Re: [ccp4bb] Protein expression in Minimal media (M9)

2007-04-18 Thread Richard P. Grant
Hi, from my experience with minimal media expression you're probably better off starting with a good, thick rich media overnight growth, and then diluting that out 1:20 – 1:50 into the M9. Richard -- Richard P. Grant School of Molecular & Microbial Biosciences University of Sydney

[ccp4bb] Protein expression in Minimal media (M9)

2007-04-18 Thread mshah
Hello everybody, Sorry for an offtopic question. I am trying to express a protein in M9 minimal media for Selenomet incorporation. When grown in LB this protein expressed very well and got good crystals. Diffraction was upto 2 A. I am having a hard time expressing the same protein in Minimal me

Re: [ccp4bb] protein or salt?

2007-04-18 Thread Frank von Delft
Hi Nick, it's not obvious to me this is a single lattice, hence the "many" spots. But it's not protein, don't worry about that. phx. _ From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Noinaj Sent: 19 April 2007 00:19 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] prot

Re: [ccp4bb] protein or salt?

2007-04-18 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Hi, In my opinion this is clearly a twinned crystal of some sort of a small molecule. If you have a small ice crystal on top of a completely non-diffractive protein crystal, sometimes the pattern may also look like this - but I would bet this is just 'salt'. Artem _ From: CCP4

[ccp4bb] Position for Structural Biologist-Novartis Institutes for BioMedical Research

2007-04-18 Thread Bussiere, Dirksen
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[ccp4bb] protein or salt?

2007-04-18 Thread Noinaj
Hi, i collected a diffraction pattern today of a protein crystal, hoping to answer the question, is it a protein or salt? The crystals appear as typical proteins crystals (from my experience), forming both plates and rods, easily crushed into millions of tiny crystals, and are bouyant. unfor

[ccp4bb] How to run SIGMAA twice in a row?

2007-04-18 Thread Huiying Li
My previous posting did not get answer, it might be a bit confusing. My questions is if I want to conbine phases from three different sources, 2 MAD data sets and a partial model, can I run SIGMAA twice? Combining MAD phases first, and then add in the model phases to the pre-combined MAD phases

Re: [ccp4bb] tcltkblt and python distributions

2007-04-18 Thread William Scott
You would probably be better off using the CentOS5-supplied python, tck, tk, blt, and so forth (and if they aren't supplied, then consider a linux distro that provides these things). Also, if you compile your own ccp4, you can include the latest patches and direct it to use whatever versions of th

[ccp4bb] tcltkblt and python distributions

2007-04-18 Thread o . h . weiergraeber
Hello, I have been running into issues with the tcl/tk and python bundles currently distributed with ccp4-6.0.2 (x86 system running Centos5). 1. The tcl/tk/blt package for Linux now extracts into a ./tcltkblt subdirectory. Apart from making upgrades slightly easier, this does not seem to make v

Re: [ccp4bb] disorder, solvent content, and diffraction limit

2007-04-18 Thread artem
Mike, This is a complicated question :) The floppy bits can contribute to packing in several non-obvious ways. I may be able to help you get a better crystal form, if you're willing to share the specifics of the protein (which will be kept confidential of course). I've developed new procedures fo

Re: [ccp4bb] Stop Refmac from refining B factors?

2007-04-18 Thread Mark A. White
Eva, I have used CNS to refine several low resolution structures. I have even developed several tools specifically for low-resolution refinement in CNS (see http://xray.utmb.edu/PMB/index.html#BPATCH). However, I agree with the advice given by most of my colleagues, refine isotropic B-factors in

Re: [ccp4bb] twin fraction varies between crystals?

2007-04-18 Thread Ian Tickle
Here's an interesting paper on "The Genesis of Twinned Crystals" (from 1945! - it's even printed on simulated aged paper and if you look closely the "aging" has an unrealistic plane-group pattern!): http://www.minsocam.org/msa/collectors_corner/arc/twinorig.htm It's by the eminent crystallograp

Re: [ccp4bb] Stop Refmac from refining B factors?

2007-04-18 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 07:40, Phil Jeffrey wrote: > Harry M. Greenblatt wrote: > > > You should be refining an overall temperature factor at that > > resolution. It's one of the choices in the list, instead of "isotropic". > > I disagree with this. At that (3.2 Angstrom) resolution I've

Re: [ccp4bb] Stop Refmac from refining B factors?

2007-04-18 Thread Eva Kirchner
Thank you Roberto, I saw that line in the log file, too. So it is as I feared: Refmac cannot be stopped from refining B-factors ;-) Maybe I'll use CNS... Eva 2007/4/18, Roberto Steiner < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 18 Apr 2007, at 14:39, Eva Kirchner wrote: (But I'm still curious about the B

Re: [ccp4bb] Stop Refmac from refining B factors?

