Gone a little crazy
So, I went a little crazy this weekend and did a whole bunch of things: * camping.io now renders properly in Chrome (yay! why didn't anyone tell me this was broken? evolving web standards are annoying!) * I tidied up some issues and commented on heaps of things on https://github.com/camping/camping/issues * I patched a readme to not talk about features we removed from The Camping Server * I created extensive documentation for chill - my couchdb abstraction. http://creativepony.com/chill/rdoc/ChillDB.html * I added bulk commit and delete support to chill - which should improve performance quite a bit * I added ruby views support to chill - but I haven't tested this yet. All these things seem vaguely related to camping (at least to me). Lets talk about the website! — Jenna ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
The Website
So here we are, talking about the website again. Here's my thinking: David Costa's nearly got that neat camping app hosting thing working, which is amazingly awesome and we love him so much! People have all sorts of interesting ideas for things the camping site could do and have - lists of apps made in camping, wikis, forums, live chats where you're all a little spider in a sink and you can run around with your mouse and say things, text adventures, screencast theatres, interactive tutorials, book viewers, etc. What if we all just make a cool thing, and put it on David's cool hosting, and then we can all just run our own little sections of camping, like a little tent village with lots of homes which all have their own unique flavour. We could sort something out to have unified navigation menus, and have a simple app (or static page) to serve as the homepage, acting more as a gateway in to these other apps than anything else. We would be in charge of our own sections and it'd be awesome because we're all great at everything we do and we're all really great people! My hypothesis is many things aren't getting done with the website because we all just really can't be bothered getting consensus on the mailing list. We're impulsive creative people who just want to burst with energy and do something immediately without having to talk about it and justify it first. Consensus Democracy has worked great for the framework but maybe not for the site. What do you think? Can I get a consensus on this? — Jenna ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
Re: Gone a little crazy
Yeah I'm not even going to attempt that one. Opera is way out of my league. If you know how to fix it, I'd love the help, otherwise I'm all for opera's plan to pretend to be webkit. Maybe there's some way we can detect it and show opera a simpler website? — Jenna On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 9:04 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: camping.io (http://camping.io) is still badly broken for me on Opera 11.62, Windows XP. Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/7YZQf.png (These weird light-yellow bits aren't there, something went wrong with my screen capture tool, I guess.) -- Matma Rex ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org (mailto:Camping-list@rubyforge.org) http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
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This would be great! I think I'm gonna host a development blog for the game I'm working on David's hosting service. But that will be a while from now so I'll create something else that's cool. PS. I'll work my ass off to have the first screencast done on tuesday! Cheers! Isak Andersson Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com skrev: So here we are, talking about the website again. Here's my thinking: David Costa's nearly got that neat camping app hosting thing working, which is amazingly awesome and we love him so much! People have all sorts of interesting ideas for things the camping site could do and have - lists of apps made in camping, wikis, forums, live chats where you're all a little spider in a sink and you can run around with your mouse and say things, text adventures, screencast theatres, interactive tutorials, book viewers, etc. What if we all just make a cool thing, and put it on David's cool hosting, and then we can all just run our own little sections of camping, like a little tent village with lots of homes which all have their own unique flavour. We could sort something out to have unified navigation menus, and have a simple app (or static page) to serve as the homepage, acting more as a gateway in to these other apps than anything else. We would be in charge of our own sections and it'd be awesome because we're all great at everything we do and we're all really great people! My hypothesis is many things aren't getting done with the website because we all just really can't be bothered getting consensus on the mailing list. We're impulsive creative people who just want to burst with energy and do something immediately without having to talk about it and justify it first. Consensus Democracy has worked great for the framework but maybe not for the site. What do you think? Can I get a consensus on this? — Jenna Get the best selection of online sites here. Click Here to check them out! http://click.lavabit.com/ki3fjboh1at1j78grodt3ognyxtbqnur6gypm4ruhg1jdusgqdzb/ ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
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The fonts don't display because Opera sucks balls when it comes to
text-transform.
I have ran into problems with it before (when dynamically changing
.style.textTransform of an input field, the text displayed is not
updated - testcase:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10983006/textransformbug.html) and reported
them, and that was almost a year ago now, and is still not fixed.
Opera is pretty cool, but really sucks when it comes to handling bug
reports, eh.
You can work around this with a simple bit of JavaScript:
if(window.opera) // if you're feeling like it, you could maybe somehow
detect that the text is not shown correctly and check for this,
instead of just detecting Opera
{
var lst = document.querySelectorAll('h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6')
for(var i=0; ilst.length; i++) lst[i].firstChild.nodeValue =
lst[i].firstChild.nodeValue.toUpperCase()
}
(Or you could change the HTML source to use uppercase text, but I
guess you don't want to do that.)
(Or you could change the font files to use the same glyphs for upper-
and lower-case characters, but I guess that would require some work.)
-- Matma Rex
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Fixed url for Opera. As for text rendering, so long as it's readable, I don't
mind if it's ugly. Happy to let the Opera team fix Opera's bugs.
