Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2013-11-04 Thread Paul Onwude
Many thank Justin. This is very helpful.

Best regards

Paul Onwude

(Please excuse the brevity of this email as it was sent via a mobile device. 
Kindly excuse misspelled words or sentence structure)

 On 4 Nov, 2013, at 7:28 pm, Justin Carney justin.s.car...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you're adding the plus I cucm this is expected behavior that it will be 
 lost at the ios gw.  You're not missing anything on cucm, this is just how 
 h323 works on ios routers...the only option is to add a plus in the ios 
 gateway.
 
 IOS/h323 will (by design, unfortunately) discard a plus in dnis on the 
 inbound call leg, so make sure you are adding it on the outbound dial or 
 voice port.  (You might be able to add plus on an inbound dial peer but I 
 haven't tried and not sure if it would then get discarded.)
 
 For the lab I would recommend doing ALL h323 digit manipilation on the h323 
 gw.  If you do it in cucm then later when you need to do srst you will need 
 extra dialpeers and/or translations.
 
 For example, I use only 4 outbound pots dialpeers in h323 each with a 
 translation profile that modifies ani (for each site, matching 2... 3... and 
 4...) and dnis (usually just type/plan).  I send all the dialed digits from a 
 phone to the h323 gw the let the gw make the ani and dnis match the pstn 
 requirements for all call types including teho.
 
 The only time I modify digits in cucm is when no new rp is alowed for 911 at 
 site b and that uses slrg - the ani is masked to 7digits in cucm, but the 
 h323 still must set ani/dnis type and plan to unknown for dnis.  Also, for 
 teho from site a to site b pstn, I would strip the 91408 from the dialed 
 digits and prefix 9 in the route list/rg for h323 so it matches my outbound 
 local dialpeer.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 -Justin
 
 On Nov 4, 2013 2:19 AM, Paul Onwude ponw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All. 
 Need expert opinion on this.
 I have a H323 gateway and i have setup called party transformations on CUCM 
 to send “+” to the gateway. My issue is i don’t see the plus when i debug 
 ids q931. When i do other digit manipulation like adding “#”, it show up on 
 the gateway but not the “+”
 
 I know i can probably achieve this using translation on the GW but i can’t 
 help but think there is something i am missing in CUCM.
 
 Any ideas??
 
 Paul
 
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2013-11-04 Thread Justin Carney
If you're adding the plus I cucm this is expected behavior that it will be
lost at the ios gw.  You're not missing anything on cucm, this is just how
h323 works on ios routers...the only option is to add a plus in the ios
gateway.

IOS/h323 will (by design, unfortunately) discard a plus in dnis on the
inbound call leg, so make sure you are adding it on the outbound dial or
voice port.  (You might be able to add plus on an inbound dial peer but I
haven't tried and not sure if it would then get discarded.)

For the lab I would recommend doing ALL h323 digit manipilation on the h323
gw.  If you do it in cucm then later when you need to do srst you will need
extra dialpeers and/or translations.

For example, I use only 4 outbound pots dialpeers in h323 each with a
translation profile that modifies ani (for each site, matching 2... 3...
and 4...) and dnis (usually just type/plan).  I send all the dialed digits
from a phone to the h323 gw the let the gw make the ani and dnis match the
pstn requirements for all call types including teho.

The only time I modify digits in cucm is when no new rp is alowed for 911
at site b and that uses slrg - the ani is masked to 7digits in cucm, but
the h323 still must set ani/dnis type and plan to unknown for dnis.  Also,
for teho from site a to site b pstn, I would strip the 91408 from the
dialed digits and prefix 9 in the route list/rg for h323 so it matches my
outbound local dialpeer.

Hope this helps.

-Justin
On Nov 4, 2013 2:19 AM, Paul Onwude ponw...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Hi All. *

 *Need expert opinion on this.*

 *I have a H323 gateway and i have setup called party transformations on CUCM 
 to send “+” to the gateway. My issue is i don’t see the plus when i debug ids 
 q931. When i do other digit manipulation like adding “#”, it show up on the 
 gateway but not the “+”*


 *I know i can probably achieve this using translation on the GW but i can’t 
 help but think there is something i am missing in CUCM.*


 *Any ideas??*


 *Paul*


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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2013-11-03 Thread Paul Onwude
Hi All. 
Need expert opinion on this.
I have a H323 gateway and i have setup called party transformations on CUCM to 
send “+” to the gateway. My issue is i don’t see the plus when i debug ids 
q931. When i do other digit manipulation like adding “#”, it show up on the 
gateway but not the “+”

I know i can probably achieve this using translation on the GW but i can’t help 
but think there is something i am missing in CUCM.

