Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Is the CCIE voice worth anymore?

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Davis
No matter what, there will ALWAYS been a need for large scale Enterprise voice 
systems. I am one of those people, and I am sure I am not alone, I will always 
want a physical phone. I am also one of these engineers who will always 
recommned a system that is directly under your own site's controll. Clouds are 
great, but they have their place. I don't think telecom will ever be a total 
cloud based solution.

 


 From: Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com
To: Drake J jdrake...@gmail.com 
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Is the CCIE voice worth anymore?
  


As a former big Telco employee, they want three things:
 Stability
 Scalability
 Profitability

At this time these applications are not there.



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com wrote:

As a former big Telco employee, they want three things: 
 Stability
 Scalability



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Drake J jdrake...@gmail.com wrote:



hi Laksh,

Thanks for your inputs here.    This was a good discussion.   It is always 
good for us to all know about things that happen outside  . Talking about 
Telco OTTs we can already see  few of the Telcos have come out  with  Webrtc 
solutions for enterprise and service providers .  Check this video out too 
depicting their solution...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz-BQZMp3sk


Most of these applications written on software are  supposed to  open source 
and left for the users to customize .   No real networking staff expertise 
required   just download the  SDK/API and customize and no more complex 
network topologies in future.  Also no licensing fee too .  Hence a real 
killer  of  techology  in the future  most likely we will see a wide spread 
of this starting 2014 if all predictions are to be believed.


Hope someone from any of the TELCOs  on this alias can add a few comments as 
well.


Thanks once again for your inputs everyone.









On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Lakshmish NS lakshmish...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Drake, 


I totally understand your concern, I'd be worried too. Having said that, we 
should always update ourselves with the latest technology. However, in 
future I believe Asterisk might be able to give tough run to Cisco UC. Not 
sure though, I hear stories that it is unstable and featureless compared to 
CUCM. I hope if someone aware of Asterisk would help us out here.  


Regard, 


Laksh






On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Drake J jdrake...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your responses  I see u guys have empathized on call routing and 
and UC hardware for backend deployments.  However Telco OTTs are coming up 
with directly provide these services over the cloud . Here is a disruptive 
analysis :

http://www.slideshare.net/deanb/disruptive-analysis-web-rtc-overview-april-2013


Anyways, this might be not be so serious afterall . Just thought of 
brainstorming  . 

Thanks guys for your responses again. 





On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Lakshmish NS lakshmish...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Didn't have time to go through the video, I believe WebRTC is nothing but a 
Protocol, similar to SIP, H.323. Moreover, this protocol would only appeal 
to the Web audience, just like Skype, or Google talk. You still need to use 
UC hardware and their design for enterprise deployments. I mean we don't 
use Google talk and Skype in companies right? SIP is open source, but still 
Cisco uses it. As FAQ's suggest WebRTC is an open framework for the web 
that enables Real Time Communications in the browser. If only UC was that 
easy that could be implemented through browser, we didn't have to work this 
hard for CCIE numbers. You might want to go through this... 
http://www.webrtc.org/faq


You've clearly misinterpreted WebRTC here.. 



On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Drake J jdrake...@gmail.com wrote:


hi All,



Had a troubling question hence thought of putting it out .Looking at the 
UC and networking trends worldwide it appears that
the future of UC and collaboration is web based. Webrtc is
the protocol that the world will use and individuals and organizations
just need to code their requirement based on the WEBRTC.

Here is the presentation that Google recently made

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8C8ouiXHHk


Clearly many of the UC vendors are already losing out and will be
losing out in year 2014.


Most of the customers are already looking at reducing the cost involved
in maintaining costly UC vendor networks and their networking staff .


Therefore that brings me to my question is the CCIE voice worth anymore?


-Drake



 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] RSVP getting sometime Not Enough Bandwidth

2013-08-28 Thread Michael Davis
Need more information. Is it as the remote site I hope. Do you have QoS 
configured at the remote location?

 


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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:38 AM
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] RSVP getting sometime  Not Enough Bandwidth 
  


Hi 
I am getting Not Enough Bandwidth for some RSVP calls
it is like it works  mostly but some time for some call attempt i get Not 
enough BW?
Did anyone face this issue? 
How to resolve it
 
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Question about Proctor Labs and Routing via hardware based Router

2013-08-23 Thread Michael Davis
IF I change my home router to use the same VLANs they do in the labs, then 
technically, I should still be able to connect and then I can draw from the 
same IP address poool used in each of the labs so it won't throw me off when I 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] cme converting sip phone to sccp and vice versa

2013-08-19 Thread Michael Davis
Don't worry too much about SIP phone endpoints. Focus on SCCP.
 


 From: Josh Petro josh.pe...@gmail.com
To: Marcelo Augusto maugusto...@gmail.com 
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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] cme converting sip phone to sccp and vice versa
  


What you're doing is the best way. Changing protocols in CME involves adding 
TFTP files and a bunch of other different issues. Much easier to use the CUCM 
like you are doing.
Josh

On Sunday, August 18, 2013, Marcelo Augusto  wrote:

if i get a question to configure my phones on CME and my phones are in 
different protocol than requested on the question, what is the fastest way to 
convert the phone? what is the fast way to configure, if the phone will spend 
more time to do the process doesn't matter.

actualy, i'm registering the phone to CUCM with the desirable protocol, then 
return to CME. But i don't know if in lab this is right way or i have to do 
this in CME.




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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUCCX

2013-08-11 Thread Michael Davis
CUCCX is not supposed to be this hard. I know I a missing something. My CTI 
ports are regisested, they are both in the correct DP, and CSS. The phones are 
in the same CSS and they can call each ohter.  The trigger is correct and it is 
also in the correct CSS and DP. The ccx user is the correct CSS and DP.
 
Goes immediatly to the promp thank you for calling. all our reps are assiting 
other callers at this time
 
Not showing up in the queue. Yipes!___
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUCCX

2013-08-11 Thread Michael Davis

Never mind. I just figured it out. DUH! CSQ skill level was too high.
 


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Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:22 PM
Subject: CUCCX
  


CUCCX is not supposed to be this hard. I know I a missing something. My CTI 
ports are regisested, they are both in the correct DP, and CSS. The phones are 
in the same CSS and they can call each ohter.  The trigger is correct and it is 
also in the correct CSS and DP. The ccx user is the correct CSS and DP.

Goes immediatly to the promp thank you for calling. all our reps are assiting 
other callers at this time

Not showing up in the queue. Yipes!___
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Hyphothetical Voice Infrastructure Issue Question

2012-12-13 Thread Michael Davis
Scenario for campus intrasture problem:


Phones are not registering. Phones are obtaining a valid IP address and have 
been erased to ensure they are getting a fresh IP address. 

Solutions investigated

Verified VLAN's are correct and active
Verified option 150 is correct in the DHCP options
Verified Helper IP address is on was  the voice vlan's when in different subnet
TFTP and DHCP on CM was restarted.
NTP was verified and CM DB replication is normal.

Idea that not checkd: WAN Qos may have been enabled thereby causing phone 
registration issues.

Am I on the right track?

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Blueprint Change

2012-12-13 Thread Michael Davis
The Blueprint for voice will change, and I was also told soon. When I took my 
first attempt at my CCIE voice this week, I was told it weill not be as 
quickly as you would think by the proctor. Vik, on the other hand, is 
convinced it will sooner that latter. 
 
You just have to keep checking the Cisco web site for updates.
 
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