Re: [ccp4bb] coot: Show Symmetry

2007-12-04 Thread Tim Gruene
Your pdb-file should contain a line starting with CRYST1 containing cell 
dimensions and space group. Maybe this is not the case for your pdb-file?


What is the output of
grep CRYST1 pdffile
where you replace 'pdffile' with the name of the file you are loading into 
coot?


Tim

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Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A


On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Vineet Gaur wrote:


Hi All
i want to display symmetry molecules in COOT, but regularly getting the
following warning:
There are no model molecules that can display symmetry (Cryst1 problem).

How to troubleshoot this Cryst1 problem

thanks in advance

Vineet gaur



Re: [ccp4bb] coot: Show Symmetry

2007-12-04 Thread George M. Sheldrick
This happens if you try to read a .pdb file from SHELXL into Coot 
directly. SHELXL doesn't know the name of the space group (!), only the 
symmetry operators (with the advantage that it has no problems with 
non-standard settings) so it doesn't put the name of the space group 
onto the CRYST1 line. An elegant way around this problem is to read the 
.res file from SHELXL into Coot instead, or you can edit the CRYST1 line 
in the .pdb file.

George

Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS
Dept. Structural Chemistry, 
University of Goettingen,
Tammannstr. 4,
D37077 Goettingen, Germany
Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068
Fax. +49-551-39-2582


On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Tim Gruene wrote:

 Your pdb-file should contain a line starting with CRYST1 containing cell
 dimensions and space group. Maybe this is not the case for your pdb-file?
 
 What is the output of
   grep CRYST1 pdffile
 where you replace 'pdffile' with the name of the file you are loading into
 coot?
 
 Tim
 
 --
 Tim Gruene
 Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
 Tammannstr. 4
 D-37077 Goettingen
 
 GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
 
 
 On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Vineet Gaur wrote:
 
  Hi All
  i want to display symmetry molecules in COOT, but regularly getting the
  following warning:
  There are no model molecules that can display symmetry (Cryst1 problem).
  
  How to troubleshoot this Cryst1 problem
  
  thanks in advance
  
  Vineet gaur
  
 
 


Re: [ccp4bb] how to change a membrane protein into a water soluble protein?

2007-12-04 Thread Brenda Patterson

Another option is refolding which can increase soluble protein content and is
used routinely to achieve soluble protein such as the TIMPs

http://peds.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/7/8/1035

http://www.proteinscience.org/cgi/reprint/11/10/2493.pdf?ck=nck


that said, this is not true of all membrane proteins.

Addition of a fusion partner, MBP, to the normally membrane associated 
FMO3 has

been shown to generate stable, soluble protein and the addition of a fusion
protein allows purification downstream more easily.

Here is a paper where they did as the original poster suggested and tried
mutagenesis of hydrophobic regions, including a truncation of a membrane
anchor.  They achieved increased solubility with this in combination with use
of detergents.

Krueger SK, Siddens LK, Henderson MC, VanDyke JE, Karplus PA, Pereira CB,
Williams DE.
Abstract
C-Terminal truncation of rabbit flavin-containing monooxygenase isoform 2
enhances solubility.
Arch Biochem Biophys. 2006 Jun 15;450(2):149-56. Epub 2006 Mar 29.


cheers










Quoting Bil Clemons [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


There is also the soluble KcsA.

Computational design of water-soluble analogues of the potassium channel
KcsA. A. M. Slovic, H. Kono, J. D. Lear, J. G. Saven, and W. F. DeGrado
(2004) PNAS 101, 1828-1833


Bil


Bil Clemons, PhD
Assistant Professor of Biochemistry
Caltech
157 Broad Center
MC 114-96
Pasadena, CA 91125
(626) 395-1796
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]






