Re: [ccp4bb] scala maxbat compile problems

2009-10-11 Thread Kay Diederichs

jpd,

I have seen this type of error message in situations where some memory 
limit was exceeded.


Based on googling with 'common relocation truncated to fit ', the 
memory limit has something to do with a COMMON block exceeding its max 
size, see -

http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Fortran/comp.lang.fortran/2008-10/msg00471.html

Other than that posting suggests, it is the ifort compiler which 
understands -mcmodel=medium ; how the same is done with gfortran I don't 
know.


Furthermore, more googling reveals that -mcmodel=medium also seems to 
require -i-dynamic (as an option to ifort).


So I think you should try ifort compilation whith those options - but it 
might mean that also some of the libraries have to be recompiled.


HTH,

Kay

jp d schrieb:

hi
more information.
scala compiles with maxbat set anywto 11750,
but fails with maxbat 11760

jpd

--- On Fri, 10/9/09, jp d yo...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: jp d yo...@yahoo.com
Subject: [ccp4bb] scala maxbat compile problems
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 3:16 PM
hi,
we were hitting maxbat limits so i downloaded the source
and increased maxbat whereever i found it to 2
compiling fails at scala with errors like this:

scala.f:(.text+0x5e0): relocation truncated to fit:
R_X86_64_32S against symbol `rfile_' defined in COMMON
section in scala.o
scala.f:(.text+0x601): relocation truncated to fit:
R_X86_64_32S against symbol `rfile_' defined in COMMON
section in scala.o

Ubuntu 8 , 64 bit , ccp4-6.1.2

is there some configure option i am missing?

thanks
jpd




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Re: [ccp4bb] pdbcur failed with the error message 'child process exited abnormally'

2009-10-11 Thread martyn . winn
The big problem here is that it doesn't recognise the NOANISOU
keyword. So I presume that you are picking up an old version of
CCP4, or more likely a Coot version of pdbcur. Mmmm the fact that
the banner doesn't report user or date or time suggests a dodgy
version.

I would have to defer to a Mac person on how to set this up 
properly. I guess you should do a which pdbcur in a terminal
window to confirm the problem, and then fix your PATH somehow.

As Fred says, it is much easier to use grep -v ANISOU foo.pdb and I
believe you can do this even on a Mac :)

Martyn

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Raja Dey
Sent: Sat 10/10/2009 12:37 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] pdbcur failed with the error message 'child process exited 
abnormally'
 
Hello,
I remember PDBCUR was running before updating CCP4 to 6.1.1 in my 
macbook. I am trying to remove the aniso U's from a pdb file and I stuck. I 
might need some additional setup for this to run. Is there anyone who can tell 
what to do? I attached the error message below:
   
###
 ###
 ###
 ### CCP PROGRAM SUITE: pdbcur  ##
 ###
 User:   Run date:   Run time:


 Please reference: Collaborative Computational Project, Number 4. 1994.
 The CCP4 Suite: Programs for Protein Crystallography. Acta Cryst. D50, 760-763.
 as well as any specific reference in the program write-up.

 PDB file /Users/rajadey/yong/cns/alternate/final/phenix/may21_1_1_001.pdb has 
been read in.

 --
  Input cards

Data line--- NOANISOU
Unrecognised keyword NOANISOU
***
* Information from CCP4Interface script
***
The program run with command: pdbcur XYZIN 
/Users/rajadey/yong/cns/alternate/final/phenix/may21_1_1_001.pdb XYZOUT 
/Users/rajadey/yong/cns/alternate/final/phenix/may21_pdbset1.pdb 
has failed with error message
child process exited abnormally


Thanks... Raja


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[ccp4bb] To get the crystal faster...

2009-10-11 Thread james09 pruza
Dear crystallographers,

Sorry for the non-ccp4 query. I am new to this field and need some
suggestions. My question is, why some protein takes longer time to
crystallize, say 6-8 months, and it is the only condition to get the
crystals.? What are the ways to get the crystals faster.

The crystal appears with 60% of 2-Methyl, 2-4 Pentane Diol and only at 4
degree with very low concentration of NaCl.  I have got some of the
sugggestions earlier from the CCP4-discussion board for microseeding, but it
did not work.

All suggestions from the experts are welcome.

Thanks.
James


Re: [ccp4bb] To get the crystal faster...

2009-10-11 Thread William G. Scott

It will help more if we send it to James ;)


On Oct 11, 2009, at 9:15 AM, gauri misra wrote:


Dear James,

As there are indications of protein degradation that have been  
suggested in
previous postings, i think adding some protease inhibitors right at  
the

stage of purification may provide some help.

Moreover, you can also try various additives as specified in one of  
the
Hampton screens (certainly if the protein requires some cofactor for  
its

functioning that would be the priority as an additive).

You have just given one condition. Is it that crystals are visible  
only in

this particular condition?
If there are positive results in some other condition we can think of
playing around that too as an alternative strategy.

Hope this little piece of suggestion may help you at some point.

