I think HF (hydrofluoric is the acid of choice for
glass etching).
I was thinking of asking a local glass etcher, but
the suggestions of acrylic and another of glassine paper between two sheets of
glass look liek enough to keep me busy for a while.
Murray
Hello:
I recently read a post by someone who is testing an 11 x 14 box camera
before embarking on a 20x24 rollfilm camera...
Are you on this list?
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Thanks for the encouragement...I've dissassembled the optics side of my old
35 mm format Retina-Tele-Xenar lens to inventory the optics and see what was
usable. I wish the iris side had been that easy...that was it's problem.
If I project an image of say, a light fixture onto a wall,
I got a magazine in the mail yesterday that has a 7 watt compact fluorescent
lamp electronic ballast circuit in it (hot, not cold cathode) that runs off
12 V DC.
If anyone is interested, let me know.
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Can someone refer me to (or explain to me) what hyperfocal distance is (and
how to apply it to lens construction/use)?
I want to experiment with some single meniscus and achromat lenses. I picked
up an electronic shutter on eBay and am trying to get some ideas about how
far to position
Local hospital told me they do both digital and film...film is more secure
in the event of technical difficulties, but digital is able to do more -
color, digital signal processing, etc.
Murray
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Hello:
I lost out on two eBay auctions for large Aero-Ektar lenses last week.
I realize they have a host of quirks ranging from mechanical issues with
integration into a camera to discolored optics and radioacivity due to
thorium oxide in the rear element.
But they are 'cool'.
Before I embark
Hello:
Can someone either explain or refer me to something explaining the theory of
operation of a focal plane shutter? Are there single and double curtain
ones?
What determines the limits of their usability? I hear of certain photos
revealing problems with FP shutters?
All this is heading
I was under the impression that picture framing glass as well as mirrors are
'float glass'. We occasionally pull a piece of clear framing glass that has
tin residue on it. The glass is certainly not optical quality, however.
Once, Tru-View Glass let me speak with a quality engineer and I got a
Anyone have any references on 'pulsed xenon' lamp sources for large format
enlargers?
Ansel Adams mentions this in one of his Basic books, and I ran into
someone's website once that built an enlarger with this source.
I may have access to this technology thru work and want to start the
learning
Hello:
If there are patent numbers, you can probably do some research on US patent
database. You can't search the old stuff by keyword, because the patent
pages are saved as .tiff files.
I had no luck with this aproach myself with either the Fairchild
cameras/shutters or the Graphic focal plane
Ah, I see further down in the digest someone has provided some patent
numbers.
I go to www.uspto.gov
It takes a little while to figure out how to use the website. There is a
download link there for a plug-in called alterna-tiff, which will allow
.tiff files to be displayable in a browser. It
Hello John:
After reading Ansel Adam's reference to pulsed Xenon lamp enlargers and
seeing a large format enlarger on the Internet owned by a guy in the Chicago
area, I started looking into it myself.
I found the lamps (on their way to obsolescence), and the 750 W and 1500 W
ones were on the
Hello:
This has probably been asked, discussed, etc. many times before, and maybe
I've already asked.
I haven't built a camera yet...still collecting parts and so on.
If someone can please refer me to a website that discusses the requirements
for spacing ground glass relative to the film
Hello:
Has anyone ever tried 'non-glare' picture framing glass for ground glass, or
is it not 'rough' enough?
Thanks
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Anyone have an idea what an Aristo cold head for 8x10 enlarger costs?
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Hello:
1) When old filmholders develop cracks in, or loss of, the flexible hinge
that swings open to slip film in and out of the film holder, what is
appropriate to repair them with? I bought a roll of black photo tape from a
photo store, and it was the first think I thought of.
2) In a box of
thanks filmholder replies
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I have checked my PC with a current virus checker and apparently all is
well. I still get responses back from mail servers blocking mail from my
reply-to: address allegedly containing viruses.