From: Thomas J Magliery PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Thomas J Magliery PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:50:03 -0500
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] how to change a membrane protein into a water solub=

le

protein?
=20
It's hard. See:
=20
J Mol Biol. 2005 May 6;348(3):777-87.
X-ray structure of a water-soluble analog of the membrane protein
phospholamban:=20
sequence determinants defining the topology of tetrameric and pentameric
coiled
coils.
Slovic AM, Stayrook SE, North B, Degrado WF.
=20
Slovic, A. M., Summa, C. M., Lear, J. D.  DeGrado,
W. F. (2002). Computational design of a water-soluble
analog of phospholamban. Protein Sci. 12, 337=AD348.
=20
Li, H., Cocco, M. J., Steitz, T. A.  Engelman, D. E.
(2001). Conversion of phospholamban into a soluble
pentameric helical bundle. Biochemistry, 40,
6636=AD6645.
=20
Frank, S., Kammerer, R. A., Hellstern, S., Pegoraro, S.,
Stetefeld, J., Lustig, A. et al. (2000). Toward a high resolution
structure of phospholamban: design of
soluble transmembrane domain mutants.
Biochemistry, 39, 6825=AD6831.
=20
Tom
=20
=20
Daniel Jin wrote:

Hi,
I am wondering whether there is a way to turn a membrane protein with
known crystal structure into a water soluble protein by systematic
mutagenesis. I guess it should be doable if we introduce enough
hydrophilic residues on the surface. Has anyone tested this crazy idea
before? Thank you for your help.
Best,
Chen
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Assistant Professor
Department of Chemistry
 Department of Biochemistry
The Ohio State University
1043 Evans Laboratory
100 West 18th Ave.
Columbus, OH 43210-1185
=20
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(614) 292-1685 fax
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[ccp4bb] I have my bound ligand (I think), now what?

2007-12-04 Thread Brenda Patterson

Hello all,

right, I think I have found a ligand bound to my protein.

I used the COOT utility to find the ligands after reading in a model 
and library

file generated by sketcher of my ligand.  Now I am a bit unsure as to how to
proceed?  How can I 'accept' a state and/or refine it?

Maybe there is a better way to model my ligand into the electron density not
accounted for by my protein?


Any general suggestions or comments would be appreciated as I am very
inexperienced.

cheers

Brenda


Re: [ccp4bb] how to change a membrane protein into a water soluble protein?

2007-12-04 Thread Scott Pegan
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this paper but its an exact example how
to make a K channel soluble.

Roosild TP, Choe S.

Redesigning an integral membrane K+ channel into a soluble protein.
Protein Eng Des Sel. 2005 Feb;18(2):79-84. Epub 2005 Mar 23.
PMID: 15788421 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Scott


On Tue, December 4, 2007 4:04 am, Brenda Patterson wrote:
 Another option is refolding which can increase soluble protein content and
 is
 used routinely to achieve soluble protein such as the TIMPs

 http://peds.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/7/8/1035

 http://www.proteinscience.org/cgi/reprint/11/10/2493.pdf?ck=nck


 that said, this is not true of all membrane proteins.

 Addition of a fusion partner, MBP, to the normally membrane associated
 FMO3 has
 been shown to generate stable, soluble protein and the addition of a
 fusion
 protein allows purification downstream more easily.

 Here is a paper where they did as the original poster suggested and tried
 mutagenesis of hydrophobic regions, including a truncation of a membrane
 anchor.  They achieved increased solubility with this in combination with
 use
 of detergents.

 Krueger SK, Siddens LK, Henderson MC, VanDyke JE, Karplus PA, Pereira CB,
 Williams DE.
 Abstract
 C-Terminal truncation of rabbit flavin-containing monooxygenase isoform 2
 enhances solubility.
 Arch Biochem Biophys. 2006 Jun 15;450(2):149-56. Epub 2006 Mar 29.


 cheers










 Quoting Bil Clemons [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 There is also the soluble KcsA.

