggested this dance be called “Busy Bees”)
>>> 
>>> A1:  Ladies chain (over and back)
>>> 
>>> A2:  Hay for four (over and back)
>>> 
>>> B1:  with Partner, balance and swing
>>> 
>>> B2:  long lines forward & back; circle left (all the way around); with 
>>> partner, shift left to new neighbors.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Note:  On paper, there isn’t sufficient time for all of B2.  However, in 
>>> actual practice, the transition from the circle and shift to the ladies’ 
>>> chain is forgiving enough for things to flow well.
>>> 
>>> I believe my B parts to be a little easier for bringing newcomers along.  
>>> To my knowledge, no contra prior to “Purple Hays” used this sequence of A 
>>> parts.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:50 PM, susanelberger via Callers 
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Washington Hay by Ralph Sweet is my go-to dance for teaching a hay to 
>>> > relatively new dancers.
>>> >
>>> > Susan Elberger
>>> >
>>> > From: Rich Sbardella via Callers 
>>> > To: Caller's discussion list ; 
>>> > trad-dance-call...@yahoogroups.com
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:48 PM
>>> > Subject: [Callers] Contras with a Hey
>>> >
>>> > Hello Folks,
>>> >
>>> > I am relatively new at calling contras and I am looking for some asy to 
>>> > intermediate contras to introduce the hey to a group that includes many 
>>> > beginners. and/or club square dancers.
>>> >
>>> > "Butter" by Gene Hubert is my go to dance, but I am looking for a few 
>>> > more.  I like Butter because the flow from ladies chain into a RH hey is 
>>> > great, and because all the other calls are introduced earlier in most 
>>> > evening.
>>> >
>>> > I love simple, but different choreography, so I am open to most 
>>> > suggestions.
>>> >
>>> > Rich Sbardella
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Re: [Callers] Query - Tablet size thoughts

[Rich Goss via Callers]

I like my iPad mini.   Just the right size for me.


> On Aug 31, 2015, at 11:24 PM, JD Erskine iDance via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hullo folks,
> 
> Of those using, or considering using, a tablet computer for dance directions 
> ("cards") and programs, what size do you use or contemplate using?
> 
> I have a crappy 7" one that I haven't truly used for this and would think I'd 
> like something a tad larger (8, 8.4, 8.0/9, likely not a 10") that I might 
> see most/all of the directions at a type size I don't need reading glasses 
> for.
> 
> I've seen small brackets for the top of music or mic stands, or to add to the 
> side of one. Any thoughts on those?
> 
> I'll share a summary, of sorts, some time, between the lists if I have energy.
> 
> Cheers, John
> -- 
> J.D. Erskine
> Victoria, BC
> 
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Re: [Callers] ID This Dance?

[Rich Goss]

Found this one in my collection.Good dance. 
Roll In To The Grey Eagle - Hank Morris

A1:  LLFB, ladies roll gents (R/L on the way back)

Ladies Chain

A2:  Hey for four

B1:  Partner balance and swing

B2:  Circle left 3/4, Neighbor swing 


> On Apr 12, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Jerome Grisanti  
> wrote:
> 
> I recently thought of a dance that I presume has been written already, as
> it is all glossary moves. Can anyone identify it?
> 
> Improper Contra
> 
> A1: Long Lines Forward, Roll Away* on way back, Ladies Chain
> (* Men roll from right to left, Women half-sashey from left to right)
> 
> A2: Ladies start Hey for Four
> 
> B1: Partner Balance & Swing
> 
> B2: Circle Left 3/4, Neighbor Swing
> 
> In long lines, identify new neighbor with a gentle squeeze.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --Jerome
> 
> -- 
> Jerome Grisanti
> 660-528-0858
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> 
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Re: [Callers] Good ending dances

[Rich Goss]

I'll frequently call a two or three dance medley as the last dance, all easy, 
with the same caveats mentioned by Bree.

I have this book called "F in Exams".It has totally wrong and hilarious 
answers to exam questions.  I could imagine an answer to this question:

"The best dance for a last dance is the one that comes at the end."

Rich

Re: [Callers] Calling weddings and private parties

[Rich Goss]

Not sure if anyone mentioned the New England Dancing Masters.   Great resource, 
especially for worki g with Children. 

http://www.dancingmasters.com

Rich

> On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:05 AM, "Harold E. Watson"  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone for all the great recommendations and ideas.   Sure enough, 
> at our last contra, I was asked to do a wedding reception they described as 
> having "lots of little kids".  Looks like I may get to put some of these to 
> the test.
> 
> Harold
> 

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Rich Goss]

Completely agree.   I certainly appreciate the way the mods on sharedweight 
manage this list.   Thanks for setting it up.   

> On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Robert Livingston  wrote:
> 
> As it is,is great

Re: [Callers] Tablet size?

[Rich Goss]

Most certainly carry cards as well.   But there are now several dances for 
which I do not have physical cards. 

> On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Kalia Kliban  wrote:
> 
> Have any of you who use tablets for calling ever had problems with them in 
> the middle of a gig?  Do you carry cards as back-ups?
> 
> My biggest hesitation about using one is the horrible scenario of being at 
> the gig and having the widget freeze up or go blank.
> 
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Re: [Callers] Tablet size?

[Rich Goss]

I previously used a full size iPad.   I got an iPad mini and love it for 
calling.   The best part is that it fits perfectly on the clip-on card holder I 
used for physical cards and the magnetic cover locks it in place.   

> On Oct 8, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> 
> Those of you using a tablet for calling, what size do you have?  Do you
> wish you had a larger/smaller tablet?  (I'm currently leaning toward 7-8"
> but am happy to get swayed by majority opinion -- particularly with
> reasons. ;-)
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Re: [Callers] dances with down-the-halls

[Rich Goss]

You could include Alberta Street.  Has an unusual way to reverse the line of 
four.

Alberta Street Contra – Rich Goss   
Improper
Easy, down hall
 
A1:   (new) Neighbor Balance and Swing
 
A2:   Down hall 4-in-line, *Dixie Twirl
 Return, Bend the line
 
B1:   Circle left 3/4, Partner Swing
 
B2:   R/L Thru across (or Prom), Ladies chain
 
*Middles arch.  Keep hands joined, right hand dancer (#1 lady) leads through 
arch 
while the left hand dancer (#1 Gent) leads across set to face up.  
At the end of the move, the line is still in the same order, just facing up.

Re: [Callers] Seen This One Before?

[Rich Goss]

So you have a beginner crowd at a festival?   Since when does the band get to 
dictate what you call?   Just sayin'

Rich

On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Eric Black  wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> I've danced pretty much this sequence as a Becket starting at B2.  Can't
> remember who or where.  I remember it because it not only was a "barely
> Becket" but you immediately progressed away from your neighbor couple.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Faced with a largely beginner audience at a recent festival, I came up with 
>> the following when the band wanted high-energy Petronellas in the A's.  I 
>> suspect it isn't new, but have been unable to find it in the usual sources.  
>> Thanks in advance for whoever has the author/title; otherwise I'll have to 
>> come up with one -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Improper
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A1.  Balance, Petronella, balance, Petronella
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A2.  N1 balance, swing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> B1.  Gents allemande L 1 1/2, partner swing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> B2.  Circle L 3/4 and pass through, N2 dosido and form ring
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, I know - I need to write a new Petronella dance like I need a hole in 
>> my head.  Some things just can't be helped -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bob
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Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s

[Rich Goss]

Love the dance, but I can't stand coconut, in pie or anything else.

