Re: Maintenance release of 2.1

2011-10-03 Thread Magnus Holm
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 14:26, Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com wrote:
 I wouldn't bother with reducing the revision number. If anything
 having weirdly high ones makes the project seem more alive and active.
 Is the minor number even functionally useful here? Maybe we should
 ditch that and just keep major as a look! An increment! Heaps cool
 stuff must have happened! unless google chrome has ruined new major
 numbers for everyone anyway.

Well, it's useful for computability reasons. Every app created on 2.x
should work on 2.x+n with minimal required changes.
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Re: Maintenance release of 2.1

2011-10-03 Thread Jenna Fox
True that.

Meanwhile, have you guys seen http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ ? It looks 
pretty nice, and I imagine something like that could be pretty powerful if 
deeply integrated with a version of markaby, as a 'ui toolkit for the web' sort 
of thing - a nice sensible clean default style for quickly prototyping ideas, 
and teaching beginners the concepts of the web.

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Jenna

On 03/10/2011, at 8:47 PM, Magnus Holm wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 14:26, Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com wrote:
 I wouldn't bother with reducing the revision number. If anything
 having weirdly high ones makes the project seem more alive and active.
 Is the minor number even functionally useful here? Maybe we should
 ditch that and just keep major as a look! An increment! Heaps cool
 stuff must have happened! unless google chrome has ruined new major
 numbers for everyone anyway.
 
 Well, it's useful for computability reasons. Every app created on 2.x
 should work on 2.x+n with minimal required changes.
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Re: Maintenance release of 2.1

2011-10-03 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
Personally I hate it. It's like table border=2 and font size=7
once again, except this time camouflaged as CSS classes. The only good
things in there are either styled pretty much the same way by default
(like, say, headers), or require a line of code (@basefont, layouts).

-- Matma Rex



2011/10/3 Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com:
 Meanwhile, have you guys seen http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ ? It
 looks pretty nice, and I imagine something like that could be pretty
 powerful if deeply integrated with a version of markaby, as a 'ui toolkit
 for the web' sort of thing - a nice sensible clean default style for quickly
 prototyping ideas, and teaching beginners the concepts of the web.

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Re: Maintenance release of 2.1

2011-10-03 Thread Jenna Fox
Oh right, but you can use that LESS thing I think to compile the
bootstrap properties in to your regular CSS, so you keep using good
quality selectors, and bootstrap essentially augments your CSS with
useful macros. Another way to do it is to define markaby helpers for
each kind of thing, so you can still just go change one small piece of
code to restyle the whole site's whizlebobs.

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Jenna

On 04/10/2011, at 3:07 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote:

 Personally I hate it. It's like table border=2 and font size=7
 once again, except this time camouflaged as CSS classes. The only good
 things in there are either styled pretty much the same way by default
 (like, say, headers), or require a line of code (@basefont, layouts).

 -- Matma Rex



 2011/10/3 Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com:
 Meanwhile, have you guys seen http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ ? It
 looks pretty nice, and I imagine something like that could be pretty
 powerful if deeply integrated with a version of markaby, as a 'ui toolkit
 for the web' sort of thing - a nice sensible clean default style for quickly
 prototyping ideas, and teaching beginners the concepts of the web.

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