Re: [cayugabirds-l] Osprey interaction
When I used to photograph the Bald Eagles at Mud Lock, I saw House Sparrows within the Eagle's nest as well, so I wasn't too surprised to hear that they do it to Ospreys as well. I'm glad to hear that the sparrows may provide some benefit to the Ospreys, as well. I hate the House Sparrows because they are so aggressive at the feeders and hog the bird houses. I tolerate them because they eat lots of bugs in my gardens and yard. I've never had an insect problem because the birds take care of them. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 8, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Candace Cornell wrote: > > There is a family of house sparrows nesting with the ospreys again this year > at Salt Point. My Salt Point On Osprey Time blog #11 > (http://www.lansingrec.com/parks/20-salt-point/salt-point-articles/27-on-osprey-time) > address this, but it has not been posted yet as our web master is in > Finland. > > The fish-eating ospreys tolerate other species such as the sparrows, tree > swallows, starlings, and others to nest near them, usually under the > platform. It's probably some form of mutalism, but it has not been studied. > The smaller birds probably keep the nest cleaner with less ecoparasites for > the osprey to contend with. In exchange, the smaller bird get a sturdy > structure to build a nest on and the (passive) protection of the osprey > against predators. > > I wish it had been a gnatcatcher. The house sparrows are ravishing the Salt > Point nest boxes, destroying the bluebird and tree swallow eggs that were > doing so well. > > Candace > > >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Karen Edelstein wrote: >> Last night, during our sunset walk at Salt Point in Lansing, Joe and I got >> some nice views of the osprey pair sharing a fish on the platform edge. >> When we were ready to leave (it was getting quite dark by then) one osprey >> was down incubating presumably while the other stayed alert on the perch >> (ha-ha... fish or pole or both). Some movement along the outside of the nest >> caught Joe's attention. Although the light was terrible, I could see a >> long, twitching tail with a slight notch and very quick movements. Blue >> gray gnatcatcher I'm guessing. The little bird and the big osprey had to >> have been aware of each other but unbothered by each other's presence. The >> little bird worked its way around the edge and then into the nest itself >> before it got too dark to see anymore. >> What was going on? Gleaning bugs? Anyone else seen this? Could it have been >> some species other than gnatcatcher? >> > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Osprey interaction
At Sunken Meadow S.P. on L.I., there was a House Finch pair nesting in the lower level of an Osprey's nest. Bill McAneny _ From: bounce-116224047-7495...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-116224047-7495...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Edelstein Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 7:51 AM To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Cc: Candace Cornell Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Osprey interaction Last night, during our sunset walk at Salt Point in Lansing, Joe and I got some nice views of the osprey pair sharing a fish on the platform edge. When we were ready to leave (it was getting quite dark by then) one osprey was down incubating presumably while the other stayed alert on the perch (ha-ha... fish or pole or both). Some movement along the outside of the nest caught Joe's attention. Although the light was terrible, I could see a long, twitching tail with a slight notch and very quick movements. Blue gray gnatcatcher I'm guessing. The little bird and the big osprey had to have been aware of each other but unbothered by each other's presence. The little bird worked its way around the edge and then into the nest itself before it got too dark to see anymore. What was going on? Gleaning bugs? Anyone else seen this? Could it have been some species other than gnatcatcher? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: <http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> The Mail Archive <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> Surfbirds <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/> ! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[cayugabirds-l] Osprey interaction
There is a family of house sparrows nesting with the ospreys again this year at Salt Point. My *Salt Point On Osprey Time* blog #11 (http://www. lansingrec.com/parks/20-salt-point/salt-point-articles/27-on-osprey-time) address this, but it has not been posted yet as our web master is in Finland. The fish-eating ospreys tolerate other species such as the sparrows, tree swallows, starlings, and others to nest near them, usually under the platform. It's probably some form of mutalism, but it has not been studied. The smaller birds probably keep the nest cleaner with less ecoparasites for the osprey to contend with. In exchange, the smaller bird get a sturdy structure to build a nest on and the (passive) protection of the osprey against predators. I wish it had been a gnatcatcher. The house sparrows are ravishing the Salt Point nest boxes, destroying the bluebird and tree swallow eggs that were doing so well. Candace On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Karen Edelstein wrote: > Last night, during our sunset walk at Salt Point in Lansing, Joe and I got > some nice views of the osprey pair sharing a fish on the platform edge. > When we were ready to leave (it was getting quite dark by then) one osprey > was down incubating presumably while the other stayed alert on the perch > (ha-ha... fish or pole or both). Some movement along the outside of the > nest caught Joe's attention. Although the light was terrible, I could see > a long, twitching tail with a slight notch and very quick movements. Blue > gray gnatcatcher I'm guessing. The little bird and the big osprey had to > have been aware of each other but unbothered by each other's presence. The > little bird worked its way around the edge and then into the nest itself > before it got too dark to see anymore. > What was going on? Gleaning bugs? Anyone else seen this? Could it have > been some species other than gnatcatcher? > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Osprey interaction
Last night, during our sunset walk at Salt Point in Lansing, Joe and I got some nice views of the osprey pair sharing a fish on the platform edge. When we were ready to leave (it was getting quite dark by then) one osprey was down incubating presumably while the other stayed alert on the perch (ha-ha... fish or pole or both). Some movement along the outside of the nest caught Joe's attention. Although the light was terrible, I could see a long, twitching tail with a slight notch and very quick movements. Blue gray gnatcatcher I'm guessing. The little bird and the big osprey had to have been aware of each other but unbothered by each other's presence. The little bird worked its way around the edge and then into the nest itself before it got too dark to see anymore. What was going on? Gleaning bugs? Anyone else seen this? Could it have been some species other than gnatcatcher? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