Best wishes

Gauri


Re: [ccp4bb] To get the crystal faster...

2009-10-11 Thread Jürgen Bosch

Hi James,

have you tried limited proteolysis on your protein and see if you can  
identify a stable fragment. Then re-clone and re-crystallize your  
protein. Or a very stupid suggestion, how does your size exclusion  
peak look like ? What you're not running your protein over a SEC to  
polish it ?


Good luck,

Jürgen

On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:27 AM, james09 pruza wrote:


Dear crystallographers,

Sorry for the non-ccp4 query. I am new to this field and need some  
suggestions. My question is, why some protein takes longer time to  
crystallize, say 6-8 months, and it is the only condition to get the  
crystals.? What are the ways to get the crystals faster.


The crystal appears with 60% of 2-Methyl, 2-4 Pentane Diol and only  
at 4 degree with very low concentration of NaCl.  I have got some of  
the sugggestions earlier from the CCP4-discussion board for  
microseeding, but it did not work.


All suggestions from the experts are welcome.

Thanks.
James


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[ccp4bb] To set a crystal tray with protein and Trypsin protease.

2009-10-11 Thread jwangliang
Hello,

I am sorry to put this question which didn¹t related to the CCP4 software.
I couldn¹t get the crystals from the protein only. So I want to try the
different way to work it out. I hear that it is possible to set a crystal
tray of protein with Trypsin protease. I will be very appreciated about who
will provide some detail of this method about how to do this., e.g.  How
much trypsin shall I add into the protein, How long shall I mix protease
with the proteins before I set the tray.   Thanks for all.
 I will also put on the summary of all the answers.

Another question is about protein express in insect cell.  10% of my protein
was degradated after  1st purification. Is anyway that I can prohibit this
degradation?



Thanks


Jing


[ccp4bb] problems with molprobity in coot

2009-10-11 Thread Thomas Cleveland
Hi everyone,

I am trying to use molprobity to check a structure in coot (platform is
64-bit vista).  I followed the instructions found here to set up molprobity:
http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~lohkamp/coot/wincoot-faq.html .  From the logs,
it seems like reduce runs OK (it says that it Added 6076 hydrogens). 
However, at the very end, I get the message BL WARNING:: reduce didnt run
ok, so stop here!  It seems like probe never runs.

Does anyone know how to solve this?

Thanks,
Thomas Cleveland
(graduate student, Johns Hopkins University)


Re: [ccp4bb] To get the crystal faster...

2009-10-11 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Sometimes it is better that it takes time for crystals to appear. 
Remember that crystallisation is a purification procedure. A way to 
decrease the speed of crystallisation is to use Dunlop's and Haze's drop 
dilution method (K. V. Dunlop  B. Hazes (2003). When less is more: a 
more efficient vapour-diffusion protocol. Acta Cryst. D59, 1797-1800).


HTH,

Fred.
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Re: [ccp4bb] To set a crystal tray with protein and Trypsin protease.

2009-10-11 Thread Parthasarathy Sampathkumar
Hi Jing,

Methods to perform In site proteolysis are available in the following
publications:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0005094


http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v4/n12/abs/nmeth1118.html

Good Luck,
-Partha


On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:13 PM, jwangliang jwangli...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello,

 I am sorry to put this question which didn’t related to the CCP4 software.
 I couldn’t get the crystals from the protein only. So I want to try the
 different way to work it out. I hear that it is possible to set a crystal
 tray of protein with Trypsin protease. I will be very appreciated about who
 will provide some detail of this method about how to do this., e.g.  How
 much trypsin shall I add into the protein, How long shall I mix protease
 with the proteins before I set the tray.   Thanks for all.
  I will also put on the summary of all the answers.

 Another question is about protein express in insect cell.  10% of my
 protein was degradated after  1st purification. Is anyway that I can
 prohibit this degradation?



 Thanks


 Jing



Re: [ccp4bb] To set a crystal tray with protein and Trypsin protease.

2009-10-11 Thread Parthasarathy Sampathkumar
It should be In situ and not 'In site'. Sorry for the typo error.
-Partha

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Parthasarathy Sampathkumar 
spart...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jing,

 Methods to perform In site proteolysis are available in the following
 publications:

 http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0005094


 http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v4/n12/abs/nmeth1118.html

 Good Luck,
 -Partha



 On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:13 PM, jwangliang jwangli...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello,

 I am sorry to put this question which didn’t related to the CCP4 software.

 I couldn’t get the crystals from the protein only. So I want to try the
 different way to work it out. I hear that it is possible to set a crystal
 tray of protein with Trypsin protease. I will be very appreciated about who
 will provide some detail of this method about how to do this., e.g.  How
 much trypsin shall I add into the protein, How long shall I mix protease
 with the proteins before I set the tray.   Thanks for all.
  I will also put on the summary of all the answers.

 Another question is about protein express in insect cell.  10% of my
 protein was degradated after  1st purification. Is anyway that I can
 prohibit this degradation?



 Thanks


 Jing