in,
and I stand by that too. That this is the biggest reason to adopt
Perl 6 is something I never said, and if you had the impression
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* Kiki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-11 12:50]:
So you got me looking into C::G and yes, I'm too lazy to dig
into the docs. Anyways short question to which I found no
obvious answer:
Can C::G syntax express just an array of arrays (used to
populate data tables via DBIC schema):
[
[
effect.)
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HTTP engine is no mean
feat, but writing a solid embedded database engine isn’t either,
and both have been done.
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* Justin Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-22 03:20]:
In this particular case, Template::Toolkit uses exception
objects, which seem to get completely eaten somewhere between
getting thrown and caught by eval{}. The $@ variable is the
empty string, in this case, and it's completely impossible
starting with Catalyst:
perl -MCPAN -e 'CPAN::Shell-install(CPAN::Shell-r(/^Catalyst/))';
Nope – I didn’t know about this either. Neat!
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* apv [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-30 08:55]:
Where should I start looking?
HEAD $test_server_uri 1
HEAD $apache_uri 2
diff -u 1 2
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* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-31 17:20]:
This qualifies as a worst-practice, but you can use the
abbreviation pragma:
use abbreviation qw(Very::Long::ClassName::Here);
my $obj = V::L::CN::Here-new;# same
Ugh. Use a sane module instead:
use aliased
, not addresses.
Of course, if you want to provide a custom lookup mechanism for
your UUIDs, that’s your prerogative.
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ones, when appropriate), then you won’t have problems like that.
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of the potential for abuse.
You *shouldn’t* even want it – I use an aggregator to read feeds
precisely because there is no “design” in them, just pure
unadulterated content, and most aggregator users feel the same
way.
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for which
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* Kevin Monceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-14 21:20]:
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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* Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-21 19:25]:
Long live EU::MM!
You also enjoy torturing Schwern, don’t you?
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* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-22 20:00]:
cpan My::Module Another::Module
is the correct invocation.
Or you can pass `-i` to be explicit:
cpan -i My::Module Another::Module
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, only the front page of the site has a language-less URI,
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might bookmark will always have a language code, so on subsequent
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* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-30 03:20]:
If you think about it, this is necessary because you can change
headers or the body at any time in the request cycle... and you
can't unsend data.
So what’s `finalize_headers` do?
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* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-03 09:10]:
As a last resort, if you want the method to be called the first
time begin() is called, you can simply remove your begin from
the symbol table the first time through:
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...
undef $PACKAGE::{begin}
}
Uh… you’re
to get around this?
args.title.replace( '\'', '\'\\\'' )
Untested.
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Because he can’t distinguish between “no longer valid” and “has
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is a central notion in REST.
(Ack. I don’t know how to satisfactorily summarise the subject in
short. Which just means, of course, that as much understanding as
I may have, it is haphazard and incoherent. Need more study…)
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that references the
category.
You can fetch the entire hierarchy with a single query:
http://www.developer.com/db/article.php/3517366
See also http://www.google.com/search?q=nested+set in general.
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if an alternative syntax were available that
was much easier to use for trivial display logic than firing up
the Turing-complete gun.
[1]: I pulled those numbers out of somewhere, purely on the basis
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ready-built VM images, awesome. The more the
merrier.
See also: Elaine’s Law.
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* Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-14 20:15]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Ash Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-14 17:40]:
For vim I use the MiniBuffExplorer plugin and split windows
- give you tab like interface, and is faster than gvim7's
own tabs IMO.
You are a man
://www.friday.com/bbum/2006/11/09/bbedit-vs-textmate-the-editor-wars-revisited/
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* Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-15 12:25]:
Plugin::Singleton considered a really, really, really bad idea.
Don't use it.
While I’m in link-lobbing mode:
http://steve.yegge.googlepages.com/singleton-considered-stupid
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slow.
No, they will bitch that the *application* is slow. Customers
couldn’t give a flying monkey about how you implement it. And
the framework is almost assuredly not going to be where you’re
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* Cory Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-17 03:20]:
On 11/16/06, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I say I'm afraid this pasta tastes so awful I just can't
eat it, would you respond well at least [the cook] did
prepare something! maybe you should stop mouthing off and do
it better
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* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-17 06:45]:
On Thursday 16 November 2006 20:08, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
A singleton is nothing but a global variable, except the
identifier comes from the class namespace rather than the
variable namespace. Put it in a global variable already
not reading it at all. Apparently
he hates the Singleton pattern so much that he fails to see
this.)
I’m not sure I read the same article as you.
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* Daniel McBrearty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-17 22:30]:
On 11/17/06, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Daniel McBrearty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-17 12:00]:
A global is something that is in the global namespace.
A singleton isn't, any more than other class is. You have to
import
of the coder, not the language.
Singletons tie you into an app design even tighter than global
variables can. That may not always be a bad idea, but I would
think it is something you would only use in extremely rare cases.
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* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-22 17:50]:
You would never call a class method directly like that (because
it won't work), so you shouldn't do that with UNIVERSAL::can or
UNIVERSAL::isa.
For completeness’ sake, there is exactly one acceptable use of
`UNIVERSAL::can` as a
=ext
approach because there’s no difference in information conveyed
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I think.)
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Yes, yes, PHP blows. We already established that.
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* Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-12-05 08:40]:
What wiki do you recommend? (in perl or php) I have tried
TWiki, but it has some bugs that I don't know how to solve.
