RE: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info
I have my Great Great Grandmother’s diaries. She was Carrie Coleman and with her son Myron R. Coleman owned and ran the Coleman Hotel at Kidders, N.Y. She wrote that Cayuga Lake completely froze over in 1912. Then She wrote Feb. 4, 1912 – Cayuga Lake has not frozen over since 1885. She continued: Feb. 12, 1912 – A great many people are skating and walking on the lake. “ 14 – At least 200 people were here at Kidders on the ice. Charlie White (Sheldrake) is out with his iceboat. Two other iceboats and many skaters came over from the other side. “ 16 - Hundreds crossing the lake – Skating and walking. Two students were drowned a mile north of King Ferry. In the first 10 days of March she wrote of many in iceboats, skating and walking back and forth from both sides. Some came from Auburn or Ithaca on the train to King Ferry, then skated or rode on iceboats over the lake to Kidders. On St. Patrick’s Day, after five weeks of wonderful fun on the lake the ice broke up and moved north. With much ice moving up and down the lake as the wind changed, there were great fields of ice piling up on docks and boat houses. Going back to the year 1885, Carrie Coleman wrote in her diary : Feb. 17 , 1885 – The lake is frozen over. Myron (son) skated over to King Ferry after the mail. Many people skating on the lake. Mar. 4, - Thawed and injured the skating. No wind for iceboats. “ 5, - Ice is frozen over again. We all went out on the iceboat. Not much wind. “ 6 – The ice roared and groaned as it froze harder. “ 7 – A party of young men came from Auburn then over on the iceboat. “11 – Myron skated over after the mail. Then he and Fred (Wyer) skated to Aurora and back. “13 – Everyday people are on the lake. The iceboat sailed splendidly. Everyone was riding. I went over to meet the train and had a glorious sail. Mar. 22 - Men came from across the lake in a sleigh and horses and later went back. “27 – Teams crossing on the ice. Saw a horse and sleigh going to Ithaca – about in the middle of the lake. The iceboats flew about and people skating. April 1 - Mild and the ice is getting unsafe. Naomi Brewer (Sheldrake) 7214 Wyers Pt Rd. Ovid, N.Y. From: bounce-112542730-9392...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-112542730-9392...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:29 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info Photos of the 1912 event show crowds of people out on the frozen lake; even horses. But two Cornell students skating near King Ferry were drowned when the ice gave way beneath them. Here's the Cornell Daily Sun article: http://cdsun.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/cornell?a=d http://cdsun.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/cornell?a=dd=CDS19120219.2.1 d=CDS19120219.2.1 -Geo Kloppel On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk l...@cornell.edu wrote: I wonder for how long. The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and then winds break up the ice. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html The Mail Archive http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Surfbirds http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info
Photos of the 1912 event show crowds of people out on the frozen lake; even horses. But two Cornell students skating near King Ferry were drowned when the ice gave way beneath them. Here's the Cornell Daily Sun article: http://cdsun.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/cornell?a=dd=CDS19120219.2.1 -Geo Kloppel On Feb 9, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk l...@cornell.edu wrote: I wonder for how long. The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and then winds break up the ice. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info
Wow. That is really interesting. It shows how much colder it was in the 1800s and very early 1900s. It is almost unheard of for any of the Finger Lake to freeze over today. The above period was during the end of the Little Ice Age before the early 20th century warm-up. On Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:50 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk l...@cornell.edu wrote: I wonder for how long. The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and then winds break up the ice. When we went down to the lakeshore Saturday morning (we’re just north of the village of Aurora), the shore was covered with shards of ice, clear as glass—and then the water was indeed frozen over, but just a thin sheet, about 100 yards out. From:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Fast Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:19 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info A. R. Cahn in The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life. Auk 29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 1816, 1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912. A couple of these were thought due to volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world. Steve Fast -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info
In 1970, I worked as the class clerk for the Cornell class of 1910. One alumnus told me that, while a student, he had skated the length of Cayuga Lake to visit with his Dad. He returned, also by skates, the next day. He said the lake didn't stay frozen for very many days, and had failed to freeze so completely any other year he was in college. Sarah Fern david nicosia daven1...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow. That is really interesting. It shows how much colder it was in the 1800s and very early 1900s. It is almost unheard of for any of the Finger Lake to freeze over today. The above period was during the end of the Little Ice Age before the early 20th century warm-up. On Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:50 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk l...@cornell.edu wrote: I wonder for how long. The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and then winds break up the ice. When we went down to the lakeshore Saturday morning (we’re just north of the village of Aurora), the shore was covered with shards of ice, clear as glass—and then the water was indeed frozen over, but just a thin sheet, about 100 yards out. From:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Fast Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:19 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info A. R. Cahn in The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life. Auk 29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 1816, 1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912. A couple of these were thought due to volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world. Steve Fast -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info
That looks like Cayuga Lake froze completely at intervals of 20, 10, 30, 19, 9, 20, and 8 years between when the white settlers arrived and when that article was published in 1912. It would be surprising if there were then a gap of over a century.--Dave NutterOn Feb 09, 2014, at 09:18 PM, Susan Fast sustf...@yahoo.com wrote:A. R. Cahn in "The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life". Auk 29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 1816, 1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912. A couple of these were thought due to volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world.Steve Fast--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info
I wonder for how long. The lake can skim over with a sharp dip in temp, and then winds break up the ice. When we went down to the lakeshore Saturday morning (we're just north of the village of Aurora), the shore was covered with shards of ice, clear as glass-and then the water was indeed frozen over, but just a thin sheet, about 100 yards out. From: bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-112541225-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Fast Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:19 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Additional freezing info A. R. Cahn in The freezing of Cayuga Lake in its relation to bird life. Auk 29:437-444 reports that the lake was completely frozen over in 1796, 1816, 1826, 1856, 1875, 1884, 1904, and 1912. A couple of these were thought due to volcanic eruptions in other parts of the world. Steve Fast -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