On Jul 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Joyce Miller  wrote:

> I love this dance for a crowd with lots of beginners. It's sure fire and 
> pretty much fail proof! And fun!
> 
> On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:43 PM, lynn ackerson  wrote:
> 
>> Here's the dance Coconut Cream Pie
>> 
>> A1: Lines F
>>   Center 4 (center two in each line) Right hand star 1x
>> A2: Partner allemande L 1.5
>>   Other 4 R hand star 1x
>> B1: Partner B
>> B2: All 8 Circle L 3/4
>>   Balance ring
>>   w/partner, CA twirl
>> 
>> It is a simplified version of Apple PIe Quadrille by Ron Beeson which can be 
>> seen at http://www.library.unh.edu/special/forms/rpdlw/syllabus2008.pdf
>> Coconut Cream Pie is the same as Apple Pie Quadrille in the A1-B1. Apple Pie 
>> quadrille is a 5-part dance, and I found the progression tricky when there 
>> were new dancers in the hall. Also, not all bands have a 5-part tune. So 
>> far, I've never seen Coconut Cream Pie fall apart, even with a large 
>> percentage of new dancers. You can have 5 or 6 or 3 people in the stars, and 
>> as long as they get  back to where they started, it's OK.
>> --- On Sat, 7/6/13, Dorcas Hand  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: Dorcas Hand 
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
>> To: "Tina Fields" , "Caller's discussion list" 
>> 
>> Date: Saturday, July 6, 2013, 1:06 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Could you post the calls? Sounds great!
>> Dorcas Hand
>> Houston
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: callers-boun...@sharedweight.net 
>> [mailto:callers-boun...@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Tina Fields
>> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:49 PM
>> To: call...@sharedweight.net
>> Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Pie: easy 4-facing-4s
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I had the pleasure of calling Lynn Ackerson's 4x4 "Coconut Cream Pie" for 
>> the first time last night. It was, forgive me, easy as pie for everyone to 
>> get - which I suppose was her reason for writing it as it's a simplified 
>> version of Apple Pie Quadrille. (It was also perfect for an American 4th of 
>> July weekend dance, featuring both stars and stripes [long lines]. Ha.)
>> 
>> 
>> Do you have other favorite, not too difficult, 4-facing-4 dances you're 
>> willing to share? 
>> 
>> 
>> Tina
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Re: [Callers] Arms Folded in Dosidos

[Rich Goss]

I think a bit of context is in order.   This topic was originally started in a 
thread about teaching young children at school.   In this context I agree with 
Dan Pearl's post about not correcting it.

My 2 cents.

Rich Goss

At our weekly contra I would discourage it in a tactful way.

On May 20, 2013, at 2:00 AM, "John Sweeney" <i...@contrafusion.co.uk> wrote:

> Arms folded in dosidos?  I DO "correct" it for three reasons:
> 
> 1) If you implicitly condone it by saying nothing, then others will copy
> it and it will spread even more.
> 
> 2) If these people then ever go to a contra dance they are going to look
> decidedly uncool, perhaps to their embarrassment.
> 
> 3) If they ever want to add spins to their dosidos, then it is MUCH
> easier without arms folded - your arms help you balance and can aid your
> spinning.

Re: [Callers] Teaching in Classroom

[Rich Goss]

New England Dancing Masters has some great resources for teaching children.  I 
called a dance at a local elementary once and used some of their material.

 http://www.dancingmasters.com/

Rich

As far as that arms folded dosido.   I usually say "that's from the musical 
Oklahoma, and we're not IN Oklahoma". Gets a laugh and nips that one in the 
bud.  No offense to my Okie friends.

On May 18, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Sue Robishaw  wrote:

> Hi,
>I've been asked to teach some dances in a local elementary school. It 
> would be grade by grade. Any suggestions/advice? I've called Family Dances 
> but not schools and am a bit hesitant. I'll have a fiddler for music.
>Thanks for any help!
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Re: [Callers] Fruit Punch choreography

[Rich Goss]

I came across this old thread.  I'm unclear on the exact name (is it Punch or 
Bunch?) and the author (is it Diane Silver?)

Cool dance!

Thanks, Rich


On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:54 AM, Bree Kalb  wrote:

> Joy, I got Fruit Bunch from Diane a couple of years ago.  Yes, it is a 
> Becket.  The A part is correct. Here's the B:
> 
> B1 Take hands in a ring
> Balance the ring; pass thru to a wave*,
> Balance the wave
>Neighbor allmd Rt 1/2; Men pull by the Left to Partner
> B2 Partner Bal and Swg
> 
> *still with same Neighbors, women in the center; neighbor on your right
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Joy Greenwolfe
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
> To: Caller's discussion list
> Subject: [Callers] Fruit Punch choreography
> 
> Fruit Punch  by Diane or?
> I have Improper written down, but it looks like a Becket.
> 
> A1 With couple on L diagonal, Yearn to new Neighbors and fall straight
> back (8)
> Ladies Allem R 1+1/2 (8)
> 
> A2 N Balance & Swing (16)
> 

Re: [Callers] Suggestions for particularly flirty contra dances?

[Rich Goss]

Okay, seems like a good time to share a new dance.  I've been calling this one 
for about a year now.  The A1 circle left is without hands.  The transition 
from the LHS to the single file prom 3/4 is fun to dance.This seems to work 
best with "slinky" tunes.

Baby Evelyn’s Reel – Rich Goss.Improper

A1:  *Single file, circle left 3/4, Partner Gypsy (id shadow)

A2:  Shadow Gypsy (Lt sh) 1x Partner Swing

B1:  Gents Alle Left 1 1/2, Neighbor Swing

B2:  LLFB, Left Hand Star

*If the gents turn around and make eye contact with their partner this can be a 
“Gypsy Circle” 

Re: [Callers] What to ask a band before the gig?

[Rich Goss]

I like to find out the variety of styles a band plays.  Are they strictly 
old-time?  Do they play jigs?  If I have a smoothish dance planned, do they 
play smooth minor jigs?  Do they play bouncy dorky jigs?  If they are a 
northern style band, can they play southern tunes?   I like to provide a 
program ahead of the dance with a recommended type/feel for each set.  I rarely 
strictly follow the program but I do like to stick to the type/feel flow.

At the dance if they want to see the card that's fine, but I'm very specific on 
the type of tune set I would like.


>> 
>>> From: contra...@gmail.com
>>> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:58:42 -0500
>>> To: call...@sharedweight.net
>>> Subject: [Callers]  What to ask a band before the gig?
>>> 
>>> Hi Shared Weight,
>>> 
>>> I have a few gigs coming up in a short span of time, and I try and touch
>>> base with the band at least a week out, if possible. I open the door for
>>> them to ask any questions for me, or to make any suggestions for a caller
>>> to make things easier / more fun for them to play their music.
>>> 
>>> I also ask a few questions. I try and keep it to a minimum, so I don't
>> come
>>> off too demanding.
>>> 
>>> What sorts of questions do you ask bands prior to the dance, especially
>> by
>>> e-mail / phone?
>>> 
>>> A couple I like are:
>>> - Do they have particular music sets they like to play at certain times,
>>> like, to end the night, etc?
>>> - Especially if I haven't heard them before in person, what overall types
>>> of music do they enjoy playing the most?
>>> 
>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Ron T Blechner
>>> contradances.tumblr.com/ron

Re: [Callers] Satisfying Sicilians

[Rich Goss]

Virtually any contra dance can be done as a Sicillian circle.  Probably would 
work best with an improper non-becket dance. 

Rich

On Jan 2, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Kalia Kliban  wrote:

> I'm looking for recommendations of Sicilian circle dances that scratch the 
> contra itch, that is to say, dances that are pleasing to dance in the same 
> way that contras are.  Joseph Pimentel's "Little Green Heron" falls into that 
> category for me.  What Sicilians have you danced that had that contra feel?
> 
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Re: [Callers] How to call a Petronella Turn?

[Rich Goss]

I never use the term Petronella for that move.  It's always "spin to the right" 
or twirl to the right" For me. Petronella is the name of a Chestnut that the 
move comes from as most all of you know.   Callers used to say "as in the dance 
Peronella..." but through the evolutionary process is no longer mentioned.  The 
move has taken on the name of the dance.   That said, if's my personal 
preference not to use that name for the move.  It does bug me a little when 
other callers use it as the name for the move, but not enough to say anything 
or lose any sleep over it. 

Rich

> 
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Maia McCormick  wrote:
> 
>> So I had my first introduction to contradance through my school, taught by
>> student callers who had been taught by student callers before them, etc. I
>> was first taught to call a Petronella as... a Petronella. And then as I
>> started going to more outside dances and started reading up on the practice
>> of calling, I heard the move more and more just called as "balance the ring
>> and spin to the right" or "balance the ring and spin to swap."
>> 
>> So, esteemed caller-folk, I ask you: how do* you* call a Petronella Turn?
>> By name, or with some other turn of phrase? Do you have any sense how
>> widespread either of these conventions are? Why not just call a Petronella
>> a Petronella? If you call it by description rather than by name, do you
>> generally put the entire call together (e.g. "BALance the RING and SPIN to
>> the RIGHT") or break it up ("BALance the RING... and SPIN to the RIGHT" so
>> that "spin to the right" ends up coming on beats 3 & 4, just before the
>> actual spinning occurs)? Any thoughts are welcome!
>> 
>> Cheers,
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Re: [Callers] Storage solutions for dance cards

[Rich Goss]

My wife likes GigBook to manage her music PDFs.  Haven't tried it yet for dance 
cards.   I think it's similar to ForScore.  My dance cards are in an almost 700 
page pdf.  I would need to break it up.  Meanwhile I'm finding that I have a 
nice collection of individual programs that work together.   I sssemble them in 
Word, convert to PDF and upload them to the iPad.   

