Re: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park

2014-08-22 Thread Anne Clark 
Border collies, coyote effigies, etc can indeed move them, but temporarily to 
somewhere else local.  This effort looks ready to replicate the eternal cycle 
of geese in Binghamton that move/ are moved from Otsiningo Park to BCC to 
Binghamton University playing fields and back.  At least we provide them with a 
little exercise.

I wonder what would happen if a bunch of bushes in planters were installed.  I 
have never seen flocks of geese resting in a complex bushy habitat.  These 
could be moved if needed, but might break up the unbroken appearance of the 
groupy, poopy greensward.   Probably wouldn't work for the people.

Anne

On Aug 22, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Donna Scott wrote:

> The public users of Myers Park (and the Lansing Highway Dept.) would balk at 
> leaving the grass 9 inches long!  We may not like it, but the culture is such 
> that Myers Park grass has to be mowed short.
> I think they will have to go with 15-18 inch high "goose fences" and Border 
> Collies.
>  
> But then maybe all these geese will end up in Stewart Park where it is 
> already "poopy" enough!
>  
> Donna Scott
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Schmitt
> To: Meena Madhav Haribal ; CAYUGABIRDS-L ; Donna Lee Scott
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park
> 
> The large airports have learned to stop cutting the grass so short.  I 
> believe over 9  inches discourages them.   But that goes contrary to the 
> American ideal, eh?
>  
> Paul Schmitt
>  
> From: Meena Madhav Haribal
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 6:41 PM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L ; Donna Lee Scott
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park
>  
> I have not read the article, but I feel lawns are "nuisance".
> So if you have lawn then the geese love to be on the lawn!
>  
> Just my thoughts.
>  
> Meena
> Meena Haribal
> Ithaca NY 14850
> 42.429007,-76.47111
> http://haribal.org/
> http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
> Ithaca area moths: http://tinyurl.com/kn6q2p4
> Dragonfly book sample pages: http://www.haribal.org/140817samplebook.pdf
>  
>  
>  
> From: bounce-117763609-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
>  on behalf of Donna Scott 
> 
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 4:58 PM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park
>  
> See article about "nuisance" of CANADA GEESE in the mowed lawn areas at 
> Lansing's Myers Park.
> http://www.lansingstar.com/around-town/10960-goose-poop-threatens-myers-park-attendance
>  
> Members of the informal group Friends of Salt Point (FOSP) discussed this 
> issue a little at yesterday's regular meeting with Town of Lansing's 
> Recreation Director, Steve Colt. Steve is a member of Friends of Salt Point 
> and is looking for humane ways to "get the geese to go somewhere else".
> He has found a fair amount of information on this topic that he shared with 
> Candace Cornell, me, and the other members of FOSP who are all Lansing 
> residents.
>  
> Donna Scott
>  
> Lansing Station Road
> Lansing, NY
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park

2014-08-22 Thread Donna Scott 
The public users of Myers Park (and the Lansing Highway Dept.) would balk at 
leaving the grass 9 inches long!  We may not like it, but the culture is such 
that Myers Park grass has to be mowed short.
I think they will have to go with 15-18 inch high "goose fences" and Border 
Collies.

But then maybe all these geese will end up in Stewart Park where it is already 
"poopy" enough!

Donna Scott
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Schmitt 
  To: Meena Madhav Haribal ; CAYUGABIRDS-L ; Donna Lee Scott 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park


  The large airports have learned to stop cutting the grass so short.  I 
believe over 9  inches discourages them.   But that goes contrary to the 
American ideal, eh? 

  Paul Schmitt

  From: Meena Madhav Haribal 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 6:41 PM
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L ; Donna Lee Scott 
  Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park

  I have not read the article, but I feel lawns are "nuisance".

  So if you have lawn then the geese love to be on the lawn!



  Just my thoughts.



  Meena

  Meena Haribal
  Ithaca NY 14850
  42.429007,-76.47111
  http://haribal.org/
  http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
  Ithaca area moths: http://tinyurl.com/kn6q2p4
  Dragonfly book sample pages: http://www.haribal.org/140817samplebook.pdf




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  From: bounce-117763609-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Donna Scott 

  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 4:58 PM
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
  Subject: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park 

  See article about "nuisance" of CANADA GEESE in the mowed lawn areas at 
Lansing's Myers Park.
  
http://www.lansingstar.com/around-town/10960-goose-poop-threatens-myers-park-attendance

  Members of the informal group Friends of Salt Point (FOSP) discussed this 
issue a little at yesterday's regular meeting with Town of Lansing's Recreation 
Director, Steve Colt. Steve is a member of Friends of Salt Point and is looking 
for humane ways to "get the geese to go somewhere else".
  He has found a fair amount of information on this topic that he shared with 
Candace Cornell, me, and the other members of FOSP who are all Lansing 
residents.