I think this is the other side of the coin with all the messages I get with
weird attachments from
Thanks Bob - I think in my case a little knowledge is dangerous - I worry
more about what I do NOT know than what I do...with the hope that eventually
when I know it, I'll be the first to know.
And AZ (panoramic), I would like info (off list or on, whatever's
appropriate) on custom lamp...I had
Is Huw of LED enlarger fame on this list?
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I have been fighting with upgrading my AV software and got bit by an
address-book virus today or yesterday - and I sure heard about it from
everyone else's AV software that was working. I must have gotten 50
rejection messages!
It was one of those Klez.H variations and it infected some
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If anyone can identify what the mechanism did, it would be appreciated.
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If this is an appropriate venue to discuss this topic, I'd like to hear from
people who have used their view cameras to make an enlarger - whether a
minimalist approach (mine) or not.
Just looking for some basics or reading material so I don't have to
'reinvent the wheel'...someone
I have the 4 basic AA books (don't have Artificial Lighting book).
Murray
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Hello:
I previously got some aerial lenses to make a large format camera with. I
just got an Ilex Paragon process lens that might (probably no question
there) be easier to use. Got home late just dragged it into the garage -
didn't find out if it has a shutter or what other electrical device
I actually did find a web site with an academic discussion of designing
various arc lamp power supplies, so who knows, I might end up trying that
someday (I'm high voltage-savvy). The lamps are getting scarcer, at least as
far as new from the manufacturer is concerned.
I sure do like the idea of
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What is that thing in the front? It's raised, has slots holes in it. Can I
remove it to have a flat smooth place to fit a lens board in?
Maybe it's NOT a Cambo?
Thanks
Murray
What is the longest f.l. process lens you folks have heard of or have in
your collection?
I would like to know what exists for the 23 x 35 bellows coming my way,
rather than looking for something that doesn't exist.
I could experiment with single elements for camera work, but enlarging would
it is more specific
than Re: Contents of Cameramakers digest...
Today's Topics:
1. pics to follow up to bellows questions (Uptown Gallery)
2. Process lens (Uptown Gallery)
3. Re: Process lens (John Cremati)
4. Re: Bellows Material Cordura (J. Wayde Allen)
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I know this has come up before, but not my silly comments - I hope wasn't
one of those photographers that wants to be able to expose and develop all
in one container!
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Against the better judgement and advice of list members, I was unable to
resist a lens that will mate with the 23 x 35 bellows I acquired.
I know someone will be able to say...'Nyuah, nayh, I told you so, but it
was irresistible.
27 f/8 from a 48 x 60 high resolution camera.
I'm afraid it won't
Hello:
I was given an HP ScanJet 3C. I don't see much advantage other than that it
was probably made like a tank, it's 600 DPI optical , it's 14 long instead
of 11.7 and there was a transparency adapter available that looks like it
might have done 4x5. It came with the SCSI card and cable so no
I saw a listing on eBay once, I think from Switzerland, for an Aero-Ektar
610 mm f/6 lens and he was quoting from supposed specs, and the resolution
was quite high, or so it seemed to me. If I recall he then went on claiming
how wonderful the color was. He had it mounted on some kind of view
I found a website with an optics-as-related-to-photography FAQ file with a
technical bent.
http://www.photo.net/learn/optics/lensFAQ
I made the an observation about the following question/answer
What is the basic formula for the conditions under which an image
is in focus?
A. There are
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I was looking in a store today and they had three different Polaroid Land
Cameras for $8 each.
One was a model 85 the other might have been 66 or 96 and I don't remember
the other.
2 looked like they said something about 3000 speed film, didn't notice the
other.
These actually had
Book knowledge :
Ansel Adams in Camera Lens makes reference to light flare problems with
a bellows not much larger than the film holder, and that he blamed
everything else before figuring out what it was.
I imagine with a smooth-sided box it could be equally as bad or worse...I
would make the
So, Murray, what did he figure out what the problem was in his case?