2007-04-18 Thread Phil Jeffrey
Harry M. Greenblatt wrote: You should be refining an overall temperature factor at that resolution. It's one of the choices in the list, instead of "isotropic". I disagree with this. At that (3.2 Angstrom) resolution I've often found than a tightly restrained individual B-factor refinemen

[ccp4bb] disorder, solvent content, and diffraction limit

2007-04-18 Thread Mike S
Greetings, I've taken a protein (structure known) with some disordered termini and created a new truncated construct that lacks these disordered bits (approx. 5% by mass of the total protein). To my delight, the new construct crystallizes much more readily than the full-length one (more hits in

Re: [ccp4bb] Stop Refmac from refining B factors?

2007-04-18 Thread Roberto Steiner
On 18 Apr 2007, at 14:39, Eva Kirchner wrote: (But I'm still curious about the B-factor refinement when there is no "REFI BREF ISOT" in the com-file...) Eva, Refmac internal default is REFI BREF ISOT that's why even if you remove the above line from the com file (or deselect that op

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Stop Refmac from refining B factors?

2007-04-18 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Eva and Harry and others, I am not sure that an overall B-factor is the best solution for a 3.2 Å structure. In general, the true B-factors will vary a lot for different parts of the protein and poor diffracting proteins often have parts which are partially or completely disordered. An ov

Re: [ccp4bb] Stop Refmac from refining B factors?

2007-04-18 Thread Eva Kirchner
Thank you both, Mischa and Harry, I'll try overall B refinement. But I'm starting to think that my Refmac is somewhat crappy, I tried this before, and then all the B-factors were exactly the same. Now, I tried it again and they are not... Something's still wrong here. (But I'm still curious about

Re: [ccp4bb] twin fraction varies between crystals?

2007-04-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This is not definitive, but in a similar case - P21 with a~c, we could detect twinning from the moment plot in TRUNCATE with 15% of data.. (ie run SCALA and TRUNCATE option - scales poorly determined, and I think we fixed them to unity..) Eleanor That meant you could test the crystals at ho

[ccp4bb] SUMMARY: Getting started with twin refinement with SHELXL

2007-04-18 Thread Radisky, Evette S. Ph.D.
Thanks to everyone for all the great suggestions. Regarding which mtz to use as a starting point, advice was to either re-run scala selecting the option to output unmerged reflections, "scaled, unmerged & no outliers" under "Customize scala process" in ccp4i (Miguel Ortiz Lombardía), or to g

Re: [ccp4bb] twin fraction varies between crystals?

2007-04-18 Thread Radisky, Evette S. Ph.D.
Can you (or anybody else) expand upon this -- what would be a recommended screening protocol for twinning? Collect X degrees of data, scale, merge, run mmtbx.xtriage? How many degrees of data will it take to give a reliable estimate, and does this depend upon crystal orientation, SG, merohedral v

Re: [ccp4bb] Stop Refmac from refining B factors?

2007-04-18 Thread Harry M. Greenblatt
BS"D Dear Eva, You should be refining an overall temperature factor at that resolution. It's one of the choices in the list, instead of "isotropic". Hi, I have a little problem with B-factor refinement. I'm using the CCP4i interface, Refmac 5.2.0019, a resolution of 30-3.2 A (I tri

[ccp4bb] Stop Refmac from refining B factors?

2007-04-18 Thread Eva Kirchner
Hi, I have a little problem with B-factor refinement. I'm using the CCP4i interface, Refmac 5.2.0019, a resolution of 30-3.2 A (I tried 8-3.2 A as well, it doesn't make a big difference for this problem), and a current Rfree of 30.4%. Refmac refines the B-factors so that they are nearly the same

Re: [ccp4bb] twin fraction varies between crystals?

2007-04-18 Thread Ian Tickle
I seem to recall a discussion at some Study Weekend where someone reported a needle crystal in which the twin fraction appeared to vary continuously from 0 at one end of the needle to 0.5 at the other! You just had to make sure you picked the right end to collect the data! -- Ian > -Origina

Re: [ccp4bb] twin fraction varies between crystals?

2007-04-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This is a very common thing - twinning is a sort of accidental overlap of crystal fragments and thus will be different for diferent "crystals". ( Should a twinned object be called a crystal? Discuss) More serious - it is probably different for different parts of the data collection if your cr

Re: [ccp4bb] twin fraction varies between crystals?

2007-04-18 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi Mark, thus far, in the many cases where we had merohedral twinning, the twin fraction varied usually a lot, ranging from ~0.1-0.5 for the same crystallization conditions. So, it's a good idea to screen a couple of crystals and check their twin fractions (estimating the true twin fraction i