  Donna Scott

  Lansing Station Road
  Lansing, NY 
  d...@cornell.edu
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park

2014-08-22 Thread Paul Schmitt 
The large airports have learned to stop cutting the grass so short.  I believe 
over 9  inches discourages them.   But that goes contrary to the American 
ideal, eh? 

Paul Schmitt

From: Meena Madhav Haribal 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 6:41 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L ; Donna Lee Scott 
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park

I have not read the article, but I feel lawns are "nuisance".

So if you have lawn then the geese love to be on the lawn!



Just my thoughts.



Meena

Meena Haribal
Ithaca NY 14850
42.429007,-76.47111
http://haribal.org/
http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
Ithaca area moths: http://tinyurl.com/kn6q2p4
Dragonfly book sample pages: http://www.haribal.org/140817samplebook.pdf






From: bounce-117763609-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Donna Scott 

Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 4:58 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park 

See article about "nuisance" of CANADA GEESE in the mowed lawn areas at 
Lansing's Myers Park.
http://www.lansingstar.com/around-town/10960-goose-poop-threatens-myers-park-attendance

Members of the informal group Friends of Salt Point (FOSP) discussed this issue 
a little at yesterday's regular meeting with Town of Lansing's Recreation 
Director, Steve Colt. Steve is a member of Friends of Salt Point and is looking 
for humane ways to "get the geese to go somewhere else".
He has found a fair amount of information on this topic that he shared with 
Candace Cornell, me, and the other members of FOSP who are all Lansing 
residents.

Donna Scott

Lansing Station Road
Lansing, NY 
d...@cornell.edu
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park

2014-08-22 Thread Meena Madhav Haribal 
I have not read the article, but I feel lawns are "nuisance".

So if you have lawn then the geese love to be on the lawn!



Just my thoughts.



Meena

Meena Haribal
Ithaca NY 14850
42.429007,-76.47111
http://haribal.org/
http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/
Ithaca area moths: http://tinyurl.com/kn6q2p4
Dragonfly book sample pages: http://www.haribal.org/140817samplebook.pdf




From: bounce-117763609-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Donna Scott 

Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 4:58 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park

See article about "nuisance" of CANADA GEESE in the mowed lawn areas at 
Lansing's Myers Park.
http://www.lansingstar.com/around-town/10960-goose-poop-threatens-myers-park-attendance

Members of the informal group Friends of Salt Point (FOSP) discussed this issue 
a little at yesterday's regular meeting with Town of Lansing's Recreation 
Director, Steve Colt. Steve is a member of Friends of Salt Point and is looking 
for humane ways to "get the geese to go somewhere else".
He has found a fair amount of information on this topic that he shared with 
Candace Cornell, me, and the other members of FOSP who are all Lansing 
residents.

Donna Scott

Lansing Station Road
Lansing, NY
d...@cornell.edu
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[cayugabirds-l] goose poop an issue at interior of Myers Park

2014-08-22 Thread Donna Scott 
See article about "nuisance" of CANADA GEESE in the mowed lawn areas at 
Lansing's Myers Park.
http://www.lansingstar.com/around-town/10960-goose-poop-threatens-myers-park-attendance

Members of the informal group Friends of Salt Point (FOSP) discussed this issue 
a little at yesterday's regular meeting with Town of Lansing's Recreation 
Director, Steve Colt. Steve is a member of Friends of Salt Point and is looking 
for humane ways to "get the geese to go somewhere else".
He has found a fair amount of information on this topic that he shared with 
Candace Cornell, me, and the other members of FOSP who are all Lansing 
residents.

Donna Scott

Lansing Station Road
Lansing, NY 
d...@cornell.edu
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[cayugabirds-l] Mt Pleasant Bobolink flock this am

2014-08-22 Thread Marie P. Read 
Around 9:30 am Friday I found yet another large Bobolink flock in the 
switchgrass field opposite and east (downhill) of the observatory on Mt 
Pleasant Rd. I'm estimating about 60 birds. I say "another" because I have not 
noticed any in that field for at least a week, when there was a big flock there.

Other birds of note:
Eastern Blue birds 2 adults and 2 fledglings.

A total of five American Kestrels on the wires along the radio tower road. At 
first there two other birds marauding as kestrels on the wires too, but they 
didn't look quite right. So when I took a binocular look I realized both were 
Northern Flickers, perching just like kestrels. Shortly, a real kestrel flew in 
chased by a crow. The first flicker disappeared immediately, I know not where. 
The kestrel strafed the second flicker, which gave an unbelievably loud shriek, 
dropped off the wire and flew rapidly back to the woods to safety!