He also said someone else...I don't remember if it was Weston had the same
trouble, and they blamed everythign they could think of, including radiation
effects (!) before discovering the bellows on the 8x10 cameras they were
[2] How do you guys get the two boxes to slide smoothly
I am looking at 1/4 birch veneered plywood $14 a 48 x 96 sheet - probably
will stain well or look good natural with some trim over the edges - double
wall front for heavy lens.
I was looking at ball bearing drawer slides, but they would
Hello:
I picked up a sack o' Polaroid cameras and an Argus LC-3 mini-meter today.
The meter dial has f stop 4.5-22 ASA settings, EVS scale from 3.5 to 16 and
shutter setting from 8-4.
EVS sounds familiar, but it looks like if one attempts to use the Shutter
setting scale, the EVS pointer
Hello:
1) After more reading and responses from list members - EV scale is pretty
nice actually!
2) Someone brought in some old photos to frame today and I sized them up
quickly - they looked like proof contact prints from 4 x 5 sheet film.
The film says Kodak- Safety 76
I am curious
I am curious what those of you out there in Camera-Land interested in
Extremely Large format (like the16x20 and 20x24) do with the photos...
are some of you studio professionals or in galleries elsewhere and sell them
or are you amateurs and populate your own walls?
My day job is in a techical
Hello:
Nice responses -
I have been curious about others' views toward the subject...
My wife and I have two photographers in our gallery (we had a third for a
while), and I have been extremely frustrated with the attitudes of people
who come in and speak without thinking...I call it I can do
Considering the unavailability of Polaroid roll film for old Polaroid
cameras, does anyone know if hanging a box with a 4x5 filmholder will
achieve coverage of the full negative?
As I type this, I realize they all have different lenses. I picked up 4, all
with bellows and glass lenses, but they
Hello:
I am occasionally reminded of wind and rain issues for such cameras.
One photographer with a 20x24 told me he has two helpers to hold on to the
camera in the wind. Some people have used tent stakes!
Ansel Adams discusses (probably oriented toward 8x10) resonance and
vibration, mainly
I was thinking more about bellows wind-loading...shaking and vibrating.
I want to take Lake Michigan winter photos but it's so windy (a layer of
snow will take care of the blowing sand) I hate to get out of the car.
Maybe a box camera would be better a bellows type for aggressive wind.
Murray
Hello:
Sorry for duplicating a message on the pinhole list too, but
I have an idea for a homebrew spotmeter, but want to read up on 'real ones'
first.
If any of you own one, I'd appreciate if you'd take a peek on the case and
see if there any US Patent numbers so I can start reading.
Thanks
Hello and Happy Holidays:
Can someone refresh my memory with a formula for determining angle of view?
Thank you
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I gutted 4 Polaroid folding bellows cameras (mostly roll-type, maybe all
four were) to see what I could make use of for conversions to 4x5. (J66,
150, 95B, 100). LOTS of rivets to drill out!
The J66 and 100 will end up as pinhole cameras. I intend to add an extender
box on
Some labs will give 'em up, some wont. I think they get some credit for
them. I offered one place to pay their deposit/credit value and in the end
they changed their mind...the manager couldn't think out of the box...just
couldn't deal with the idea.
I think they had 160 uF photoflash electrolytic
Energy stored in capacitor [Joules] = 1/2 * C*V^2
C in Farads, V in volts.
I think the voltage is dumped into a transformer or trigger coil, which
might be an autotransformer.
Many xenon flashes have a lower arc voltage (tens of volts) and a trigger
voltage (4-10 kV depending on size) which
NuArc made tons of industrial cameras...you might ask local printers and
newspapers to avoid shipping heavy stuff.
Murray
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What I'm trying to do is clarify the difference between irradiance and
luminance.
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I downloaded (it took a little effort to figure out how and I've forgotten
exactly what I did) the USPTO (US Patent Trademark) database 'class'
listings for photography (396). This allows limited searching of the scanned
image file archives (can't do text searches on image files).
I should save
If you're talking about the USPTO address, it's www.uspto.gov
It seems to 'need' the www part.
I will figure out how I extracted the Photography 'Class' listings. If
there's an easier way than me scanning and OCR'ing and proofing the printed
pages or saving as image files, I'd prefer that.