Thanks for the tip!

Rich

On Oct 15, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Lisa Sieverts <l...@lisasieverts.com> wrote:

> Rich,
> 
> Take a look at ForScore for iPad. It's an app designed for musicians to
> manage PDF scores, but I find that it's great for managing my PDFed dances.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Rich Goss <richg...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> I do keep my dance files in my computer, where I enter new dances that I
>> pick up.  I also have a website and routinely upload my dance files to that
>> space.  I keep them as pdfs and use iBooks on my iPad.
>> 
>> --
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Re: [Callers] Storage solutions for dance cards

[Rich Goss]

I do keep my dance files in my computer, where I enter new dances that I pick 
up.  I also have a website and routinely upload my dance files to that space.  
I keep them as pdfs and use iBooks on my iPad.

On Oct 14, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Maia McCormick  wrote:

> A tangentially related question: how do you folks back up your dance
> collections, if at all? I'm in the uncomfortable situation of having lost
> my dance deck, and am sort of up a creek now. I mean, I had many of the
> dances saved on my computer, and can re-make a deck from that, but I
> accumulate new dances pretty regularly, and don't want to have to write up
> 50 new index cards twice a year. How do you all deal with the very real
> risk of losing a stack of index cards?
> 
> -Maia
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Susan Moffett wrote:
> 
>> I use caller's companion which is software available from Will Loving. All
>> my dances are recorded on my iPad And I call from that. it's very handy amd
>> streamlined. I recommend both the program and the iPad if your finances
>> allow.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:18 AM, James Saxe  wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's a case designed to hold up to about twelve hundred 4" x 6"
>>> photos or index cards:
>> http://www.containerstore.com/shop/collections/photoStorage?productId=10025078
>>> 
>>> For the benefit of anyone reading this message in the archive
>>> after the link goes stale, here's the description:
>>> 
>>>   12-Case Photo Storage Carrier
>>> 
>>>   Organize your 4" x 6" photos or recipe cards with our 12-Case
>>>   Photo Storage Carrier. It includes twelve inner cases that are
>>>   easily transportable, fitting easily inside a purse or briefcase.
>>>   Each acid-free inner case can accommodate approximately 100
>>>   photos and has a hinged lid that can be labeled by category or
>>>   event for easy identification.
>>> 
>>>   * Made of clear polypropylene plastic
>>>   * Outer case is stackable
>>>   * Additional individual inner cases are available (sold
>>> separately, listed below)
>>> 
>>> There's a photo of the case and thumbnails of some alternative
>>> views.  The alternative views also show a smaller version that
>>> holds just six inner cases and has no handle.
>>> 
>>> Alas, my modest attempts at searching just now haven't turned up
>>> something similar designed for 3" x 5" cards or photos.
>>> 
>>> --Jim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 4:56 PM, tavi merrill wrote:
>>> 
 Hi neighbors, partners, and peers,
 
 On a quest to deepen my bench of dances, my collection has much outgrown
 the handy little recipe box i store them in. Shopping around i find that
 the majority of boxes for 3x5 cards only hold 250-350. I'm wondering
>> what
 sorts of nifty 3x5 storage solutions - durable, portable, and at least a
 little bit classy - other callers have come up with... and where you
>> might
 have found 'em.
 
 thanks for sharing the weight!
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Re: [Callers] mixers for regular dancers not ons

[Rich Goss]

One of my favorite circle mixers is Circle of Friends by Steve Zakon-Anderson. 
Easy to trach and dance, but fun. 

On Aug 30, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Laur  wrote:

> I am looking for a mixer, probably a circle mixer, that is fun and 
> interesting for regular contra dancers, not new dancers, and not for a 
> festival or a ONS. 

Re: [Callers] Duties of the Caller Role

[Rich Goss]

I once had a band tell me they could play anything I wanted, as long as it was 
a Hoedown.


On May 21, 2012, at 6:53 AM, barb kirchner wrote:

> 
> yes, those are all responsibilities of the caller - but those are the 
> technical responsibilities.
> 
> i think the most important role is that of party host/hostess.
> 
> i can't force anyone to have a good time, but i can set things up so they can 
> if they want.
> 
> dancers will come back if they have a good time.  make it a party!
> 
> barb
> 
> ps - there is nothing related to "matching tunes with music" in some parts of 
> the country.  just try to tell an old-timey band from illinois or missouri 
> what dance you're calling or what to play!!   they don't care what dance it 
> is and they've already decided what to play :-)  
> 
> 
> 
>> From: sharedweight_...@veino.com
>> Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 00:09:00 -0400
>> To: call...@sharedweight.net
>> Subject: [Callers] Duties of the Caller Role
>> 
>> Callers fill one of many roles required for conducting a successful contra
>> dance and building a dance community (along with dance organizers,
>> musicians, dancers, etc.) and therefore have their own unique set of
>> responsibilities to fill that role.
>> 
>> If you accept this view, what would the unique duties/responsibilities of a
>> caller be?
>> 
>> Some possible caller responsibilities:
>> 
>> - Responsible for preparing and selecting dances to match the dancers
>> and enhance their enjoyment of the event
>> - Responsible for coordinating with the musicians to match tunes and
>> dance selections
>> - Responsible for managing the dance program timing to meet organizers'
>> schedule
>> - ?
>> 
>> What do you think?
>> 
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Re: [Callers] mentorship

[Rich Goss]

I may have missed it, but I haven't seen William Watson's excellent collection 
of caller resources.

http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/

Rich

Re: [Callers] mentorship

[Rich Goss]

Sounds like a great project.  I'm currently working to encourage local callers, 
suppose you could call it mentoring.  A couple of them quite actively.  Also 
have mentored to some degree long-distance.  The long distance bit mainly is 
providing resources and being available to discuss upcoming gigs and what they 
might expect.  I also help them to get gigs through my contacts.  I think a 
long distance mentor should be willing to make themselves available for 
confidential discussions.  Another aspect would be to travel to do a workshop, 
then remotely advise and mentor the attendees.

Rich


> 
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:08 PM, lynn ackerson  wrote:
> 
>> Why am I asking? As a CDSS board member particularly interested in contras,
>> I'm brainstorming about what a long-distance mentoring program could look
>> like.

Re: [Callers] Looking for a Dance

[Rich Goss]

I have a dance that has that feature. 

Do What the 2's Say – Cammy Kaynor and Sue Dupre   Improper

A1: Neighbor Dosido
Ones swing

A2: Ones down the hall, turn alone
Return, with Neighbor cast off (Twos cast Ones)

B1: One’s (or Two’s) choice

B2: LLFB, Twos swing

Update:  Sue says that it’s better to have the one’s decide as they are going 
down the hall, then tell the two’s during the cast off.


> 
> 
>> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:05:44 -0400
>> From: thesmit...@gmail.com
>> To: call...@sharedweight.net
>> Subject: [Callers] Looking for a Dance
>> 
>> I'm calling a dance tomorrow. Being so close to April Fools day, I'm
>> planning just a tiny bit of foolishness. There's a dance, it may be called
>> Trick Or Treat, where the hook is a 16-count segment where the dancers are
>> encouraged to call some action of their own, so long as they end up back
>> where they started at the end. If anyone has a copy of this and can send
>> it my way, that would be great. Otherwise, I'll just put together my own.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> --Ryan
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Re: [Callers] Why I call squares (was Re: Contra / MWSD parallels?)

[Rich Goss]

Well put Jim!  I totally agree that dancer fun should be our main objective as 
callers. Or programs should have variety or the dance form will become boring.  

Thank you Jim. 