"And that's the news from Mt Pleasant…my home town"

Marie


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[cayugabirds-l] Lindsay-Parsons this morning: big flocks of Eastern Kingbirds

2014-08-22 Thread Benjamin Freeman 
Not much sign of fall migration at Lindsay Parsons this morning, with the
notable exception of Eastern Kingbirds. Around 60 were in a loose flock
feeding on fruit (mostly dogwood berries) in the NW section of the
preserve. Very cool to see these birds making the transition from asocial
insectivores (breeding) to social frugivores (fall migration and winter).

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Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY, USA
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Black cardinal

2014-08-22 Thread Kevin J. McGowan 
It's worth noting that the bases of the red body feathers are blackish too.  
Actually, they're about half black, so when a bird is in heavy body molt it can 
appear blackish.

Kevin

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From: bounce-117758737-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-117758737-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Anne Marie 
Johnson
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:38 PM
To: Carl J. Steckler; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black cardinal

Sounds like it might be a juvenile going through its first molt. Sometimes they 
lose all their head feathers at once, and the skin under the feathers of 
cardinals is black. It's not all that uncommon with cardinals and blue jays. 
You can find more information here:
http://feederwatch.org/learn/unusual-birds/#bald-headed-birds

Anne Marie Johnson

On 8/21/2014 11:52 AM, Carl Steckler wrote:
> This morning I had a very unusual bird at my feeders. It was a 
> Cardinal with a red head and black mask, but the body was black. By 
> the time I went to get my camera it was gone. I have set up my 
> wildlife camera in hopes that it will come back and I can get a photo of it.
> Has anyone else seen this bird?
> Carl Steckler
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Common Nighthawks, Cass Park, Ithaca

2014-08-22 Thread Gary Kohlenberg 
I was at Stewart Park the same time Dave was across the inlet. I saw two 
Nighthawks over the golf course that flew south. My suspicion was they picked 
up from Renwick Woods to continue their journey, but reading Dave's post makes 
me think they spent some time feeding the flats as my sighting was slightly 
past Dave's in time. They may have already been up and flying around when I 
spotted them.
Gary


On Aug 21, 2014, at 9:55 PM, "Dave Nutter" 
mailto:nutter.d...@me.com>> wrote:

This evening between 7 and 7:21pm from the Cayuga Waterfront Trail in Cass Park 
I saw at least 3 and possibly as many as 6 COMMON NIGHTHAWKS. The first which I 
saw, only a few minutes after I began my quest, was distant to my east over the 
flats of Ithaca. Surprisingly, it was flying directly north with steady 
wingbeats, which is nominally typical of gulls in the evening, but in the scope 
I could tell it not only had extremely narrow pointed wings (narrower than a 
Ring-billed Gull), but it was brown (not immature gull- or Black Tern-colored), 
it took extremely high and deep wingbeats (unlike gulls or even terns), and it 
occasionally rolled a bit to one side or the other (which gulls and terns don't 
do in my experience). I lost track of it when it had gone so far to my left 
that I had to change my stance. Obviously it was not migrating, which is the 
usual circumstance I have seen nighthawks flying straight and steady. I figured 
it must be headed toward the lake or over nearby woods to feed. A few minutes 
later through binoculars I glimpsed another more distant bird to the east with 
long, narrow, pointed wings in irregular flight, but I was unable to find it 
through my scope. This happened again a bit later to the northeast. Several 
minutes I saw 2 birds to my northeast, but closer, over the Farmers' Market, 
and I managed to get one in my scope for a more satisfying view of the long 
notched tail and the white band across the primaries, plus some of the typical 
extremely erratic foraging flight as it worked its way south past me. When I 
stepped back from the scope I saw that it's companion still traveled nearby, 
with the same size, shape, and flight. The last Common Nighthawk I saw, also in 
the scope less than 3 minutes later, followed a similar southbound path passing 
somewhat to my east. Even if the first directly-northbound bird completely 
changed its direction when it found company or food, and if the two poorly seen 
birds both went north then turned around, I still saw at least 3 Common 
Nighthawks this evening, because I don't think either of the southbound pair is 
likely to have snuck north again that quickly.

Another unusual sighting for Cass Park was a SCARLET TANAGER atop a willow 
along the Inlet. It was a male in green and black non-breeding plumage.

This evening I only found one OSPREY by Cass Park, perched in a tree along the 
Farmers' Market, but there were 2 Ospreys perched in a dead tree along Jetty 
Woods, presumably birds from the nest platform north of Treman Marina. I 
counted over a hundred DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANTS perched in the trees of Jetty 
Woods, and I saw at least 20 CASPIAN TERNS this evening, half of them 
southbound in groups of 3 and 7, the remainder resting on and near the base of 
the red lighthouse.

--Dave Nutter

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