Re: [ccp4bb] DM - NCS averaging after phaser molecular replacement run-confused about coefficients

2008-04-07 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Not real advice, but be careful if Phaser and DM use the same column 
labels by default - best to assign them to something distinctive. I have 
had cases where  programs got confused between input and output.


And to be safe I would run REFMAC with the output model then use the FO 
PHIC FOM after a bit of refinement..


Eleanor



hari jayaram wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have a phaser molecular replacement solution for my membrane protein which
crystallized in spacegroup P3. The diffraction data is good to about 3.3 A.
The model I used had 39% homology to the given protein. A solvent content
analysis suggests that there probably are three dimers in the ASU ( to give
about 67% solvent)
Phaser sucessfuly found two dimers in the ASU with good density and a third
dimer with very weak almost non-existent density.
I am now trying to do some NCS-averaging using DM to see If I can improve
the desnity for dimer 3 and have a question about the different
co-efficients I should be using for the averaging DM run.

Question1:
The phaser output mtz file has a PHWT and a PHIC . For carrying out DM with
flattening, averaging and histogram matching which phases do I use PHIC or
PHWT along with observed Fo. Also for the weight do I use the FOM.

Question2:
The output mtz from DM run either way above , now has  a PHIDM and a PHWT
along with a FWT and FC. Which coefficients should I be using to get a map
after DM for building.

FWT and PHWT
or
Fo and PHIDM
or
FWT and PHIDM.


Thank you for your help
Hari

  


[ccp4bb] MrBump CCP4i task

2008-04-07 Thread Bossi, Roberto [Nervianoms]
Hi all,
I'm having problems to install the ccp4i task for MrBump 0.4.2.
The error message I get is the following
 
UnpackTaskArchive: uncompress failed to create
./install_MrBUMP-ccp4i/MrBUMP-ccp4i.tar
ExamineTaskArchive: failed to unpack temporary copy of
/home/linux/xtal/ccp4-6.0.2-all-packages/ccp4-6.0.2/ccp4i/MrBUMP-ccp4i.t
ar.gz
 
I've checked I can unpack that archive by tar -xvzf, and I think I've no
permission issues.
I'm running CCP4 6.0.2 with CCP4 interface 1.4.4.2 on a Red Hat 4.0
64bit machine.
Any help would be appreciated,
 
Thanks
Roberto
 

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[ccp4bb] New improved flexible licence for CCP4 libraries

2008-04-07 Thread Jim Naismith
Dear All,
We are happy to announce a change in CCP4 library distribution. 
The current CCP4 libraries can now be downloaded under v3 of LGPL. This
should now give all developers the security they need to use the current and
all future CCP4
libraries. We have always intended the CCP4 libraries to be freely
available for development. The new version of LGPL allowed us to satisfy the
legal concerns of STFC about UK law regarding liability issues. 

We are particularly grateful to the gpp4 initiative which has 
highlighted the problems the previous licence was causing.

See http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4license.php for further details.

Best
Jim Naismith

Chair of CCP4



 
The University of St Andrews is a charity registered in Scotland : No
SC013532


[ccp4bb] which concentrated salt has lowest vapour pressure?

2008-04-07 Thread Kay Diederichs

Dear all,

a protein which we work on is available in low quantity. The only 
crystallization screen we set up is completely clear, no precipitate, 
nothing.


Now we would like to modify the reservoirs of this screen, by adding 
LiCl or Ammoniumsulfate or ... , with the goal of reducing the vapour 
pressure, to at least get the protein concentration in the drop into the 
range where something happens.


Does anyone have advice as to which salt we should add (to the reservoir 
only)? AmSO4 is only soluble to 4M, LiCl goes to 10M. But vapour 
pressure reduction is not the same as molarity.


thanks for any insight,

Kay
--
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email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel +49 7531 88 4049 Fax 3183
Fachbereich Biologie, Universität Konstanz, Box M647, D-78457 Konstanz


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Re: [ccp4bb] which concentrated salt has lowest vapour pressure?

2008-04-07 Thread Poul Nissen

We normally use AmS or glycerol.

Poul
On 07/04/2008, at 15.46, Kay Diederichs wrote:


Dear all,

a protein which we work on is available in low quantity. The only  
crystallization screen we set up is completely clear, no  
precipitate, nothing.


Now we would like to modify the reservoirs of this screen, by adding  
LiCl or Ammoniumsulfate or ... , with the goal of reducing the  
vapour pressure, to at least get the protein concentration in the  
drop into the range where something happens.


Does anyone have advice as to which salt we should add (to the  
reservoir only)? AmSO4 is only soluble to 4M, LiCl goes to 10M. But  
vapour pressure reduction is not the same as molarity.


thanks for any insight,

Kay
--
Kay Diederichshttp://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel +49 7531 88 4049 Fax 3183
Fachbereich Biologie, Universität Konstanz, Box M647, D-78457 Konstanz


Re: [ccp4bb] which concentrated salt has lowest vapour pressure?

2008-04-07 Thread David Briggs
I'm not entirely sure this paper will answer your question, as I can't
access the full article at home, but I seem to remember it may contain
what you seek. It's certainly worth giving it another airing...

http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?S0907444905002726

Acta Cryst. (2005). D61, 490-493[ doi:10.1107/S0907444905002726 ]
Expanding screening space through the use of alternative reservoirs in
vapor-diffusion experiments
J. Newman

HTH

Dave

On 07/04/2008, Kay Diederichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all,

  a protein which we work on is available in low quantity. The only
 crystallization screen we set up is completely clear, no precipitate,
 nothing.