Rich

On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:55 AM, James Saxe  wrote:

> I'm finally feeling impelled to comment on this.
> 
> The reason I include occasional squares at events billed as a
> "contra dances" is that I have personally had a tremendous
> amount of fun dancing them--much of it at events that included
> both squares and contra.
> 
> I first got into the traditional dance scene in Pittsburgh, PA,
> in the early 1980s.  The events were mostly advertised as "square
> dances" but a typical evening's program might (or might not,
> depending on the caller) have included several contras as well.
> I believe most of the dancers enjoyed both.
> 
> The squares I'm talking about, by the way, were "traditional",
> not modern western.  I'm sure there was an active MWSD community
> in Pittsburgh at that time, and probably there were a very few
> dancers who did both MWSD and "traditional" squares/contras, but
> it was for all intents and purposes a completely separate activity
> and community.  My intent in saying this is neither to disparage
> nor to praise MWSD, but merely to point out that anyone who cites
> anything about MWSD as a reason why contras and traditional squares
> don't/can't/shouldn't mix is engaging in a complete non sequitur.
> At the square dances I went to, we had no special attire, no
> need for separate lessons, and no recorded music.  [Yes, I know
> that not all MWSD groups require or even encourage the special
> attire, and that some MWSD events have live music, but going
> into more detail about MWSD here would be a digression from my
> main topic.]  The dances were every bit as open to the public as
> typical contra dances.
> 
> As a new dancer, my experience of that mostly square-centric
> Pittsburgh scene was that it was as welcoming a community as
> I had ever encountered.  Dances were often followed by a
> well-attended gathering at a local restaurant, or occasionally
> by a house party where conversation and musical jamming would
> go on into the wee hours of the morning.  I don't think the
> community was particularly more or less eclectic than the
> communities of contra dancers I know of.
> 
> I found that squares and contras each offered their own kind of
> fun.  These kinds of fun were different enough so that when I
> moved to California and found a thriving contra dance scene, I
> noticed after a while that I was missing the kind of exciting
> squares I had danced in Pittsburgh.  On the other hand, the
> kinds of fun and the skills involved in the two forms were
> similar enough IMO that a lot of the same people could (and,
> in at least in one community where I had danced regularly for
> several years, actually did) enjoy both in the same evening.
> 
> In short, the reason I sometimes call squares at "contra" dances
> is that I believe they can add a special kind of fun to the
> mix.  I also believe that most other callers who mix squares
> with contras do so for the same reason--because they think
> squares can add a different, but not too different, kind of
> fun.  I'll freely admit that I, and other callers, haven't
> always succeeded in sharing this kind of fun with the dancers.
> present.  Certainly there have been times when I've chosen
> inappropriate squares for the circumstances, and times when
> I've ineptly taught and called whichever dance I've chosen.
> (I'm sure most of us have also had experiences from time to
> time with contras that were poorly chosen, poorly taught,
> and/or poorly called.)  What I bristle at are (a) implications
> that the fun I remember having with squares (including at mixed
> square/contra events) is a figment of my imagination (except in
> the sense that all fun and all memory are mental experiences)
> and (b) implications the I or other callers call squares out of
> motivations other than dancer fun, such as an abstract sense
> of duty to preserve historic traditions or some other notion
> of "making the dancers take their medicine".
> 
> Regards,
> --Jim
> 
> 

Re: [Callers] Request about requests

[Rich Goss]

Generally requests come in the form if asking for a certain move.  "Can you 
call a dance with a hey in it?"  Those can generally be accommodated if it fits 
the program.
I was asked once to call a specific dance.  I called it, and it was a disaster. 
  It was a disaster because I wasn't familiar enough with the dance to teach it 
properly, but was eager to please.  Needless to say, the dancers were not 
pleased.

Lesson for me was to accommodate requests only if I know it dead cold and it 
fits.


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> I'm curious -- how do you handle requests?
> 
> That is, at an event when a dancer or an organizer comes up to the
> stage and asks you to do a particular dance or type of dance?
> 
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Re: [Callers] Overused figures

[Rich Goss]

While I do pay some attention to the stock figures of a dance, I think the 
signature moves and the feel of the tunes are more important.  I also like to 
make sure the progressions are unique. The flow of the evening is most 
important IMO. 

Rich

Re: [Callers] Yearn?

[Rich Goss]

Here is the link to George Walker's dance, A Quarter More, that has the yearn 
figure, collected in 1994 by Mary Devlin.   I suppose that through the folk 
process a figure a bit different could also be called a Yearn.

http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/acdol/dance/acd_121.html

Would also be interested in what other callers are doing with this figure.  My 
dance with the yearn, Simplicity Becket, is not long lines but done as couples. 
 Another deviation.

On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Linda Leslie <laleslie...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Bob Isaacs and Chris Weiler collaborated on a dance that has the movement you 
> describe below. The call is "double slice left" or "chevron". The dance is a 
> single progression, however (see below).
> 
> I usually use "yearn" to mean going forward on the left diagonal with your 
> partner toward your next neighbors, and then backing up straight across from 
> these neighbors, so a single progression. It is a useful alternate to "circle 
> on the left diagonal with new neighbors" to progress in Becket formation. But 
> I like your explanation of why it should be called "yearn" for double 
> progression! It will be interesting to hear what other callers use for these 
> moves.
> Linda
> 
> Another Slice of Pinewoods
> Bob Isaacs & Chris Weiler
> Formation: Duple-Improper
> A1  Neighbor balance and swing
> A2  Double slice left to end across from 2nd shadow
> with Second shadow, Star right three-quarters
> Walk past 1st shadow left along the set
> B1 Partner gypsy and swing
> B2  Women's Chain
> Star Left
> 
> From Chris Weiiler: Written at Pinewoods American Dance and Music week. Bob 
> and I re-wrote Slice of Pinewoods at lunch that same day to be a more 
> neighbor centered dance, August 31st, 2006.
> 
> On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Rich Goss wrote:
> 
>> Nice dance. One very minor point:  my understanding is that a Yearn is past 
>> two couples. Toward the first on the left then as you back away you are 
>> across from the second couple along the line. At least the original dance 
>> with yearn did that reasoning that as you pass that first couple you "yearn" 
>> to dance with them (but you don't).
>> 
>> I really do like your dance though.
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Callers] And another "Anyone recognize this dance?"

[Rich Goss]

Seems like it would have better flow if the A1 roll away was women rolling the 
men.  Flows nicely then into A2 Women chain.

I don't recognize it.

Rich

On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:52 PM, Ric Goldman (letsdance) wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> I just came across some old scribbled notes I wrote down for a dance, but 
> don't recall if it's a musing or something I saw.  In any
> case, I didn't jot down any name or author.  Does anyone recognize this?
> 
> (Improper, start facing across)
> A11-4 Long lines fwd & back
>   5-8 Balance neighbor; roll away women (L-to-R)
> A21-4 Women chain to partner
>   5-8 Women lead 1/2 hey right-shoulder (actually more like 3/8 
> into...)
> B11-8 Partner balance and swing
> B21-4 Men allemande left 1-1/2
>   5-8 Neighbor swing
> 
> Thanx in advance,
> Ric Goldman
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Re: [Callers] Is this a dance already?

[Rich Goss]

Nice dance. One very minor point:  my understanding is that a Yearn is past two 
couples. Toward the first on the left then as you back away you are across from 
the second couple along the line. At least the original dance with yearn did 
that reasoning that as you pass that first couple you "yearn" to dance with 
them (but you don't). 

I really do like your dance though. 

Rich

On Jan 27, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing 
 wrote:

> (I was thinking about driving minor-key jigs in English dancing, where there
> are only a few that really have a sense of headlong motion, and I ended up
> drafting a contra dance to to show what I was talking about.  Then I thought
> about calling the dance and had to rejigger it a bunch to provide things like 
> a
> recovery point, etc.  Now it has less obvious novelty than it did, is probably
> danceable - but I don't know that it's unique.  Anybody recognize the
> sequence?)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> SOLAR NOON
> Becket contra
> 
> Alan recommends driving minor-key jigs 
> - "Sailor's Wife", "Jack's Health/Bolt the Door", "Female Saylor", etc - 
> or slinky reels.
> 
> Form:BK Figs: YearnL,CL.75,NG,NS,WH4+,PG
> 
> A1:1-4: LL forward (and usually to the left to a new couple), and back
>   5-8: CL 3/4 to face neighbors up and down
> 
> A2: 1-4:  Neighbors gypsy Rsh
>5-8:  Neighbors swing
> 
> B1: 1-8:  Hey for four  over and back (women pass rsh)
> 
> B2: 1-4:  Women pass wide right into partner gypsy
>4-8:  Partner swing on the side, open facing in.
> 
> END EFFECTS: Inactive couple wait on the long 2nd diagonal (left side as 
> you face up or down the set).
> 
> -- Alan
> 
> 
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Re: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit?

