Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement with poor model

2014-12-14 Thread Ursula Schulze-Gahmen
Thanks for all the good suggestions. This gives me a lot more things to try. Ursula On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Claudia Millán Nebot cmn...@ibmb.csic.es wrote: Dear Ursula, If you have a resolution around 2.0 A you can try some of the following: - Expand the partial solution with

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement with poor model

2014-12-13 Thread Claudia Millán Nebot
Dear Ursula, If you have a resolution around 2.0 A you can try some of the following: - Expand the partial solution with shelxe autotracing feature. - Do a search with ARCIMBOLDO_LITE using the partial solution. You can fin the program at http://chango.ibmb.csic.es/arcimboldo_lite. Then,

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement with poor model

2014-12-13 Thread Daniel Rigden
Dear Ursula AMPLE is also worth trying, especially but not exclusively for smaller and predominantly helical targets. It was originally conceived for novel folds but you may well find ab initio modelling methods get closer to the real structure of distant homologs than the nearest available

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement with poor model

2014-12-12 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Ursula, I also tried to just superimpose the complete model onto the partial solution. This results in quite nice packing, but doesn't refine. Is there a rigid program refinement program with very large convergence? depending on what you call very large, this may be helpful: Automatic

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement with poor model

2014-12-12 Thread Randy Read
Dear Ursula, 18% identity is really in the twilight zone for molecular replacement, where it may work but there are certainly no guarantees. However, there’s a feature in Phaser that is useful for this kind of problem, i.e. the “rotate around” option, where you take advantage of knowing the

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement with poor model

2014-12-12 Thread xaravich ivan
What is the resolution of your data? I have been able to get a solution for my protein with 30% identity but my resolution of data was 1.4 Angs. I believe to get a solution at 18% identity your search model has to be very close, like using Robetta to make the 3 mer and 9mer peptides and then work