Dear Thomas,  

Interestingly, I had crystallized the same protein with another ligand
before with the same condition except that it had sodium citrate in
addition. I was able to collect the data for this and it was a
protein-ligand complex, which could be seen in the density. So I was
speculating about this data especially because of the closely spaced
diffraction spots, and if the crystal has some peculiar defect.  

Thank you 

Regards 

Kavya 

On 2023-02-03 14:27, Thomas Flower wrote:

> Dear Kavya, 
> 
> 4 mM is quite a high concentration of TCEP, perhaps they are TCEP crystals. 
> 
> You could try a Unit Cell Search of the CCDC to see if you find a match: Unit 
> Cell Search - WebCSD (cam.ac.uk) [2] 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Thomas 
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> A and B unit cell dimensions are hardly bigger than twice the uni cell of 
> cubic NaCl and will probably not accommodate a 30 kDa protein. 
> 
> Make a SDS gel of washed & dissolved crystals to be sure these are not alt or 
> inhibitor crystals. You can stain the crystals with IzIt... 
> 
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>> Am 03.02.2023 um 09:22 schrieb kavyashreem <[email protected]>: 
>> 
>> Dear all, 
>> 
>> We crystallized a protein (30kDa) + ligand (by cocrystallization), in the 
>> condition 10%PEG3350, 50mM Zinc acetate. 
>> 
>> Protein was in the buffer 20mM HEPES, 150mM NaCl, 1uM ZnCl2, 4mM TCEP, pH 8. 
>>  
>> 
>> Crystal:                             Crystal:                           
>> crystal under UV m 
>> 
>> <b06fc576.png>     <e091c7fd.png>   <8ef9453e.png> 
>> 
>> When we collected the data at an in-house facility, it looked something like 
>> this: 
>> 
>> <b903961d.png> 
>> 
>> The minimum resolution spot is around 9Ang and maximum ~2.2Ang. 
>> 
>> I have not come across a protein diffraction like this, nor of a salt. When 
>> I ran the gel for the incubated protein (protein+ligand), there was no 
>> degradation. 
>> 
>> Although, I was sure there is some problem with this image I tried 
>> processing, which could not be, But indexing showed a unit cell  of 11Ang, 
>> 11Ang, 46Ang in P3. which was quite expected for two of the axes but not the 
>> third. 
>> 
>> Can anyone please shed some light on this diffraction image? 
>> 
>> How can it happen?
>> 
>> Thank you 
>> 
>> Regards 
>> 
>> Kavya
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