[Rich Goss]

I have a question.  At the end of A2 do they form long lines to start the B1 
slides, or to they make a line of 8 across?  Do the slides in B1 go up/down or 
across?  The statement "to a line of people across both sets" seems to 
contradict "partners facing...".

Thanks, Rich


> 
> Title: Major Hey
> Author: Erik Hoffman
> Formation: 4-face-4, becket
> A1: Circle Left 3/4, pass through; New Neighbor Swing
> A2: Long Lines; Men allemande Left 1 1/2 (to a line of people across
> both, sets, partners facing, men back-to-back)
> B1: Balance, slide right (a la Rory O'More); balance left, slide left (a
> la Rory O'More)
> B2: face partner, use right hand to start 1/2 hey for 8 (16)**
> C1: partner balance and swing
> 

Re: [Callers] contra dance webmasters unite! (?)

[Rich Goss]

Sure why not. I designed and maintain my calling website and also the Cascade 
Crossing site. 

Rich

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Re: [Callers] Caller's Fees

[Rich Goss]

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the data.  Portland has an attendance range of 80-150.  Hall is $300.

Rich

On Jul 11, 2011, at 4:01 AM, Jeff Kaufman wrote:

> Dan Pearl wrote:
>> 
>> In answer to questions, we give $50 to the person who provides/runs
>> the sound.
>> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> I've made a summary chart:
> 
>  http://sccs.swarthmore.edu/~cbr/news/2011-07-08.html
> 
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Re: [Callers] Caller Fees

[Rich Goss]

Portland,Oregon guarantees bands and callers $70, with shares above breakeven 
evenly distributed between band members, caller and a share to PCDC.  Bands 
above four members split the amount that would be paid to four.  For fifth 
Saturdays (open band/mic) only the two lead musicians and the lead caller are 
paid, same formula.

Sound person is paid $125.

Rich Goss



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> 
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> 
>> Hi,
>>   I know that "it varies" and probably quite widely, but I'm trying to get 
>> an idea of what is typically charged for one-time or semi-regular dance 
>> calling (not the high end festivals and balls and camps) or how receipts are 
>> divided between caller, band, and house. My interest is as caller, band, and 
>> dance organizer so all input would be appreciated. You can reply off-list to 
>> s...@manytracks.com.
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Re: [Callers] Dance ID?

[Rich Goss]

#1 I have as "Young at Heart" - Steve Zakon-Anderson


On 2/22/11 8:05 PM, "David Millstone"  wrote:

> Two contras called at a dance not long ago... the caller can't come up with
> the
> titles or authors. Can anyone on the list help?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> David Millstone
> 
> #1
> duple improper
> 
> A1 Neighbor allemande left 1-1/2
> Ladies chain
> 
> A2 Hey for four (women starting R shoulder)
> 
> B1 Women turn by RH, once around
> Swing partner
> 
> B2 Circle left 3/4 around to home
> Swing neighbor
> 
> 
> #2
> duple improper
> 
> A1 Circle left 3/4
> Partner allemande right 1-1/2, end with women facing in
>  
> A2 Balance wave, circulate (women cross, men loop)
> Balance wave, circulate again (men cross, women loop)
> 
> B1 Balance wave, swing partner
> 
> B2 Circle left 3/4
> Balance the ring, pass thru to new neighbors
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Re: [Callers] Walk-throughs

[Rich Goss]

On 4/30/10 11:29 AM, "Bob Isaacs"  wrote:

> Chris Weiler wrote:
>  
> 
> "I subscribe to the theory that if I need more than one walk thru, then
>  I'm calling a dance that is too difficult for the crowd. The main reason
>  that I might run a second walk thru is if there is a clump of beginners
>  and I need to get them progressed to new couples who can help them out. "
> 

Bob Isaacs wrote: 
> 
> Just curious - what are the dancer expectations where you call?
> 
>  

Often I find that is just depends on the dance.  Our Portland Saturday
dances tend to have a fair number of beginners, somewhere around 20-30
percent (we get between 100-150 total)  If I observe that folks seemed to
get it the first time, back it up and go.  If it's a dance with a tricky
move, second walkthrough.   If I've had to demo a move in the first
walkthrough, definitely a second with the feel of the flow.  I always try to
throw in a no-walkthrough sometime during the evening, with familiar moves.

Rich

Re: [Callers] New Dance: Betty's night out

[Rich Goss]

Cool, thanks for the update John.

Rich


On 4/18/10 1:57 PM, "joda_rogers" <joda_rog...@altrionet.com> wrote:

> 
> I called the dance last night, and it worked very well - it's a keeper.
> 
> There was a little tendency for the dancers to finish early, and therefore
> begin the Dos-a-do early.  I traced this back to the fact that the figure
> before the zig zag is a circle left 3/4.  The dancers were accomplishing that
> is 6 steps and starting (and finishing) the zig zag early.  The music was
> quite zesty, and the dancers were stepping This wasn't a big problem, and I
> was able to fix it by timing my calls differently.
> 
>> Betty's Night Out
>>  Rich Goss
>>  Improper, Double Prog
>> 
>> A1:  Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents
>> backing up, 4 counts)
>> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing
>> B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left past current N, zag right around
>> next N, zig left to couple #3
> 
> Regarding the timing in A2, I encouraged the dancers to (a) only take 4 steps
> down the hall, and (b) use a courtesy turn.  This sets up the timing for the
> up the hall and hand cast.
> (The hand cast takes 4 full counts, so therefore the up-the-hall can only be 4
> steps.)
> I had another problem in that some of the gents didn't do the ricochet
> correctly, but that was my fault for not demonstrating the oval pattern that
> is required. 
> 
> -John
> 
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>>   9. Reminder: Callers Workshop with Lisa Greenleaf (Jack Mitchell)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:14:02 -0400
>> From: Jack Mitchell <jamit...@mindspring.com>
>> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance
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>> 
>> That's what I had in mind.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> On 4/15/2010 11:52 AM, Gary Shapiro wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:31 AM, richgoss-at-comcast.net wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I don't think there would be enough time for a hand cast.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:
>>> 
>>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around
>>> (M back up)
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>> Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance
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>> 
>> 
>> From: "Gary Shapiro" sharedweight-gar...@snkmail.com
>> 
>> The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2:
>> 
>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around
>> (M bac

Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance

[Rich Goss]

Right.  Another way to describe it would be:
As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right
around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido).

Let me know how it goes if you call it.

Rich


On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" <rpersh...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Rich ~
> 
> I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has
> been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure?  Does it
> mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women
> pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the
> left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the
> next time through?
> 
> I might try it this weekend.  Thanks,
> 
> ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC
> 
> 
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, callers-requ...@sharedweight.net wrote:
> 
>> From: Rich Goss <richg...@comcast.net>
>> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT
>> To: Shared Weight <call...@sharedweight.net>
>> Subject: [Callers] New Dance
>> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net>
>> 
>> 
>> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who
>> recently passed
>> away, Betty Stewart.  Has this one already been written?
>> 
>> Betty¹s Night Out  Rich Goss
>> Improper, Double Prog
>> 
>> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
>> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
>>Partner swing
>> B2: Circle Left 3/4
>>As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left
>> 
>> 
>> Rich, Portland Or
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Callers] New Dance

[Rich Goss]

Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who recently passed
away, Betty Stewart.  Has this one already been written?

Betty¹s Night Out ­ Rich Goss
Improper, Double Prog
 
A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall)
A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across
B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh)
Partner swing
B2: Circle Left 3/4
As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left


Rich, Portland Or

Re: [Callers] Teaching Mad Robin

[Rich Goss]

It's the same path as a dosido.  Have them do a dosido and notice their
path, then lock eyes across the set with their partner and follow the same
path sideways around the same neighbor they did the dosodo with.  Seems to
work.

Rich


On 3/26/10 6:49 AM, "Rickey"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am looking for suggestions on how best to teach a "Mad Robin" to contra
> dancers who have not encountered it before.  It is in "Joyride" after a
> Gypsy and I have tried suggesting that they just let their feet take them
> around on the same path as the Gypsy did while turning to face their
> partner, and I have tried describing how the women start going up and inside
> and the men down and outside - but there is still a bit too much confusion
> out there.  I am planning on doing this in a venue where it may not be
> feasible to do a demo.  Any additional ideas?
> 
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Re: [Callers] card stand for callers

[Rich Goss]

I got mine at our local music store.  You may have better luck at music
stores that carry band instruments vs a Guitar Center type place.