—
Jenna
On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 10:22 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:
Well, the background doesn't display because the path to the
background image (paper.png) is given incorrectly...
-webkit-border-image: url(paper.png) 75 30 50 30 stretch stretch;
-moz-border-image: url(paper.png) 75 30 50 30 stretch stretch;
-o-border-image: url(http://whywentcamping.com/img/paper.png;) 75
30 50 30 stretch stretch;
You should also ensure that the text is at least readable without the
background - a rule like #subwrap*{background-color:beige} will do
the trick (although will hide the fine texture of paper.png - to avoid
this, create another small image to set as background to #subwrap*
containing just the texture).
I don't know why the fonts don't display, but I'll try looking into it.
-- Matma Rex
2012/4/29 Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com (mailto:a...@creativepony.com):
Yeah I'm not even going to attempt that one. Opera is way out of my league.
If you know how to fix it, I'd love the help, otherwise I'm all for opera's
plan to pretend to be webkit. Maybe there's some way we can detect it and
show opera a simpler website?
—
Jenna
On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 9:04 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:
camping.io (http://camping.io) is still badly broken for me on Opera 11.62,
Windows XP.
Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/7YZQf.png (These weird light-yellow
bits aren't there, something went wrong with my screen capture tool, I
guess.)
-- Matma Rex
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Most excellent news! :D — Jenna On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 10:03 PM, Isak Andersson wrote: This would be great! I think I'm gonna host a development blog for the game I'm working on David's hosting service. But that will be a while from now so I'll create something else that's cool. PS. I'll work my ass off to have the first screencast done on tuesday! Cheers! Isak Andersson Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com (mailto:a...@creativepony.com) skrev: So here we are, talking about the website again. Here's my thinking: David Costa's nearly got that neat camping app hosting thing working, which is amazingly awesome and we love him so much! People have all sorts of interesting ideas for things the camping site could do and have - lists of apps made in camping, wikis, forums, live chats where you're all a little spider in a sink and you can run around with your mouse and say things, text adventures, screencast theatres, interactive tutorials, book viewers, etc. What if we all just make a cool thing, and put it on David's cool hosting, and then we can all just run our own little sections of camping, like a little tent village with lots of homes which all have their own unique flavour. We could sort something out to have unified navigation menus, and have a simple app (or static page) to serve as the homepage, acting more as a gateway in to these other apps than anything el se. We would be in charge of our own sections and it'd be awesome because we're all great at everything we do and we're all really great people! My hypothesis is many things aren't getting done with the website because we all just really can't be bothered getting consensus on the mailing list. We're impulsive creative people who just want to burst with energy and do something immediately without having to talk about it and justify it first. Consensus Democracy has worked great for the framework but maybe not for the site. What do you think? Can I get a consensus on this? — Jenna Get the best selection of online sites here. Click Here to check them out! http://click.lavabit.com/ki3fjboh1at1j78grodt3ognyxtbqnur6gypm4ruhg1jdusgqdzb/ ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org (mailto:Camping-list@rubyforge.org) http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
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Thank you for the kind words that are much appreciated. Thank you also for adding a lot of stuff to Chill which could be another very interesting add-on to camping and in general interested to anyone looking to try/build a project with couchDB. I think you are totally right on having sections maintained by several people and, somehow, if you want a feature or section for the site to get people to do it and not just bring on a wish list :) All the projects/sections can be easily added on a page in the official website with links to the relevant apps/sections. With the free hosting it will be quick to test/have like any camping app running live in few minutes. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com wrote: Most excellent news! :D — Jenna On Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 10:03 PM, Isak Andersson wrote: This would be great! I think I'm gonna host a development blog for the game I'm working on David's hosting service. But that will be a while from now so I'll create something else that's cool. PS. I'll work my ass off to have the first screencast done on tuesday! Cheers! Isak Andersson Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com skrev: So here we are, talking about the website again. Here's my thinking: David Costa's nearly got that neat camping app hosting thing working, which is *amazingly awesome* and we love him so much! People have all sorts of interesting ideas for things the camping site could do and have - lists of apps made in camping, wikis, forums, live chats where you're all a little spider in a sink and you can run around with your mouse and say things, text adventures, screencast theatres, interactive tutorials, book viewers, etc. What if we all just make a cool thing, and put it on David's cool hosting, and then we can all just run our own little sections of camping, like a little tent village with lots of homes which all have their own unique flavour. We could sort something out to have unified navigation menus, and have a simple app (or static page) to serve as the homepage, acting more as a gateway in to these other apps than anything el se. We would be in charge of our own sections and it'd be awesome because we're all great at everything we do and we're all really great people! My hypothesis is many things aren't getting done with the website because we all just really can't be bothered getting consensus on the mailing list. We're impulsive creative people who just want to burst with energy and do something immediately without having to talk about it and justify it first. Consensus Democracy has worked great for the framework but maybe not for the site. What do you think? Can I get a consensus on this? — Jenna Get the best selection of online sites here. Click Here to check them out! http://click.lavabit.com/ki3fjboh1at1j78grodt3ognyxtbqnur6gypm4ruhg1jdusgqdzb/ ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