 Computational design of water-soluble analogues of the potassium channel
 KcsA. A. M. Slovic, H. Kono, J. D. Lear, J. G. Saven, and W. F. DeGrado
 (2004) PNAS 101, 1828-1833


 Bil

 
 Bil Clemons, PhD
 Assistant Professor of Biochemistry
 Caltech
 157 Broad Center
 MC 114-96
 Pasadena, CA 91125
 (626) 395-1796
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 




 From: Thomas J Magliery PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Thomas J Magliery PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:50:03 -0500
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] how to change a membrane protein into a water
 solub=
 le
 protein?
 =20
 It's hard. See:
 =20
 J Mol Biol. 2005 May 6;348(3):777-87.
 X-ray structure of a water-soluble analog of the membrane protein
 phospholamban:=20
 sequence determinants defining the topology of tetrameric and
 pentameric
 coiled
 coils.
 Slovic AM, Stayrook SE, North B, Degrado WF.
 =20
 Slovic, A. M., Summa, C. M., Lear, J. D.  DeGrado,
 W. F. (2002). Computational design of a water-soluble
 analog of phospholamban. Protein Sci. 12, 337=AD348.
 =20
 Li, H., Cocco, M. J., Steitz, T. A.  Engelman, D. E.
 (2001). Conversion of phospholamban into a soluble
 pentameric helical bundle. Biochemistry, 40,
 6636=AD6645.
 =20
 Frank, S., Kammerer, R. A., Hellstern, S., Pegoraro, S.,
 Stetefeld, J., Lustig, A. et al. (2000). Toward a high resolution
 structure of phospholamban: design of
 soluble transmembrane domain mutants.
 Biochemistry, 39, 6825=AD6831.
 =20
 Tom
 =20
 =20
 Daniel Jin wrote:
 Hi,
 I am wondering whether there is a way to turn a membrane protein with
 known crystal structure into a water soluble protein by systematic
 mutagenesis. I guess it should be doable if we introduce enough
 hydrophilic residues on the surface. Has anyone tested this crazy idea
 before? Thank you for your help.
 Best,
 Chen
 =20
 
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 --=20
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 Assistant Professor
 Department of Chemistry
  Department of Biochemistry
 The Ohio State University
 1043 Evans Laboratory
 100 West 18th Ave.
 Columbus, OH 43210-1185
 =20
 (614) 247-8425 office
 (614) 292-1685 fax
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Visiting Senior Research Specialist
Center for Pharmaceutical
Biotechnology
University of Illinois at Chicago


[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral Research Associate at Brookhaven National Laboratory

2007-12-04 Thread Allen M. Orville



POSTDOCTORAL RESEARCH ASSOCIATE - 
Project Title: “Novel Methods for Microcrystal Structure
Determination at NSLS and NSLS-II” 
Location: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY, U.S.A.

This new project is under the direction of A. M. Orville, and is also
associated with the PXRR group
(www.px.nsls.bnl.gov) at
Brookhaven National Laboratory (BNL). The PXRR group conducts
research, technology development, operations, and training at six
beamlines (X8, X12b, X12c, X25, X26c, X29) at the National Synchrotron
Light Source (NSLS). A long-term goal for the PXRR group is to create a
resource for macromolecular crystallography at NSLS-II, the new
synchrotron light source that is being created at BNL during the next
five to seven years.

Microcrystals only a few microns along an edge are often easy to obtain;
but, are typically of no use for traditional diffraction studies. In
contrast, the brightness and focused beam anticipated at NSLS-II provides
an ideal opportunity to use microcrystals for diffraction studies. A
major barrier that remains to be overcome is how to manipulate
microcrystals for structure determination. Part of the research strategy
will be to use a large number of randomly oriented microcrystals, from
each of which only a small fraction of the whole dataset is collected, in
order to build-up the complete dataset. Full _expression_ of these methods
may approach the physical limits of crystal diffraction and will clearly
help motivate the optimum performance of NSLS-II. Consequently, we will
develop novel microcrystallography methods at the NSLS and look forward
to utilizing the outstanding characteristics of NSLS-II facility. 

The position requires a Ph.D. in biochemistry, structural biology,
chemistry, or physics. Experience in macromolecular crystallography
and/or synchrotron x-ray sources is desired. The prospective candidate
must be able to interact with a diverse group of scientists and
engineers, as well as work independently. Send CV and contact information
for four mentors or referees to [EMAIL PROTECTED] referring to
Position No. FH4835.

AMO

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Upton, NY 11973-5000
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Re: [ccp4bb] how to change a membrane protein into a water soluble protein?