On 3/6/10 8:35 PM, "aawoodall"  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am looking for a stand that attaches to a mic stand to hold my
> cards.  I have seen some callers with one.  Does anyone know
> what I am talking about and where to purchase one?
> Send responses to aawood...@verizon.net.
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Re: [Callers] Gypsies for Beginners

[Rich Goss]

Actually, most any dance with a balance and swing can be changed to a gypsy
and swing.  Just be careful when it occurs at the end of a hey (works if
it's right-on-the-side, but not left-on-the-side).


On 2/12/09 7:21 PM, "Rickey"  wrote:

> OK,
> 
> I give up.  I have been trying to find dances that feature gypsies and that
> beginners could enjoy.  I am especially interested in dances with more than
> one gypsy, and would be even more excited if there was a gypsy right into a
> gypsy left (or the reverse), and/or if men gypsy men or women gypsy women.
> I tried "American Country Dances on Line", but no multiple gypsy dances.  I
> even tried writing one - but I do not think that it 'flies'.  Any
> suggestions. It is for Valentine's Day.
> 
> Rickey
> 
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Re: [Callers] Another Name/Author Search

[Rich Goss]

Duh on my part.  I walked it through from the ladies role.  Of course it
works with turning alone.


On 12/29/08 7:48 PM, "Rich Goss" <richg...@comcast.net> wrote:

> It's in G  Maybe a clue there.  It doesn't seem to work for me when I
> envision it without the CT.  I'm Probably missing something but it seems
> like if you don't do a CT before the circle L all the way around, you are
> heading away from your partner.
> 
> 
> On 12/29/08 7:39 PM, "Dave Colestock" <contradancerd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> A Pass Thru never includes a courtesy turn.  If it did then that would then
>> be
>> a Right and Left thru (without hands, NE style).  Pass thru, then turn
>> alone. 
>> If you do the dance as descibed it will play out just fine.  It is a circle
>> left the whole way, and direction of travel is reversed.  Hence, I believe it
>> is a reverse becket dance (but I dont have Gene's books to check).
>>  
>> Dave Colestock
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 12/29/08, Rich Goss <richg...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Rich Goss <richg...@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Another Name/Author Search
>> To: "Shared Weight" <call...@sharedweight.net>
>> Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 10:31 PM
>> 
>> Actually, I noticed that in Double Boomerang the PT across has a courtesy
>> turn, that would fix it.  This is from a website with his dances:
>> 
>> Double Boomerang by Gene Hubert  Contra Becket
>> 
>> A1  M Almd L 1&1/2, Sw N
>> A2  LC on L diagonal, F
>> B1  PT across, Cir L, PT along
>> B2  B P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/29/08 7:19 PM, "Jack Mitchell" <jamit...@mindspring.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>When I diagrammed it, I couldn't figure out how to get you back to
>> your
>>>partner the way I had it written.  Is that circle left just half way?
>>>Jack
>>>At 09:35 PM 12/29/2008, you wrote:
>>> 
>>>  It looks like Double Boomerang by Gene Hubert, except for A2
>> (Gene's
>>>  is
>>>  LLFB, LC on left diag)
>>>  On 12/29/08 5:48 PM, "Jack Mitchell"
>> <jamit...@mindspring.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>>This is a dance that I wrote down at a dance I went to a while
>>>  back.
>>>>Finally got around to checking it out and a) I don't know the
>>>  name or
>>>>author and b) it doesn't quite work.  It was a good dance, and
>>>  did
>>>>work, but I've obviously written something down wrong.  Does
>>>  the
>>>>general shape of the dance look familiar enough to someone that
>>>  you can
>>>>make corrections and attributions?
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>Here goes:
>>>>Name?? --
>>>>Author??
>>>> Becket
>>>>Not tested
>>>>A1  Gents Alle L 1½
>>>>N Sw
>>>>A2  Left Diagonal ladies Chain to shadow
>>>>LL F
>>>>B1  Pass Thru across Turn alone
>>>>Circle Left 1x, pass thru up and down
>>>>B2  P B
>>>>face new Ns across
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Re: [Callers] Another Name/Author Search

[Rich Goss]

Actually, I noticed that in Double Boomerang the PT across has a courtesy
turn, that would fix it.  This is from a website with his dances:

Double Boomerang by Gene Hubert  Contra Becket

A1  M Almd L 1&1/2, Sw N
A2  LC on L diagonal, F
B1  PT across, Cir L, PT along
B2  B P



On 12/29/08 7:19 PM, "Jack Mitchell"  wrote:

>When I diagrammed it, I couldn't figure out how to get you back to your
>partner the way I had it written.  Is that circle left just half way?
>Jack
>At 09:35 PM 12/29/2008, you wrote:
> 
>  It looks like Double Boomerang by Gene Hubert, except for A2 (Gene's
>  is
>  LLFB, LC on left diag)
>  On 12/29/08 5:48 PM, "Jack Mitchell" 
>  wrote:
>>This is a dance that I wrote down at a dance I went to a while
>  back.
>>Finally got around to checking it out and a) I don't know the
>  name or
>>author and b) it doesn't quite work.  It was a good dance, and
>  did
>>work, but I've obviously written something down wrong.  Does
>  the
>>general shape of the dance look familiar enough to someone that
>  you can
>>make corrections and attributions?
>>Thanks!
>>Here goes:
>>Name?? --
>>Author??
>> Becket
>>Not tested
>>A1  Gents Alle L 1½
>>N Sw
>>A2  Left Diagonal ladies Chain to shadow
>>LL F
>>B1  Pass Thru across Turn alone
>>Circle Left 1x, pass thru up and down
>>B2  P B
>>face new Ns across
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Re: [Callers] Another Name/Author Search

[Rich Goss]

It looks like Double Boomerang by Gene Hubert, except for A2 (Gene's is
LLFB, LC on left diag)


On 12/29/08 5:48 PM, "Jack Mitchell"  wrote:

>This is a dance that I wrote down at a dance I went to a while back.
>Finally got around to checking it out and a) I don't know the name or
>author and b) it doesn't quite work.  It was a good dance, and did
>work, but I've obviously written something down wrong.  Does the
>general shape of the dance look familiar enough to someone that you can
>make corrections and attributions?
>Thanks!
>Here goes:
>Name?? --
>Author??
> Becket
>Not tested
>A1  Gents Alle L 1½
>N Sw
>A2  Left Diagonal ladies Chain to shadow
>LL F
>B1  Pass Thru across Turn alone
>Circle Left 1x, pass thru up and down
>B2  P B
>face new Ns across
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Re: [Callers] Looking for a contra corner triplet

[Rich Goss]

Nevermind.  I read a later post.  Got it.


On 4/25/08 11:37 PM, "Rich Goss" <richg...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Something seems to be missing.  How do the actives get into the middle?
> 
> 
> On 4/25/08 9:21 PM, "Laur" <lc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I KNOW.  I was quite enlightened by my personal google
>> encounter.
>> 
>> Its called Microchasimic by Ann Fallon
>> 
>> My mentor, Mike Clark, uses this dance in an evening
>> where they'll be a contra corner dance for a mixed
>> crowd. Its interesting enough for those who know the
>> move, but in its intimate setting clear enough for the
>> newer dancer to understand and be successful with. I
>> did it this evening, there were a number of people who
>> were new enough to not have encountered
>> 'contra cornerS' and I taught it so a newer caller
>> would not have "fresh meat" when she tried to teach
>> her dance later in the evening.  Its also easy to
>> remember. 
>> 
>> I know blah blah blah.
>> 
>> Here's the dance:
>> 
>> Proper/ 3x3/ longways
>> 
>> Forward and Back
>> Partner Do-si-do (all)
>> 
>> Actives (in the middle) Contra corners
>> EVERYONE balance and swing Partner
>> 
>> Face up to the music
>> Peel the Banana 
>> Top couple arch all dive through
>> 
>> Actives are now tops, tops bottoms, new actives
>> (1,3,2)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- Liz and Bill <staf...@ext.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Laurie,
>>> 
>>>  You've got my curiosity up. What is the
>>> dance?  An easy dance using contra corners would
>>> be useful. I'm aware of some of those triplets.
>>> 
>>> I've not been able to find it with google.
>>> (Note googling "microchasmic dance" finds
>>> "representing a microchasmic portion within the
>>> infinite spectrum of hues that decide our ...
>>> Thin, scaly fingers dance across the cooling
>>> flesh" which might be a good story line for a
>>> dance, but it's not a contra site).
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Bill
>>> 
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Re: [Callers] Looking for a contra corner triplet

[Rich Goss]

Something seems to be missing.  How do the actives get into the middle?


