Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-16 Thread Scott Haber
John C., I'm still trying to figure out how we "know" Goshawks to be adverse to human disturbance. Anecdotal evidence is nice, as is your research on Golden-winged Warblers, but actual cited research on Northern Goshawks reports the following: *"Disturbances associated with research are usually o

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-16 Thread John Confer
I'm just suggesting that an overdoes of caution for the sake of a species that is known to be adverse to human disturbance is worth considering. The evidence for goshawk nest abandonment that I know about is limited but real. I doubt that at this time of year that there would be any impact on

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-16 Thread Scott Haber
As a follow-up to Anne's request, I'd also love to hear about any evidence showing that Goshawks are "on territory" in January, and that "flushing from low cover" is a typical behavior of a Goshawk "on territory" and susceptible to "disturbance". -Scott On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Anne Clark

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-16 Thread Anne Clark
Hopefully this is not taking this outside the interest of many on the list but: I am curious to know the evidence on reduced nesting success in goshawks, in part because it is really important to know what such evidence would look like. John, can you direct those of us who might want to follow

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-16 Thread John and Sue Gregoire
Heartly concur John. Count me as a bander who has both noted this and had research muddled by such exact descriptions. john -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 N 42 26.611' W 76 45.492' Website: http:/

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-15 Thread Joshua Snodgrass
; > > *From:* bounce-118707197-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto: > bounce-118707197-3493...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Confer > *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:04 PM > *To:* Donna Scott; Joshua Snodgrass > *Cc:* CAYUGABIRDS-L > *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northe

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-15 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
st.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-118707197-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of John Confer Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:04 PM To: Donna Scott; Joshua Snodgrass Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co. HI Folks, The barn doo

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-15 Thread John Confer
HI Folks, The barn door is open or the cat is out of the bag, BUT I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT DESCRIBING LOCATIONS OF N GOSHAWK WHEN THEY ACT SOMEWHAT AS IF THEY HAD A TERRITORY. Northern Goshawk are known among banders who climb to hawk nests to frequently abandon a nest, especially early in

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-15 Thread John and Sue Gregoire
Foster Pond is a small parking lot on the left Side Of Potomac Rd going north from 227. It is not in the CLB but in the SLB. -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 N 42 26.611' W 76 45.492' Website: http:

Fwd: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-15 Thread Joshua Snodgrass
-- Forwarded message -- From: Joshua Snodgrass Date: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co. To: Donna Scott Heading west on Searsburg rd (Co. rd. 1), turn left on Potomac rd. (past Hector grazing

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-15 Thread Meena Madhav Haribal
Donna Scott Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 11:15 AM To: Joshua Snodgrass Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co. Where is Foster Pond, please? Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Joshua Snodgrass

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-15 Thread Meena Madhav Haribal
[mailto:bounce-118706019-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Donna Scott Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 11:15 AM To: Joshua Snodgrass Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co. Where is Foster Pond, please? Sent from my iPhone Donna

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-15 Thread Donna Scott
Where is Foster Pond, please? Sent from my iPhone Donna Scott On Jan 14, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Joshua Snodgrass wrote: > I went birding at Foster Pond this afternoon, because high twenties feels > like spring compared to the last few days. Past the frozen pond and down > Backbone trail I ventured

[cayugabirds-l] Northern Goshawk Fingerlakes National Forest, Schuyler Co.

2015-01-14 Thread Joshua Snodgrass
I went birding at Foster Pond this afternoon, because high twenties feels like spring compared to the last few days. Past the frozen pond and down Backbone trail I ventured into the brushy field to get a better look at some waxwings when I flushed a Northern Goshawk from low cover. Life Bird! She (