FWIW ...
I looked at ROR about a year back for engoi. I thought it was kind of
shiny, but not particularly flexible, and the unclear status of
unicode support in Ruby made it all a no-no as far as I could tell.
Cat is still in fairly early days, and teh learning curve is tough.
But it looks well
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2006/8/7/ruby-on-rails-will-ship-with-os-x-10-5-leopard
By obsessively marketing Catalyst. Ideally build several web apps that are
really, really useful (c.f. Basecamp) market the hell out of them.
Make it really
By obsessively marketing Catalyst. Ideally build several web apps that are
really, really useful (c.f. Basecamp) market the hell out of them.
I have to use Basecamp at work. Frankly, it's a useless piece of junk.
Yes, it has some shiny AJAX crap... but it's pretty buggy. (For
example,
Simon Wilcox wrote:
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
Make it really really easy to get started for people who don't know much
perl.
Here we get into a tricky debate about ease-of-use vs flexibility and
performance. While not mutually exclusive, it is very difficult and
More of my 2 cents :)
Rails is easy because, it would appear, it
sacrifices TMTOWTDI - they lost me right there.
Yup. And from a technical standpoint, rails isn't all that good.
ActiveRecord? Great for blogs and Basecamp, bad for everything else.
Even my boss picked up on this
Jonathan Rockway wrote:
More of my 2 cents :)
Rails is easy because, it would appear, it
sacrifices TMTOWTDI - they lost me right there.
Yup. And from a technical standpoint, rails isn't all that good.
ActiveRecord? Great for blogs and Basecamp, bad for everything else.
Even my
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Brian Kirkbride wrote:
I'd rather have the design decisions for my chosen framework made in
consideration of the pragmatic than the marketing side of things.
Actually Rails is an emergent framework that's been rolled out from
Basecamp. That's why it has functionality holes,
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Matt S Trout wrote:
Point out that everybody on http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/wiki/LiveApplications
disagrees :)
Wow, another invisible wiki page. Why isn't that linked directly and
prominently off the Catalyst homepage ?
How do I get a login to add a site to that page, or
Simon Wilcox wrote:
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Matt S Trout wrote:
Point out that everybody on
http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/wiki/LiveApplications
disagrees :)
Wow, another invisible wiki page. Why isn't that linked directly and
prominently off the Catalyst homepage ?
It's linked off the wiki
etc. Does the Comprehensive Ruby Archive Network have that? :)
Do you mean the Comprehensive Ruby Archive Portal?
Sorry, couldn't resist :-)
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(Think about all the infrastructure that CPAN gives you --
local mirrors, CPAN testers, rt.cpan.org, mailing lists, etc.
Does the Comprehensive Ruby Archive Network have that? :)
There’s RubyForge, though, which offers some services for
On 09/08/06, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By obsessively marketing Catalyst. Ideally build several web apps that are really, really useful (c.f. Basecamp) market the hell out of them%])Pretty much, Basecamp is like every other piece of proprietary
software -- they already have
On 8/9/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Point out that everybody on http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/wiki/LiveApplications
disagrees :)
I haven't stumbled upon this page before and I'm sort of amazed. I
never thought there were so many public facing sites using Catalyst. I
really think
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On 8/8/06, Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2006/8/7/ruby-on-rails-will-ship-with-os-x-10-5-leopardIt's been no secret that Apple is held in very high regard by the Rails
community. Every single Rails Core contributer is running on Apple and
the vast
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 12:33 -0400, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2006/8/7/ruby-on-rails-will-ship-with-os-x-10-5-leopard
If the experience of Perl being shipped with OS X is any indication,
about 30 seconds after the release of Leopard they can expect to see
hundreds
Cat probably needs to get more popular and show off Apple in more
marketing material, e.g. screencasts, etc.
Warning: OT rant ahead :(
Personally, I'd like to see *less* Apple in screencasts. I've been
burned by Apple one too many times to want to ever hear of their OS again.
Examples:
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