Re: [cayugabirds-l] ... management proposals re: Mute Swan.

2014-01-26 Thread John and Sue Gregoire
Concur with Dave and Fritzie but I would be more sanguine if I knew that NYSDEC 
had
first investigated other attempts at controlling Mutes and built their program 
on
that knowledge. Rhode Island had what's best described as an infestation in the 
late
60s/early 70s. By 1976 they had a long term plan in place and were 
oiling/addling
eggs. I've never seen any results or other data on the project; have no idea if 
it
continued. Ditto for the Chesapeake Bay region which has a more recent problem 
with
Mutes. Coupled with Snow Geese, Mutes have eaten the eel grass and wild rice in 
Bay
feeder rivers to near extirpation.
John
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On Sat, January 25, 2014 21:59, John and Fritzie Blizzard wrote:
> I agree with Dave Nutter. I saw the petition. Wouldn't sign it. EVER.
>
> Remember that snow geese were more or less protected for yrs.. They are far 
> more
> wary than Canadas so the extra hunting season for them doesn't do much to 
> diminish
> their numbers. Now they are an absolute plague, esp. to rice farmers in the 
> south,
> to say nothing of the irreparable damage to the fragile Arctic tundra which 
> will not
> renew in the lifetime of our grandchildren if no snows ever return there. It 
> is
> there that many other waterbirds, perhaps in the millions, some on endangered 
> lists,
> return to breed & raise their young  hoping to find enough food & shelter 
> not
> eaten or destroyed by the snows.
>
> Hunters now have an extended season to take snows, until 15 April  ... the 
> bag limit
> is 25 a day with no possession limit. With over a million snows just in our 
> Atlantic
> flyway I see no hope of lowering their numbers which back about 20 yrs. ago 
> were a
> more manageable 50,000 birds.
>
> The mute swans are doing similar damage to ponds, lakes & waterways where 
> other
> creatures depend on what the mutes are destroying. Look at the map of NY & 
> see the
> mute density areas. Other states are having the same big problems with mutes. 
> They
> don't have to be teased or aggravated to be mean & aggressive. Since they have
> killed grown men think what they can do to a child with those large, strong 
> wings as
> well as with their powerful bills. There is also concern now about what 
> diseases
> they are carrying that are harmful to other forms of wildlife.
>
> I, too, think they are beautiful, just as these petition pushers do. The 
> problem is
> that they are like the protectors of rattlesnakes. They have never considered 
> or
> encountered the bad side. My rant!
>
> Fritzie
>
>
> Dave Nutter wrote on 1/25/2014: I trust the managers on this one.
>
> On Jan 25, 2014, at 08:12 AM, Eric Banford  wrote:
>
> So the plan is to eradicate the Mute Swan in NY? I know it is invasive, but 
> that
> seems a bit harsh. I just got this petition against this plan, in case anyone 
> is
> interested:
>
>
> 
> https://www.change.org/petitions/new-york-state-department-of-environmental-conservation-stop-new-york-state-s-swan-killing-plan
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
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[cayugabirds-l] Redheads

2014-01-26 Thread Donna Scott
100s of REDHEADS in long narrow raft, swimming swiftly from north to south, 
near shore, off Lansing Station Rd. Lansing. 
Maybe end up by Myers?

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[cayugabirds-l] Probable Snowy Owl - Downtown Ithaca

2014-01-26 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
A friend of mine called me just a few minutes ago to say that he had just seen 
a SNOWY OWL (around 9:00am) in flight being mobbed by about a hundred crows. He 
described it as being a very large non-hawk raptor, with long rounded wings, 
all white, not much of a tail, no obvious neck, large head. He described the 
moment for him as "oh my gosh, that's not a hawk…that's a Snowy Owl! My friend 
was traveling along North Plain Street, on the West side of the open park which 
is the remnants of the DEC superfund cleanup site, across the street from the 
North side of GIAC. The owl was flying above the treetops across the East side 
of that park, headed South. After nearly colliding with another car, my friend 
pulled over to get a better look, but could not relocate the bird, but could 
still see all of the crows in the area which had been in pursuit of the owl. He 
said that the owl was completely surrounded by the crows when he first saw it.

Keep your eyes open for a large white raptor in the downtown Ithaca area!