If he brings it in I'll find out Monday what it is.
The reason I'd like to look at a 'real' camera rather than virtual one on
the web is I can't visualize well from something like Rudolf Mittelmann's
Formicula PDF drawings.
There is a 'lip' or bump on my filmholders, most of them, I think, that
Only two people had content in the last cameramakers digest, so one or both
of you is guilty of having HTML formatting set up on your email software
instead of plain text, and are forwarding the full thread/contents of back
forth replies.
I won't point less than two fingers, so please take a
Hello:
Is there a rule of thumb for how much range of adjustment one needs to build
in for DIY standards? I guess rise fall are the important ones.
During the discussions about 16x20 or 20x24 format it was made clear that
aside from rigidity, standards from smaller format cameras wouldn't rise
Hello:
There's no free lunch...
Some process lenses are priced very attractively. Then when you get one in
your hand, even if you knew ahead of time, the reality of no shutter, no
lens shade, etc makes you realize you have more work to do.
Then you hear that the incredible image circle specs
Options:
1) Search for anything 1975-to-present by keyword in any of the available
fields
GO TO www.uspto.gov
CLICK on Patents on left side of page. Then CLICK SEARCH patents. CLICK
QUICK or ADVANCED search.
Or just go here: http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/search-bool.html
2) Search for stuff
If you search Google or whereever for William G Hyzer, you find some weird
stuff. He has been called as a photogrammetric expert to analyze UFO photos
and military photos for some court case.
Here's a third party contact page from some forensics group. His name was on
it.
http://www.spie.org/web/abstracts/2800/2869.html
Lots of references on High-speed photography (and photonics)
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Probably been asked many times before...sorry for repeat questions, unless
it's helpful to others...
What are actual sizes of 4x5 and 5x7 sheet film?
I am going to have a little jig/fixture made to allow me to measure these
off a roll of 5 film, in the dark, of course...just slide into
1) I'll look into sharpening the 'unblade'.
2) I found some Loctite Clover lapping compound at work today - it was only
240 grit in an oil base.
I searched for it and found a Loctite e-catalog that listed the oil and
water-base products.
I then went and looked at the water-based product. It's
It has silicon carbide, water, triethanolamine and diethanolamine.
Here's the 600 grit MSDS
Murray
HENKEL LOCTITE CORPORATIONDate of Preparation:
04/16/01
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET Page 01
of 05
1. PRODUCT AND COMPANY
I save all the digests, but that makes it harder to retrieve info too -
takes a long time to search -
If I use Silicon Carbide to make ground glass, what grade or grades should I
use?
Thanks
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I like that, particularly because it's an off-label use and you made your
own abrasive.
Now we need someone with a fuel cell to produce their own water!
Murray
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http://www.nevins.ca/drip/
This guy bought my Engineering and High Speed Photography book - he has an
interesting project here...I think.
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Hello:
Someone here gave an interesting suggestion regarding having a grid lamp
made up that was blue.
I don't remember what that was a solution for, but it sounds like it's worth
exploring for my big monochromatic lens.
I have conflicting wavelength info I will clarify first. What needs to be
I inquired of Kodak today about sheet film sizes and got an interesting
reply.
Aside from being 'proprietary' (!), there is a reference for how they come
up with the tolerances for various sizes
Hello Murray,
Thank you for contacting Kodak Professional.
The exact sizes of sheet film
Kind of a circular definition given the Manhattan Project secrecy about film
size, but I guess I'd convert 20x24 to metric and see what their chart then
tells me. I realize it makes the assumption that you 'know' the size by
using the nominal size, but the chart they sent me is only useful if they
I think ReCon (maker of Bay of Pigs camera) makes stuff like that.
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I'm curious if any of the Graflex FP shutter cameras being discussed have
patent numbers available. (?)
I am getting pretty good at finding patent info on my own now, but you'd
save me a lot of looking if there are numbers available already.
I read the patents to help me understand how certain
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