Re: [ccp4bb] ligand bonds (AlF3) breaking up after refinement in refmac

2015-01-18 Thread Matthew Bowler
Hi Ansuman, I think that the refinement is putting the atoms in the right place so there is no 'exploding', 1.8 to 1.9A is the ideal length for Mg-F. Even though you did not add Mg, if it is required for catalysis there must be some around and this would then recruited into the MgF3-. As

Re: [ccp4bb] Redundancy vs no of frames

2015-01-18 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Rohit Kumar, I prefer the term multiplicity instead of redundancy because the latter has a connotation of not really needed any more. The relation then is multiplicity = c * number_of_frames * oscillation_range where the constant c depends mainly on the space group. HTH, Kay On Sun,

Re: [ccp4bb] Redundancy vs no of frames

2015-01-18 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Bernhard, You are being charmingly modest and self-critical: your philosophical discourse has always contributed to broadening an initially narrow question in an enlightening way :-) . In this case, it seems to me that Rohit's narrow question itself has only been touched upon.

Re: [ccp4bb] Redundancy vs no of frames

2015-01-18 Thread Ian Tickle
At the risk of further extending this philosophical (if not etymological) discussion: in further defence of 'redundancy' I would point out that 'no longer needed' is not the only meaning of 'redundant', though admittedly it is the one that most often grabs the headlines! The meaning of

Re: [ccp4bb] Redundancy vs no of frames

2015-01-18 Thread Ian Tickle
PS see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_redundancy_check . I. On 18 January 2015 at 13:54, Ian Tickle ianj...@gmail.com wrote: At the risk of further extending this philosophical (if not etymological) discussion: in further defence of 'redundancy' I would point out that 'no longer

Re: [ccp4bb] Redundancy vs no of frames

2015-01-18 Thread Bernhard Rupp
In defense of redundancy: While the IUCr online dictionary is notably silent about multiplicity, the term itself seems already oversubscribed and used differently in various crystallographic contexts. (i) Each general or special position in a crystal structure has a certain multiplicity,

Re: [ccp4bb] Visualizing Stereo view

2015-01-18 Thread Jim Fairman
You can create stereo images for publications in pymol: http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Stereo_ray Adding labels and getting them to float at the correct depth within the image can be tricky. As for visualizing the stereo images, you can either practice alot and get good at cross eyed stereo

Re: [ccp4bb] additional density on cysteine residue

2015-01-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Don't forget to check the anomalous difference Fourier - this may fix any S atoms - the resolution is god enough Eleanor On 18 January 2015 at 01:12, Robert Stroud str...@msg.ucsf.edu wrote: I suspect it may be a reaction with your reducing agent. What did you use either in the preparation, or

Re: [ccp4bb] Visualizing Stereo view

2015-01-18 Thread Ronald E Stenkamp
Are most stereo images now for cross-eyed viewing? I thought they were for wall-eyed viewing. Perhaps a warning would be helpful for people starting out at looking at published stereoviews. If you look at a stereoview constructed for wall-eyed viewing but look at it with crossed eyes,

Re: [ccp4bb] coot 0.8.1 freezes my graphics

2015-01-18 Thread Jurgen Bosch
Wrong board, try sending it to the cootbb Jūrgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Streetx-apple-data-detectors://4, W8708 Baltimore,

Re: [ccp4bb] Redundancy vs no of frames

2015-01-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Also RAID (REDUNDANT array of inexpensive disks). To me redundancy implies robustness, overdetermination, like when I measure absorbance at 1500 wavelengths to calculate the concentration of five absorbing species with a 2-parameter baseline offset. Exactly the connotation we want for our

[ccp4bb] coot 0.8.1 freezes my graphics

2015-01-18 Thread Kenneth A. Satyshur
Coot is our best program there ever was for fitting electron density. It is very simple to use and easy to teach. But sometimes improvements are made that seem to just slow things down. Having used 0.7.1 for a long time, i noticed that rotation and scaling of density is very quick, but

Re: [ccp4bb] Visualizing Stereo view

2015-01-18 Thread Ian Tickle
I find that the 'rotation' method of producing the stereo views can be confusing because if you have z-clipping on, different atoms get clipped in the L R images and you see the corresponding atoms which are still visible in the other image in mono, while of course all the rest are in stereo.

Re: [ccp4bb] Visualizing Stereo view

2015-01-18 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Jeorge, The easiest was of making a stereo image is with CCP4mg. You just need to tick a box when you make an image. Looking at stereo images takes practice, but it is a useful skill. It also helps with those spot-the-differences puzzles :) Cheers, Robbie -Oorspronkelijk bericht-