Sincerely,
Chris T-H
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[cayugabirds-l] Injured/ill Snowy Owl Seneca Falls

2014-01-26 Thread Dave K
Sunday 10:15AM Ridge Rd. 1/2 mile South of the intersection of 
Ridge/Hoster/Kuneytown Rds...just South of large silos on East side of 
Ridge.on snow very close to road.
Alive but appears injured or sick. 
  
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[cayugabirds-l] Fwd: Interesting gull - Syr Inner Harbor

2014-01-26 Thread tigger64
The photos don't do it justice but the key points are: large size, uniform dark 
coloration, folded wingtips concolor with the rest of the bird.  Possibilities:

Glaucous Gull - large size, concolor wingtips, but darkness of bird seems too 
much for the species. Patterning on bill seems wrong to me - black is smudgy 
and not boldly-defined.
Nelson's Gull hybrid - not what I expect from Nelson's, but ?
Other hybrids might be considered, mainly Glaucous-winged x Herring, GW x 
Western, or GW x Glaucous.
Glaucous-winged seemed a good fit actually, but should have an all-black bill.
Glaucous-winged x Herring also seems possible.

In some of the photos the folded wing-tips are edge-on and look darker than in 
real life. It is a very single-color bird.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22183060@N08/sets/72157640164475123/

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[cayugabirds-l] David Cup news

2014-01-26 Thread Dave Nutter
To all David Cup participants and bemused onlookers, past, current, & future:* I made 2014 tables for the major categories. New categories can also be added. * Only a few people have started filling out 2014 info so far. Please join us. * I moved all the 2013 tables to a new page "2013 Cup" accessed in the double row table below the 2014 stuff.* Please finalize your 2013 info. * Very few people entered a number for Yard List, or Town of Ithaca, or Town of Lansing, or Town of Dryden, or Tompkins County, or Office List, or Luddite List. I think these should be opened up retroactively to participants (opnions, Cuppers?). How many species did others find in these places & ways? * Meena says she can't add her info to the wiki site despite having the password. Do others have this problem? * Who is administrator of the wiki site, anyway? We need your help to add new Cuppers and to help Meena.http://cayugabirds.pbworks.com/w/page/6630177/FrontPage--Dave Nutter
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Injured/ill Snowy Owl Seneca Falls

2014-01-26 Thread John Cancalosi
Pelea just captured by rehabers. Apparently injured near its eye.

On Sunday, January 26, 2014, Dave K  wrote:

> Sunday 10:15AM Ridge Rd. 1/2 mile South of the intersection of
> Ridge/Hoster/Kuneytown Rds...just South of large silos on East side of
> Ridge.on snow very close to road.
> Alive but appears injured or sick.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Injured/ill Snowy Owl Seneca Falls

2014-01-26 Thread John Cancalosi
I have my phone set to spanish and when i typed snowy it changed it to
pelea of all things and i didnt catch it. So the owl is rescued in any case.

On Sunday, January 26, 2014, Dave K  wrote:

> Sunday 10:15AM Ridge Rd. 1/2 mile South of the intersection of
> Ridge/Hoster/Kuneytown Rds...just South of large silos on East side of
> Ridge.on snow very close to road.
> Alive but appears injured or sick.
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[cayugabirds-l] Sumo Mallards

2014-01-26 Thread Dave K
Two drake Mallards square off  head to head like Whitetail bucks on Canoga 
Spring South of Seneca Falls. At first the male on the right has the upper hand 
but the one on the left turns it 
around.http://www.flickr.com/photos/105424358@N06/12160883403/  
  
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[cayugabirds-l] lake ice & waterfowl

2014-01-26 Thread Dave Nutter
I don't know what possessed me to walk to the lake again today, having walked both to East Shore Park and past Treman to the lake yesterday. Anyway, the ice has grown considerably, extending about 3/4 of a mile from the land at Treman's lakeshore, so today's walk was longer than I expected. I did get fine views of ducks from between houses at about #967 Taughannock Blvd, including White-winged Scoters close to shore, plus all the Mergansers, all the (usual) Aythya, and Common Goldeneyes. The few Long-tailed Ducks I saw were diving next to the ice edge in the middle of the lake. I also saw Canada Geese, the usual 3 gull species, and an immature Bald Eagle on the ice. I wasn't able to scan the whole lake and saw no grebes, loons, or coots. The only Anas I saw was a single male Mallard flying over Inlet Island. With serious cold expected to return and continue for awhile, and the ice shelf already so big, I wonder how far it will grow, or if this could even be a rare year that the lake freezes over.  --Dave Nutter
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