On 4/25/08 9:21 PM, "Laur"  wrote:

> I KNOW.  I was quite enlightened by my personal google
> encounter.
> 
> Its called Microchasimic by Ann Fallon
> 
> My mentor, Mike Clark, uses this dance in an evening
> where they'll be a contra corner dance for a mixed
> crowd. Its interesting enough for those who know the
> move, but in its intimate setting clear enough for the
> newer dancer to understand and be successful with. I
> did it this evening, there were a number of people who
> were new enough to not have encountered
> 'contra cornerS' and I taught it so a newer caller
> would not have "fresh meat" when she tried to teach
> her dance later in the evening.  Its also easy to
> remember. 
> 
> I know blah blah blah.
> 
> Here's the dance:
> 
> Proper/ 3x3/ longways
> 
> Forward and Back
> Partner Do-si-do (all)
> 
> Actives (in the middle) Contra corners
> EVERYONE balance and swing Partner
> 
> Face up to the music
> Peel the Banana 
> Top couple arch all dive through
> 
> Actives are now tops, tops bottoms, new actives
> (1,3,2)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Liz and Bill  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Laurie,
>> 
>>  You've got my curiosity up. What is the
>> dance?  An easy dance using contra corners would
>> be useful. I'm aware of some of those triplets.
>> 
>> I've not been able to find it with google.
>> (Note googling "microchasmic dance" finds
>> "representing a microchasmic portion within the
>> infinite spectrum of hues that decide our ...
>> Thin, scaly fingers dance across the cooling
>> flesh" which might be a good story line for a
>> dance, but it's not a contra site).
>> 
>> Cheers, Bill
>> 
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Re: [Callers] New web site

[Rich Goss]

Chris,

Looks great.  I like the whole program list on your previous gigs.  Thanks
for putting your dances out there.

Another quick advertisement here.  I used a book called Head First HTML, CSS
and XHTML when I first designed my webiste.  This book made it so easy to
learn CSS.  I highly recommend it.   It's entertaining.
http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfhtml/

Rich


On 4/19/08 2:44 AM, "Chris Page"  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> A quick advertisement:
> 
> Based on discussion here about a year ago, I decided to put
> my dances on a website.
> 
> It's finally done to the point where it's coherent enough to go
> public. There's some of my dance sequences, plus some
> other bits that may be of interest. As time goes on I'll add
> more dances, and may add other stuff.
> 
> It's at:
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/ccpage19143/index.htm
> 
> 
> Enjoy,
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Re: [Callers] Dance queries

[Rich Goss]

Erik Weberg, with a K.


On 1/14/08 2:50 AM, "Michael Barraclough" 
wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I have written down the notation for a dance called "Rocks & Dirt".  My
> notes are unclear as to whether it is by Carol Ormand for Eric We or it
> is by Eric for Carol.  Does anyone know and also does anyone know Eric's
> last name (I can't read my own writing!)?
> 
> I also have written down Charlie Thomas  Square  4 Poster Bed.  Does this
> ring any bells with anyone please?
> 
> Michael Barraclough
> http://www.michaelbarraclough.com
> 
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Re: [Callers] Dance names and moves

[Rich Goss]

Thanks Bob and Karen.  Those WERE called by Susan.

Bob, that's a very good dance you wrote.

Rich

[Callers] Dance names and moves

[Rich Goss]

I danced a dance tonight that started with allemande N by right 1.5, w/next
balance and swat the flea, pull by back to original N for a swing.  It had
Flea in the name and I think Bob Isaacs may have written it.  Does anyone
have the correct name, author, moves?
These may be the moves:
A1: N Alle R 1.5, next N balance L and swat the flea.
A2: PB this N and swing original N
B1: Circle L 3/4, swing P
B2: Ladies chain, star L to progress

The other was a dance called Naked in California.  Need same info.

Thanks, Rich

Re: [Callers] Dance Name

[Rich Goss]

On 10/6/07 7:30 PM, "barb kirchner"  wrote:

> 
I got it from Kathy Anderson, who called at the first Wednesday dance in
Portland last week.

Rich

> rich, didja get this from me?  i've been calling it forever.  nick boulet
> lives in knoxville - knew him (well, i still know him) from when i lived in
> atlanta.  i called it in portland last february.
>  

Re: [Callers] Dance Name

[Rich Goss]

That's it!  Thanks so much.

Rich


On 10/6/07 8:45 AM, "Dan Black" <blackjun...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Rich,
> 
> Wow I finally got one of these.  The name of the dance is Warming up the Car
> by who you said.  Nice dance without a circle.  Enjoy.
> 
> Dan
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Rich Goss <richg...@comcast.net>
> To: Shared Weight <call...@sharedweight.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2007 1:02:30 AM
> Subject: [Callers] Dance Name
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hope someone can shed some light on this.  I copied down a dance recently
> but did not catch the name.  I didn't have a chance to ask the caller.
> The dance was written by Nick Boulet.  Here are the moves.
> 
> A1:  Long wavy lines (women facing out) Balance, allemande left
>  ...to a ladies chain.
> A2:  Hey (ladies st pass rt sh)
> B1:  Partner Bal and Swing
> B2:  Circle left 3/4, Pass thru and alle left next to form long wave (A1)
> 
> It was fun to dance to.
> 
> Rich
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[Callers] Dance Name

[Rich Goss]

Hi,

Hope someone can shed some light on this.  I copied down a dance recently
but did not catch the name.  I didn't have a chance to ask the caller.
The dance was written by Nick Boulet.  Here are the moves.

A1:  Long wavy lines (women facing out) Balance, allemande left
 ...to a ladies chain.
A2:  Hey (ladies st pass rt sh)
B1:  Partner Bal and Swing
B2:  Circle left 3/4, Pass thru and alle left next to form long wave (A1)

It was fun to dance to.

Rich

Re: [Callers] Compilation of 'Hey' dances, and further requests

[Rich Goss]

I have First Hey:

First Hey - Paul Balliet
Improper

A1: Neighbor Allemande Left 1 1/2
Ladies Chain

A2: Hey For Four

B1: Partner Balance & Swing

B2: Circle Left 3/4
Balance the Ring, Pass Thru to Next Neighbor

There are many ways to teach a hey.  The best is a demo.  For a full hey
it's good to tell folks that they ultimately end up where they started.  At
least they know where they are supposed to be at the end of the hey.
Good luck, you'll do fine.

Rich Goss



On 11/5/06 9:32 PM, "Jillian Hovey" <jillianho...@rogers.com> wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who so generously sent me suggestions for easy dances to
> use in the fourth slot that I, as a new caller will call at our Toronto
> Country Dancer's dance that Bev Bernbaum will be calling next Saturday.
> 
> I have attached a Word document that has all the dances, some of which are
> annotated with teaching notes.
> 
> I have two requests:  I need the details of two dances:  First Hey by Paul
> Balliet, and "Kiss of a Lifetime" bu Peter Stix (I could not find either
> through an internet search.  [A suggestion: Please post the info to the whole
> list, so once someone has sent the info, others need not bother. Thanks!]
> 
> The other request is for suggestions on how to teach a hey.  (I am a little
> bit terrified.)
> 
> Please note, that I have not chosen a dance yet, but need to do so by
> tomorrow, so I cam open to suggestions from the list I sent (including the two
> above) and any other dances that you think are suitable.  [Note:  If I am too
> terrified to teach a Hey, then Bev has graciously offered that I can choose
> another easy dance, so I am open to suggestions on that front as well.]
> 
> Thanks for 'Sharing the Weight', and helping me out!  I have learned a lot
> from you out there in List Serve Land so far, and I am looking forward to
> more!
>
>
> 
> 
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Re: [Callers] New Caller Assistance

[Rich Goss]

Will et al,

I use an Apple Powerbook laptop to record my calling.  That, along with a
program called Amadeus II, I can record directly into it from the sound
board, or using a USB mic.

