Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+

2019-08-06 Thread Bernhard Rupp
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+ One thing to remember is that Li+ only has two electrons. It should be a little more than twice the density of an hydrogen (because the charge pulls in the electron cloud). If you are seeing lithium at 8 "

Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+

2019-08-05 Thread Dale Tronrud
One thing to remember is that Li+ only has two electrons. It should be a little more than twice the density of an hydrogen (because the charge pulls in the electron cloud). If you are seeing lithium at 8 "sigma" you should be seeing the well located hydrogen atoms at 4 "sigma". Are you? I

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+

2019-08-05 Thread Daniel M. Himmel, Ph. D.
-- Forwarded message - From: Daniel M. Himmel, Ph. D. Date: Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+ To: Pentagonal phosphate geometry would be a transition state, except that three oxygens

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+

2019-08-05 Thread Herman . Schreuder
PS, you also have to define an alternative conformation, but that you probably already did. Von: Schreuder, Herman /DE Gesendet: Montag, 5. August 2019 17:55 An: 'Maria Håkansson'; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+

2019-08-05 Thread Herman . Schreuder
:32 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+ EXTERNAL : Real sender is owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk Hi, Thanks for your suggestions but I have tried to invert the phosphate and it is not fitting the map. The geometry is not correct

Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+

2019-08-05 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I always say this, but is there any feature in the anomalous map? You can sometimes see S atoms. Eleanor And do the temperatre factors suggest anything about multiple occupancies etc.. E On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 16:32, Maria Håkansson wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your suggestions but I have tried

Re: [ccp4bb] Extra density close to phosphate bound to Zn2+

2019-08-05 Thread Maria Håkansson
Hi, Thanks for your suggestions but I have tried to invert the phosphate and it is not fitting the map. The geometry is not correct that way and it is too good data to ignore and to my knowledge a pentacoordinated phosphate is a non existent species. That leaves me with ions. Best regards, Mar