Any ideas??

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2011-03-24 Thread mega sema
Hi Adam,

I found this in CCM service settings for some of H323 parameters :

Ensure that calls over QSIG trunks do not utilize + because it is not
supported by QSIG. This parameter has no effect on H.323 outbound calls
because H.323 unconditionally strips the + sign when routing outbound calls.
This is a required field. Default: False

Best regards
Andriy

2011/3/24 adam compton com...@gmail.com

 I'm using external calling number mask with full e164 number.  When I call
 from an extension out a MGCP gateway, the call goes as expected with the +.
 If I dial out of an H323 gateway, the external number shows with no plus.
 Anybody ran into this before?  I can add the plus with a translation-profile
 on the voice-port, but in the back of my head, I feel i must be doing
 something wrong on the Call Manager side of things.

 Adam Compton

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2011-03-24 Thread George Goglidze
it's fine on SIP, it's only h323 that can't handle the + sign.

and it's not a dial-peer that strips it, when call manager sends the h225
setup, + is already NOT present there...

Regards,

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Adam Thompson phoe...@fatturtle.comwrote:

 The + gets stripped by the voip dial-peer. You will always have to add the
 + back when sending to a H323 or SIP gateway.

 -Adam

 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well,  I might have found my answer:

 http://www.voiceie.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=002862

 Poster says that h323 gateways can't process the plus.  Can anyone
 confirm?

 Adam Compton


 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:15 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using external calling number mask with full e164 number.  When I
 call from an extension out a MGCP gateway, the call goes as expected with
 the +.  If I dial out of an H323 gateway, the external number shows with no
 plus.  Anybody ran into this before?  I can add the plus with a
 translation-profile on the voice-port, but in the back of my head, I feel i
 must be doing something wrong on the Call Manager side of things.

 Adam Compton



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2011-03-24 Thread Bill Lake
This has been a pretty long discussion about the normal behaviour of
H323. The '+' expression is recognised by MGCP and SIP GWs, not H323.
If you want an H323 GW to send the full E164 number starting with '+'
you need to apply a voice translation rule. For example you can apply
the rule on the voice port in outgoing direction.

Example voice translation rule is:

voice translation-rule 10
rule 1 // /+/

voice translation-profile AddPlus
translate called 10

voice-port 0/0/0:23
translation-profile outgoing AddPlus

Do the above and you will be sending the full number across.

and some say to add type unknown unknown plan any isdn to the rule 1
listed here


On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:03 AM, George Goglidze gogli...@gmail.com wrote:
 it's fine on SIP, it's only h323 that can't handle the + sign.
 and it's not a dial-peer that strips it, when call manager sends the h225
 setup, + is already NOT present there...
 Regards,

 On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Adam Thompson phoe...@fatturtle.com
 wrote:

 The + gets stripped by the voip dial-peer. You will always have to add the
 + back when sending to a H323 or SIP gateway.
 -Adam

 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well,  I might have found my answer:

 http://www.voiceie.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=002862

 Poster says that h323 gateways can't process the plus.  Can anyone
 confirm?

 Adam Compton

 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:15 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using external calling number mask with full e164 number.  When I
 call from an extension out a MGCP gateway, the call goes as expected with
 the +.  If I dial out of an H323 gateway, the external number shows with no
 plus.  Anybody ran into this before?  I can add the plus with a
 translation-profile on the voice-port, but in the back of my head, I feel i
 must be doing something wrong on the Call Manager side of things.

 Adam Compton


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2011-03-24 Thread adam compton
one small correction.  It would be translate calling since we are talking
about callerid.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com wrote:

 This has been a pretty long discussion about the normal behaviour of
 H323. The '+' expression is recognised by MGCP and SIP GWs, not H323.
 If you want an H323 GW to send the full E164 number starting with '+'
 you need to apply a voice translation rule. For example you can apply
 the rule on the voice port in outgoing direction.

