Re: [Callers] How many beats to a rip/snort?

[K Panton via Callers]

Tom, Ben & Jane:

Thanks for your responses; I feel relieved.

The dance I've written is as follows and includes a ring balance followed
by R'n'S then down the hall. the transition A2->B1 will be a bit of a run
(X trails to a ring balance).

Here it is, in case you are curious.

The name? Inspired by Love at First Swing (Bob Isaacs) - the basic
structure is the same - with a, (granted) somewhat forced, allusion to that
first time your new sweetie makes you laugh just as you've taken a large
sip of a fizzy beverage! ha ha :)

*Love at First Snort (Ken Panton, April 2018)*

Improper

*CALL *

*A1*

*(8)*

*Bal the ring; spin R*


*(8)*

*Swing P*

*A2*

*(8)*

*Bal the ring; spin R*


*(8)*

*Swing N*

*B1*

*(8)*

*Bal the ring; x trails*


*(4)*

*with new N, Bal the ring*


*(4)*

*Rip/Snort to line of 4*

*B2*

*(8)*

*Line of 4 down the hall*


*(8)*

*with N, turn as couples and return*
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Re: [Callers] How many beats to a rip/snort?

[Jane Ewing via Callers]

Jane's Rip & Snort   Dec 2011
Dup Im

A1     See-Saw N, Bal Cir
        2's Rip & Snort up thru 1's

A2     4 in Line-Turn Alone, Back & bend to ring

B1    Circle Left 3, Partner Sw

B2     Ladies Chain, Star Left

Jane Ewing
Grant, AL

Regarding timing... on its own A1 is technically longer then 16 for the 
average dancer..however the timing in B2 seldom takes 16.  When the 
2 are in action together 9 sets out of 10 have no problem.  Rip & Snort 
will still get close to 8 counts to accomplish.  This is an easy dance 
that brings out laughter.  It is also good to set up the caller to use 
R later in the evening in a square without having to teach the move 
during the Sq Dance walk thru.  Enjoy.  Also a big thanks to Tom Hinds 
who was my sounding board when working on this one



On 4/7/2018 4:11 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers wrote:

I think you're correct about it taking between 4 and 8 beats (more like 6).

If you want someone to ask, I'm pretty sure Jane Ewing of Alabama wrote a dance 
with this move in it.

I don't think that we need to be rigid about the names we use today, but I 
suspect that historically cowboy loop was for four people and rip and snort was 
for 8.  There are callers who have been calling longer than I have and can 
correct me if I'm wrong.

Tom




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Re: [Callers] How many beats to a rip/snort?

[Ben Werner via Callers]

All,

I wrote the following dance with a Rip and Snort. Due to the slight 
modification and squishy timing of down the hall it works out. I think it 
usually takes about 4 -6 beats in my dance. 

Rip and Snort 
duple improper
Ben Werner

A1:  (8) Balance the ring, Rip and Snort (1s arch 2s dive through, 
separate, maintaining connection, end in a short facing down the hall line with 
the 1s in the middle.)
(8) Down the Hall, 2s gate the 1s (1s keep walking forward and 2s 
back up to end with the 2s in the middle and 1s on the outside)
A2:  (8) Up the hall
(8) Gents Allemande Right 1 1/2
B1:  (16) Partner Balance and swing
B2:  (8) balance the ring, petronella
(8) balance the ring, California twirl

Cheers,
Ben


> On Apr 7, 2018, at 3:11 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you're correct about it taking between 4 and 8 beats (more like 6).
> 
> If you want someone to ask, I'm pretty sure Jane Ewing of Alabama wrote a 
> dance with this move in it.
> 
> I don't think that we need to be rigid about the names we use today, but I 
> suspect that historically cowboy loop was for four people and rip and snort 
> was for 8.  There are callers who have been calling longer than I have and 
> can correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> Tom
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:12 PM, K Panton via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've looked in the usual places and came up with only two examples of a 
>> dance with a Rip/Snort (Rip 'n' Snort?) but one is inaccessible online.
>> 
>> How many beats does it take to dance a rip/snort for two couples? My brain 
>> says 4 is too short and 8 is too long. I found one dance that pairs it with 
>> a ring balance for a total of 8 beats.
>> 
>> I haven't access to "Roll Over Johannes" to see how Becky Hill made use of 
>> it.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Ken Panton
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Re: [Callers] How many beats to a rip/snort?

[Tom Hinds via Callers]

I think you're correct about it taking between 4 and 8 beats (more like 6).

If you want someone to ask, I'm pretty sure Jane Ewing of Alabama wrote a dance 
with this move in it.

I don't think that we need to be rigid about the names we use today, but I 
suspect that historically cowboy loop was for four people and rip and snort was 
for 8.  There are callers who have been calling longer than I have and can 
correct me if I'm wrong.

Tom

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> On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:12 PM, K Panton via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've looked in the usual places and came up with only two examples of a dance 
> with a Rip/Snort (Rip 'n' Snort?) but one is inaccessible online.
> 
> How many beats does it take to dance a rip/snort for two couples? My brain 
> says 4 is too short and 8 is too long. I found one dance that pairs it with a 
> ring balance for a total of 8 beats.
> 
> I haven't access to "Roll Over Johannes" to see how Becky Hill made use of it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ken Panton
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