I think they all suck. :-)
I’d probably try PhpWiki first.
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* Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-12-05 11:45]:
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I think they all suck. :-)
I’d probably try PhpWiki first.
Ok, thanks. Do you want to say that all of them have big bugs?
No, I’m just saying all of them having things I dislike a lot as
a user
-ins for Catalyst?
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with generally glacial development
and a nearly comatose community… sigh. It’s less annoying than
many alternatives, but you wouldn’t know that just from looking
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* Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-12-06 00:15]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-12-05 22:10]:
You need to escape , , , , and '.
s[(['])]{ '#' . ord( $1 ) . ';' }ge;
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Right. But don't do that (roll your own). Use the HTML
* John Siracusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-12-06 03:15]:
My stance has always been that I don't mind code in templates
so long as the sole purpose of that code is to layout and
format the data.
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* Steve Sabljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-12-08 04:25]:
What is the recommended Ajax framework for Catalyst these days
anyway? Is there a DeFacto standard?
Take a look at jQuery. I just made two new converts two or three
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* Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-12-13 18:40]:
I can't imagine life before $FindBin::Bin
Despite the fact that it’s perverse and horribly broken [1]?
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timing, you might even break the
whole thing alltogether.
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language has a different
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* Will Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-01-08 18:50]:
I want to conver a number to binary.
my $binary = sprintf '%b', $number;
What does Math::BigInt have to do with anything, and what does
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to another templating engine and/or ORM than out of switching
the framework, whose total performance impact is negligible. So
I don’t know what the point of benchmarking frameworks against
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* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-01-18 17:55]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
Eh? Apache doesn’t dispatch anything unless maybe you’re
talking about mod_perl
If that's true, then GETting http://mysite.com/foo/bar/baz.html
would get a file named $DOCROOT/foo\/bar\/baz.html.
Considering
* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-01-18 19:40]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
Are we done splitting this hair now or do you need more
clarification?
Depends on what you mean by methods:
foo.pl:
use MyApp;
print MyApp-foo($ENV{QUERY_STRING});
bar.pl:
use MyApp;
print MyApp-bar($ENV
provides a way to dispatch to a piece
of my own code, then yes, absolutely. Apache + mod_perl is a
reasonable benchmark candidate, f.ex.
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-hour days.
Sleep deprivation when well rested is actually documented to
have a bunch of psychotropic effects including mild euphoria.
Anyone who has stayed up long enough to get a weird sense of
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it’s still a config file, it’s obviously a broken one.
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advent calendar is probably a good gauge for that.
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that are concise and simple, but falls back to Perl
for anything beyond that. (And I’m gonna do something about that
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* Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-02-12 11:45]:
On 10 Feb 2007, at 08:30, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
Actually, 302 means “repeat the same request at this other
URI” whereas 303 means “please retrieve this other URI using
GET.” The difference is that strictly according to RFC, 302
means
typing).
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performance
Arguably Java is faster.
- has stood the test of time
Check.
Basically, this is a good list if you want to argue “Perl vs.
another contemporary dynamic language,” but it makes little
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* Ian Docherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-02-14 16:40]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Will Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-02-12 21:25]:
my $column = $c-model(myDB::Author)-get_column('last_name');
while(my $name = $column-next){
$lname[$i] = $name;
$i = $i + 1;
}
Ugh. Use `push
Javascript or meta refresh or whatever in order to
alert the user to the logout, but logging them out MUST happen
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processing for anonymous
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what I can tell.
However, C::Session::State::Cookie consists of 100 lines of
pretty simple code; just read the source. A patch to support
multiple different cookie names would be quite easy to implement.
(Or a subclass, failing that.)
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in the CGI and a Catalyst
base controller being released on CPAN?
Sometimes, there is no code to do something because no code is
needed to do it. :-)
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if the image you are
generating is a thumbnail, f.ex.
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cache thrashing, esp. in multi-
processor systems.
I don’t know if it does upload buffer or how it stacks up against
the competition.
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* Jeff Chimene [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-13 19:20]:
Where is the class method documented?
http://search.cpan.org/perldoc/Template::Plugin::Class
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, but it
seems those plans fizzled out. Have they?
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they are?
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present a reason that convinces me and which I feel
would be a good thing to keep in mind for my own apps in the
future, then I might be inclined to dig in and find out, because
I’ll learn something for myself in the process.
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, as I am
about to go through and add '| html' to damn near every
variable in my templates.
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Template-Stash-HTML-Entities/
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* Danny Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-26 11:25]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Danny Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-26 04:45]:
Quick question: at around 15 minutes in (while discussing TT)
you mentioned the ability to set html scrubbing at a global
level, and that there is something on CPAN
. A quality module is one which does that and
yet provides for less ordinary scenarios without resorting to
“copy-paste and tweak to taste.”
Anyway, not to get stuck on soapboxes here. If that module works
for you, fine. :-)
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to remote interactions.
That is a nightmare to maintain. Make your immediate dependencies
explicit.
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* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-27 02:40]:
For example, when I want to find all the modules I'm using, I
usually do something like this:
grep -r '^use '
As a sidenote, do check out App::Ack, which installs the `ack`
tool. Much nicer than grep(1) for source code.
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* Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-27 15:10]:
So, what do people do - do you send 303/307's correctly or
just default to 302 behaviour?
I send 303, unless the HTTP request uses HTTP 1.0, in which case
the client sees a 302 instead.
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