For cards I have developed a template for Word (Mac or PC) that prints
directly on 6x4 index cards.  I'll attach a sample, but would be glad to
forward the entire file, off list, for anyone who is interested.  It
contains 380 (and counting) of my favorite dances.  They're in alphabetical
order, and color coded in the banner.  Green-easy, yellow-intermediate,
blue-challenging.  I can also search (using 'find') for becket, particular
figures, authors, etc.

Sample is attached.  If you are not able to receive attachments, I can
upload it and send you a link.

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On 9/29/06 10:02 AM, "Will" <mainesail...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi All, 
> 
> After many years dancing, I decided to start calling
> and recently completed Lisa Greenleaf's course at
> Pinewoods, which was great-stupendous.
> 
> First of all, I want to thank all of you who have
> shared of your experience and knowledge on this and
> other sites so freely- your generosity is amazing and
> is of great assistance.
> 
> As I begin to build a repertoire, I'm faced with how
> to develop dance cards that work for me, and recording
> systems for previous dance programs, event planning
> aids etc.
> 
> Lisa shared what works for her, and I'd like to know
> what systems works for other folks, it seems that each
> person has found their own sorting/grouping structure
> and recording systems-ie: grouping dances by
> difficulty or prominant dance feature.  I'd appreciate
> feedback so I can choose among a range of
> possibilities that might fit me best.
> 
> Thanks very much,   Will Walton
> 
> I can also be reached at: mainesail113 atyahoodotcom
> 
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Re: [Callers] dance title & author mystery

[Rich Goss]

The B1 I got from Dale is:

B1:  Corners Cross (Gents, then Ladies)
 Circle Left (1x)

I like the other two mentioned.



On 5/9/06 3:38 AM, "Chris Weiler"  wrote:

> Hi Peter,
> 
> Thank you for identifying the dance! We had a great time dancing it at
> Chrissy's "Woman's Prerogative" session at NEFFA this year.
> 
> To get an idea of how busy the SharedWeight list is, you can visit the
> website and view the public archives there.
> 
> http://www.sharedweight.net/
> 
> There is also a couple of paragraphs talking about the focus of the list
> and how it got started.
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Chris Weiler
> Goffstown, NH
> 
> Peter Amidon wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chrissy,
>> 
>> I learned that dance in Austin TX and I originally thought it was
>> a Gene Hubert composition but did not have the name.  I always
>> announced this when I called the dance.  Someone finally recognized
>> it and let me know that it is a Dale Rempert dance called
>> 'Feet in Flight'.
>> 
>> The instructions are just as I transcribed it and taught it
>> EXCEPT for B1.  Here is the way I transcribed and the way I
>> call B1:
>> 
>>   B1: Pass R & L through
>>   Circle L X1
>> 
>> Obviously both ways work.
>> 
>> How busy is the Callers discussion list?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Peter and Mary Alice,
>>> 
>>> I'm writing to see if I can get the title of a dance which I *may*
>>> have collected from Peter at the Flurry some years ago (or maybe at a
>>> Greenfield dance more recently?)
>>> 
>>> Here it is, below.  Look familiar?  Any idea if it's one in your
>>> box?  If so, can you help with title and author?  My scribbles
>>> indicated that I thought it was a Gene Hubert dance, but no one I
>>> know has been able to find it in his books or on the internet.
>>> 
>>> If you have the data, great.  If not, I'd also love to know that you
>>> *don't* know.  :-)  And happy late spring to you both!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chrissy Fowler
>>> 
> [Insert name here]
 
> duple improper
> 
> A1: Ring balance; women roll neigbor gent away with a half sashay
> Ladies chain
> 
> A2: Women gypsy
> Swing P
> 
> B1: Circle L x3/4
> Ring balance, Petronella twirl
> 
> B2: Ring balance, Petronella twirl
 
> Ring balance, California twirl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Callers] Heart Beat Contra

[Rich Goss]

This is what I have for Heartbeat Contra:

Heartbeat Contra - Don Flaherty
Improper
 
A1:Balance ring, pet turn,
   Balance ring, pet turn
 
A2:Balance ring, Neighbor Swing
 
B1:Ladies gypsy 11Ž2; Partner Swing (on side)
 
B2:Circle 3/4; Balance ring, Cal twirl



On 4/4/06 4:43 AM, "Rickey"  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Here is another question about a dance I collected at the Down East Country
> Dance Festival this year.  In the B parts of Don Flaherty¹s ³Heartbeat
> Contra² I have Swing Neighbor; left gypsy (1 1Ž2 ?) to Partner; All Swing
> Partner/ Circle left 3Ž4; balance (who?) and California Twirl (Partner?).
> Besides my other questions I am unsure if the All Swing Partner ends (B1) or
> starts (B2).
> 
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Re: [Callers] Easy No P Swg for Contra Medley

[Rich Goss]

Here is one I found in my list.  No P swing, but a N swing.

Newbury Reel - Tony Parkes
duple Improper  

A1:  Long lines forward and back
 Actives dosido partner

A2:  Neighbor dosido
 Neighbor swing

B1:  Down the hall four in line, turn as couple
 Return, bend the line

B2:  Ladies chain over and back



On 3/31/06 4:23 PM, "Karen Fontana"  wrote:

> Hello, all...
>
>   Any one have or recommend any simple, easy contra dances with no Partner
> Swing that can be done as part of a medley?  (no P Swg, no P Swg, P Swg)!...
> Yes, for April Fool's!
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Karen Fontana
>
>
>   I have one that has no swing at all:
>
>   Here is a duple improper by Ted Crane of Ithica NY
> No swing!
> 
> White Towed Cat
> 
> A1   Corner Bal
> Corner DSD 1.5
> 
> A2   Circle Left
> Rt hand across Star
> 
> B1Ladies chain over and back
> 
> B2Long Lines F
> Partners DSD
> 
> On to the next
> 
> 
> 
>   <>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>
> 
>
>   Karen Fontana 
> www.karenscontracorner.com
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Re: [Callers] Gender Free dance arm bands

[Rich Goss]

This is a fun dance for GRF dances:

Contra for Linda (Improper)

A1.(8)N dosido
(8)Circle left
A2.(16)N swing, end facing down
B1.(16)4-in-line go down the hall, turn as couples, return, bend the
line
B2.(8)Star right
(8)Star left

>From Grant Goodyear: http://www.grantgoodyear.org/dance/dances.html

Anyone know of other online resources to use for GRF or beginner dances?

Rich

> 
> 
>> Gang,
>> 
>> I am looking to get some arm bands for a contra dance workshop with about
>> 30 beginner women.  The
>> event is planned for April 11, so there is plenty of time.  It is a
>> difficult assignment for this
>> single guy but some one gots to do it.  I did some searching on the
>> Internet and found two types
>> with Velcro ($3 and $2 per).  In the past during gender free dancing at
>> the flurry, the straps of
>> fabric on the arm didn't seem to last long.  So any experience will be
>> greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Secondly the event will last two hours, suggestion on dances, Baby Rose,
>> The Nice Combination,
>> Midwest Folklore, any others. I hope this isn't a Galopede event.  Also it
>> looks to be a bandless
>> event.  Any advice for CD music or the shanghaiing of a fiddle player.
>> Thanks
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Re: [Callers] Keep watching the dance floor the entire nite!

[Rich Goss]

The San Antonio dance group had a blind dancer.  Everyone in the community
helped her along.  But Seth T's observation held here too.  She didn't
function as well doing non-touching moves, but the other dancers made them
touching moves.  It was a joy to watch, and to dance with her.

Rich


On 3/1/06 7:28 AM, "Seth Seeger"  wrote:

> On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Karen Fontana wrote:
> 
>>   So, this begged the question: do I keep calling to help her out (one
>> person), or do I let her fumble and let some help outŠ. After
>> experimenting some more (calling thinly and watching herŠ.   I stopped
>> calling once and she ended up in a completely different hands 4 group
>> for the P Bal & Swg no where near her P), I finally figured out what
>> was happening!  The woman was blind!  Or, at least hard of seeingŠ.
>> A caller friend was at the top of the set ³Hey² I asked my friend ³is
>> that woman over there blind?²,Š. ³yeah², he said, quite non-chalantly,
>> no big- dealŠ.
> 
> While I have no experience with this, it surprises me...  I would have
> expected the blind person to learn the dance faster than the regular
> dancers!  Has anyone else had experience with blind dancers?
> 
> Seth
> 
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