  Now we would like to modify the reservoirs of this screen, by adding LiCl
 or Ammoniumsulfate or ... , with the goal of reducing the vapour pressure,
 to at least get the protein concentration in the drop into the range where
 something happens.

  Does anyone have advice as to which salt we should add (to the reservoir
 only)? AmSO4 is only soluble to 4M, LiCl goes to 10M. But vapour pressure
 reduction is not the same as molarity.

  thanks for any insight,

  Kay
  --
  Kay Diederichs
 http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel +49 7531 88 4049 Fax 3183
  Fachbereich Biologie, Universität Konstanz, Box M647, D-78457 Konstanz




-- 

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Father  Crystallographer
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[ccp4bb] Crystallization: focus on memebrane proteins 2008

2008-04-07 Thread Stojanoff, Vivian
Crystallization: Focus on Membrane Proteins
June 18-22, 2008

http://www.nsls.bnl.gov/newsroom/events/workshops/2008/crys/

Purpose  Scope of Workshop:
The purpose of this course is to provide participants with hands-on experience 
of a variety of crystal growth methods. The course will address both 
conventional and non-conventional methods in membrane proteins. Introductory 
lectures will precede the practical sessions. Time for discussions and informal 
meeting with speakers and  tutors is scheduled. Participants will be divided 
into groups of four to five members according to their main interests and 
follow practical sessions during the course.A special session on cryogenic 
protection and crystal quality assessment of crystals will be conducted at the 
X6A beam line on the last day.

Intended Audience
Graduate students, post-doctoral fellows and research scientists interested in 
learning about different approaches to crystallization.

Selection Criteria
There is no selection criteria. The inclusion of a small resume and a statement 
of interest with the registration form are strongly recommended, as groups will 
be organized according to their common level.

Travel Grants
A grant from The International Union of Crystallography will support the 
attendance of a limited number of attendee's. Preference will be given to Young 
Scientists [graduate students, post-graduate students or post-doctoral fellows 
with a maximum age of 30 (exceptionally 35)] from developing countries. 
For additional inofrmation refer to the course webpages: 
http://www.nsls.bnl.gov/newsroom/events/workshops/2008/crys/ or contact the 
organizers.


In addition to submitting an Application Form for this workshop, all attendees 
must obtain a BNL guest appointment. Please register in BNL's Guest Information 
System  (https://fsd84.bis.bnl.gov/guest/guest.asp). Approval, which can take 
30 days or more, must be granted prior to attending this workshop.


Travel Grants

A grant from The International Union of Crystallography will support the 
attendance of a limited number of attendee's. Preference will be given to Young 
Scientists [graduate students, post-graduate students or post-doctoral fellows 
with a maximum age of 30 (exceptionally 35)] from developing countries. 


Re: [ccp4bb] OMIT map from Sfcheck

2008-04-07 Thread Michael Giffin
my model has 1600 atoms.  the memory allocation for the linux (worked)
and OS X (failed) binaries is the same:

 Sol_
 Sol_   -
 Sol_   --- SFCHECK --- /Vers 7.2.02; 01.10.2006/   -
 Sol_  Memory:   30 Mb  N_atom_max:  5  -
 Sol_   -
 Sol_

compiling from source or downloading the mac intel binary worked with no errors.

Thanks,

Mike

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Jovine Luca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 4 Apr 2008, at 01:36, Michael Giffin wrote:


  i get the same error on OS X 10.5.2 and 10.4.11:
 
 
   sfcheck -f refmac2.mtz -m refmac2.pdb -out y -nomit 2 -map
  
 
  the error:
  
   Open failed: Unit:  11, File: sfcheck_scr.dat (logical: sfcheck_scr.dat)
  BFONT COLOR=#FF!--SUMMARY_BEGIN--
  Last system error message: Bad file descriptor
   CCP4:   Open failed: File: sfcheck_scr.dat
   CCP4:   Open failed: File: sfcheck_scr.dat
  
 
  the binary file sfcheck_scr.dat exists.
 


  Hi Mike,

  I encountered the same exact issue under OS X not long ago, and it turned
 out to be caused by memory/atom limitations of Fink's sfcheck (I assume
 that's what you are using?):

  Sol_   --- SFCHECK --- /Vers 7.2.02; 01.10.2006/   -
  Sol_  Memory:   30 Mb  N_atom_max:  5  - = !!!

  so that using the sfcheck binary included with BALBES:

 Sol_ --- SFCHECK --- /Vers 7.02.4; 02.05.2007/ -
 Sol_ Memory: 60 Mb N_atom_max: 10 -

  solved the problem. How many atoms are you playing with?

  HTH, Luca

  
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  Karolinska Institutet
  Department of Biosciences and Nutrition
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[ccp4bb] Crystallization and cryo with Li at high concentration!

2008-04-07 Thread Lijun Liu

Hi all,

I have some crystals from a condition with a high concentration of  
LiCl (3.5M is a need).  The crystals look pretty, however I had no  
luck because they diffract very poorly (~8Å).  Dehydration pushes  
resolution to ~4 Å, however, it damages the crystal lattice and makes  
disorder especially in one direction.  One thing I learned is that  
LiCl releases a huge dilution heat at high concentration, to which my  
crystal seems to be very sensitive.  Does anyone have some successful  
experience in crystallization and cryo with LiCl at such a high  
concentration like 3.0 M?   Thanks a lot.


Lijun Liu, PhD
Institute of Molecular Biology
HHMI  Department of Physics
University of Oregon
Eugene, OR 97403
541-346-4080