 Example voice translation rule is:

 voice translation-rule 10
 rule 1 // /+/

 voice translation-profile AddPlus
 translate called 10

 voice-port 0/0/0:23
 translation-profile outgoing AddPlus

 Do the above and you will be sending the full number across.

 and some say to add type unknown unknown plan any isdn to the rule 1
 listed here


 On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:03 AM, George Goglidze gogli...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  it's fine on SIP, it's only h323 that can't handle the + sign.
  and it's not a dial-peer that strips it, when call manager sends the h225
  setup, + is already NOT present there...
  Regards,
 
  On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Adam Thompson phoe...@fatturtle.com
  wrote:
 
  The + gets stripped by the voip dial-peer. You will always have to add
 the
  + back when sending to a H323 or SIP gateway.
  -Adam
 
  On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Well,  I might have found my answer:
 
 
 http://www.voiceie.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=002862
 
  Poster says that h323 gateways can't process the plus.  Can anyone
  confirm?
 
  Adam Compton
 
  On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:15 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I'm using external calling number mask with full e164 number.  When I
  call from an extension out a MGCP gateway, the call goes as expected
 with
  the +.  If I dial out of an H323 gateway, the external number shows
 with no
  plus.  Anybody ran into this before?  I can add the plus with a
  translation-profile on the voice-port, but in the back of my head, I
 feel i
  must be doing something wrong on the Call Manager side of things.
 
  Adam Compton
 
 
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2011-03-23 Thread adam compton
I'm using external calling number mask with full e164 number.  When I call
from an extension out a MGCP gateway, the call goes as expected with the +.
If I dial out of an H323 gateway, the external number shows with no plus.
Anybody ran into this before?  I can add the plus with a translation-profile
on the voice-port, but in the back of my head, I feel i must be doing
something wrong on the Call Manager side of things.

Adam Compton
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2011-03-23 Thread adam compton
Well,  I might have found my answer:

http://www.voiceie.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=002862

Poster says that h323 gateways can't process the plus.  Can anyone confirm?

Adam Compton

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:15 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using external calling number mask with full e164 number.  When I call
 from an extension out a MGCP gateway, the call goes as expected with the +.
 If I dial out of an H323 gateway, the external number shows with no plus.
 Anybody ran into this before?  I can add the plus with a translation-profile
 on the voice-port, but in the back of my head, I feel i must be doing
 something wrong on the Call Manager side of things.

 Adam Compton

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2011-03-23 Thread givemeccievoice2010
Adam,

 

This is correct.  If you have a requirement to send the + you'll have to add
at voice-port using a translation-rule.  

 

Jeff

 

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[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of adam compton
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:19 PM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on
outgoing PRI calls

 

Well,  I might have found my answer:

http://www.voiceie.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=002862

Poster says that h323 gateways can't process the plus.  Can anyone confirm?

Adam Compton

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:15 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm using external calling number mask with full e164 number.  When I call
from an extension out a MGCP gateway, the call goes as expected with the +.
If I dial out of an H323 gateway, the external number shows with no plus.
Anybody ran into this before?  I can add the plus with a translation-profile
on the voice-port, but in the back of my head, I feel i must be doing
something wrong on the Call Manager side of things.

Adam Compton

 

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] H323 gateway doesn't send the plus on outgoing PRI calls

2011-03-23 Thread Adam Thompson
The + gets stripped by the voip dial-peer. You will always have to add the +
back when sending to a H323 or SIP gateway.

-Adam

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:19 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well,  I might have found my answer:

 http://www.voiceie.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=002862

 Poster says that h323 gateways can't process the plus.  Can anyone confirm?

 Adam Compton


 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:15 PM, adam compton com...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using external calling number mask with full e164 number.  When I call
 from an extension out a MGCP gateway, the call goes as expected with the +.
 If I dial out of an H323 gateway, the external number shows with no plus.
 Anybody ran into this before?  I can add the plus with a translation-profile
 on the voice-port, but in the back of my head, I feel i must be doing
 something wrong on the Call Manager side of things.

 Adam Compton



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