2007-12-04 Thread Narayanasami Sukumar
Another reference:

N. Sukumar, Y.Xu, D.L. Gatti, B.Mitra and F.S. Mathews
Structure of an Active Soluble Mutant of the Membrane-Associated
(S)-Mandelate Dehydrogenase
Biochemistry 40,9870-9878 (2001).

In this paper, the membrane protein is converted into the soluble
protein by replacing an intra-chain integral membrane-binding portion
(39 residues) by a segment from its closely related soluble homologue
(20 residues) and crystallized without any detergents.

Sukumar
-- 
N. Sukumar
NE-CAT, Building 436E
Argonne National Laboratory
9700 South Cass Avenue
Argonne, IL 60439
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tel: 630-252-0681
Fax: 630-252-0687




On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:06, Scott Pegan wrote:
 Don't know if anyone has mentioned this paper but its an exact example how
 to make a K channel soluble.
 
 Roosild TP, Choe S.
 
 Redesigning an integral membrane K+ channel into a soluble protein.
 Protein Eng Des Sel. 2005 Feb;18(2):79-84. Epub 2005 Mar 23.
 PMID: 15788421 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
 Scott
 
 
 On Tue, December 4, 2007 4:04 am, Brenda Patterson wrote:
  Another option is refolding which can increase soluble protein content and
  is
  used routinely to achieve soluble protein such as the TIMPs
 
  http://peds.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/7/8/1035
 
  http://www.proteinscience.org/cgi/reprint/11/10/2493.pdf?ck=nck
 
 
  that said, this is not true of all membrane proteins.
 
  Addition of a fusion partner, MBP, to the normally membrane associated
  FMO3 has
  been shown to generate stable, soluble protein and the addition of a
  fusion
  protein allows purification downstream more easily.
 
  Here is a paper where they did as the original poster suggested and tried
  mutagenesis of hydrophobic regions, including a truncation of a membrane
  anchor.  They achieved increased solubility with this in combination with
  use
  of detergents.
 
  Krueger SK, Siddens LK, Henderson MC, VanDyke JE, Karplus PA, Pereira CB,
  Williams DE.
  Abstract
  C-Terminal truncation of rabbit flavin-containing monooxygenase isoform 2
  enhances solubility.
  Arch Biochem Biophys. 2006 Jun 15;450(2):149-56. Epub 2006 Mar 29.
 
 
  cheers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Quoting Bil Clemons [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  There is also the soluble KcsA.
 
  Computational design of water-soluble analogues of the potassium channel
  KcsA. A. M. Slovic, H. Kono, J. D. Lear, J. G. Saven, and W. F. DeGrado
  (2004) PNAS 101, 1828-1833
 
 
  Bil
 
  
  Bil Clemons, PhD
  Assistant Professor of Biochemistry
  Caltech
  157 Broad Center
  MC 114-96
  Pasadena, CA 91125
  (626) 395-1796
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 
 
 
  From: Thomas J Magliery PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Thomas J Magliery PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:50:03 -0500
  To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
  Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] how to change a membrane protein into a water
  solub=
  le
  protein?
  =20
  It's hard. See:
  =20
  J Mol Biol. 2005 May 6;348(3):777-87.
  X-ray structure of a water-soluble analog of the membrane protein
  phospholamban:=20
  sequence determinants defining the topology of tetrameric and
  pentameric
  coiled
  coils.
  Slovic AM, Stayrook SE, North B, Degrado WF.
  =20
  Slovic, A. M., Summa, C. M., Lear, J. D.  DeGrado,
  W. F. (2002). Computational design of a water-soluble
  analog of phospholamban. Protein Sci. 12, 337=AD348.
  =20
  Li, H., Cocco, M. J., Steitz, T. A.  Engelman, D. E.
  (2001). Conversion of phospholamban into a soluble
  pentameric helical bundle. Biochemistry, 40,
  6636=AD6645.
  =20
  Frank, S., Kammerer, R. A., Hellstern, S., Pegoraro, S.,
  Stetefeld, J., Lustig, A. et al. (2000). Toward a high resolution
  structure of phospholamban: design of
  soluble transmembrane domain mutants.
  Biochemistry, 39, 6825=AD6831.
  =20
  Tom
  =20
  =20
  Daniel Jin wrote:
  Hi,
  I am wondering whether there is a way to turn a membrane protein with
  known crystal structure into a water soluble protein by systematic
  mutagenesis. I guess it should be doable if we introduce enough
  hydrophilic residues on the surface. Has anyone tested this crazy idea
  before? Thank you for your help.
  Best,
  Chen
  =20
  
