Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-07 Thread kavyashreem
Dear Patrick, I did use microseeding but for a different ligand. Will try with this as well. Thank you REgards Kavya On 2023-02-07 16:20, Patrick Shaw Stewart wrote: >> As to why previously in a very similar condition you did get your desired >> protein plus (other) ligand > > Kavya,

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-07 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
> > As to why previously in a very similar condition you did get your desired > protein plus (other) ligand Kavya, did you use microseeding? That's the way to get consistent results. Since you're changing the ligand I suggest you go back and run a few random screens (with crushed crystals of

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-06 Thread kavyashreem
Dear Ben, It was a single crystal that was mounted. I did use IZIT dye, did not trun blue much. Probably its a TCEp crystal. But I did try a negative control without protein+ligand and rest everything same, the drop was clear! Thank you Regards Kavya On 2023-02-06 22:49, Ben Bax wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] RE: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-05 Thread kavyashreem
SENT: Saturday, February 4, 2023 14:32 > TO: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > SUBJECT: Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image > > PS it's probably not a salt crystal...TCEP is not a salt, your ligand I > presume is also not a salt, a small cleaved peptide ne

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-05 Thread Bernhard Rupp
assisted by anomalous P (or Zn?) signal... Have fun, BR From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Mark J. van Raaij Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2023 14:32 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image PS it’s probably not a salt crystal…TCEP

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-04 Thread kavyashreem
Dear Mark, Thanks for the clarification. Regards Kavya On 2023-02-05 04:02, Mark J. van Raaij wrote: > PS it's probably not a salt crystal...TCEP is not a salt, your ligand I > presume is also not a salt, a small cleaved peptide neither. As to why > previously in a very similar

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-04 Thread Mark J. van Raaij
PS it’s probably not a salt crystal…TCEP is not a salt, your ligand I presume is also not a salt, a small cleaved peptide neither. As to why previously in a very similar condition you did get your desired protein plus (other) ligand crystal, it just means the molecule (TCEP') crystallises in a

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-04 Thread Mark J. van Raaij
the unit cell in the c direction is quite long, 49 Å, this gives the relatively close spots in one direction. Mark J van Raaij Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas, lab 20B Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC calle Darwin 3 E-28049 Madrid, Spain tel. +34 91 585 4616 (internal 432092) Section

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-04 Thread kavyashreem
Dear all, Sorry for the confusion created, I did not mean that a protein would have fit in the small unit cell. My question was - 1. Why are there closely spaced spots arising in salt crystal? 2. If TCEP could crystallize in the condition, I have got a protein (same as this)+ligand

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-04 Thread kavyashreem
Dear Mark, I did think it was salt, so I checked the same batch of protein which went for crystallization by running a gel, it was intact, no cleavage. My doubts arose because of two things 1. I crystallized the same protein with another ligand, in very similar condition (10% PEG3350, 50mM Zn

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-04 Thread kavyashreem
Hi Jessica, I am quite sure the protein cannot be fit in this unitcell. I was just curious why the diffraction has closely spaced spots. Thanks On 2023-02-04 00:02, Jessica Bruhn wrote: > Hi Kavya, > > As others have mentioned, the unit cell is too small to contain your protein. > With

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXT] Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image

2023-02-04 Thread kavyashreem
Dear Thomas, Interestingly, I had crystallized the same protein with another ligand before with the same condition except that it had sodium citrate in addition. I was able to collect the data for this and it was a protein-ligand complex, which could be seen in the density. So I was speculating