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  it now.=20
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  Assistant Professor
  Department of Chemistry
   Department of Biochemistry
  The Ohio State University
  1043 Evans Laboratory
  100 West 18th Ave.
  Columbus, OH 43210-1185
  =20
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  (614) 292-1685 fax
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Re: [ccp4bb] I have my bound ligand (I think), now what?

2007-12-04 Thread Juergen Bosch

Hi Brenda,

you'll need a cif description file for your ligand which you will read 
in either Coot  or Refmac so that it will also refine correctly.
I usually get my cif's from the Dundee PRODRG server, you can either 
paste your current coordinates as ATOMS in the provided field or sketch 
your molecule as indicated on the website.

Here's the link:
http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/programs/prodrg/
Then once the cif file is generated you will need to include this in 
your refmac script with the following command:

#!/bin/tcsh -f
refmac5 \
   HKLIN $hklin HKLOUT $hklot \
  LIBIN YOUR_SMALL_MOLECULE.cif \
   XYZIN my_current.pdb XYZOUT $xyzot \
   EOF  $log
YOUR REFINEMENT PROTOCOL
EOF


Brenda Patterson wrote:


Hello all,

right, I think I have found a ligand bound to my protein.

I used the COOT utility to find the ligands after reading in a model 
and library
file generated by sketcher of my ligand.  Now I am a bit unsure as to 
how to

proceed?  How can I 'accept' a state and/or refine it?

Maybe there is a better way to model my ligand into the electron 
density not

accounted for by my protein?


Any general suggestions or comments would be appreciated as I am very
inexperienced.

cheers

Brenda




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[ccp4bb] PEG MW vs. cryoprotectivity

2007-12-04 Thread price
We've been having a discussion in the lab about whether or not 
middle-sized PEGs such as 4000 can be expected to serve as 
cryoprotectants (and if not, why certain commercial kits are 
formulated the way they are).  Can anybody shed some light / 
references on the question of the size of PEGs vs. their ability to 
help in freezing?

thanks,
Phoebe


---
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Assoc. Prof., Dept. of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
The University of Chicago
phone 773 834 1723
fax 773 702 0439
http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/01_Faculty/01_Faculty_Alphabetically.php?faculty_id=123
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[ccp4bb] skin on a drop

2007-12-04 Thread Yue Li
Hi All,

As we know, there is a skin on a crystallization drop, especially when the
drop contains PEG. Does anyone know what the skin is, a degraded protein ?
How to prevent it ?

Thanks

Simon


Re: [ccp4bb] skin on a drop

2007-12-04 Thread james whisstock
Hi

Try setting up at 4C can help

J
 Hi All,

 As we know, there is a skin on a crystallization drop, especially when the
 drop contains PEG. Does anyone know what the skin is, a degraded protein ?
 How to prevent it ?

 Thanks

 Simon
   


[ccp4bb] How to make a structure-based multiple sequence alignment on DALI server?

2007-12-04 Thread david wu
Hi all,

I want to produce structure-based multiple sequence alignment of my protein 
with five of its homologs on DALI server. However, when I tried the Database 
Search Form, only one homolog was picked up from PDB. If I align my protein 
with each homolog by the DaliLite Pairwise comparison, how can I combine them 
together? 

Thanks in advance.


Best regards,

Sincerely,

Dalei Wu
Drug Discovery and Design Center
Shanghai Institute of Materia Medica
Shanghai Institutes for Biological Sciences
Chinese Academy of Sciences
555 Zu Chongzhi Road, Shanghai, 201203, China
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2007-12-05


Re: [ccp4bb] How to make a structure-based multiple sequence alignment on DALI server?

2007-12-04 Thread James Irving
You can perform a multiple structural alignment using MUSTANG (
http://www.bx.psu.edu/arun/research/mustang/), which draws upon some of the
underpinnings of the DALI approach.
James