Re: [ccp4bb] IUCr committees, depositing images

2011-10-19 Thread Alun Ashton
Sorry for my boring response……… ‘Short’ bit: Has anyone here considered DOI’s onto data? Facility sites within Europe and planning to make this available, I hope to do a proof of principle this year on data from Diamond (volunteers?). But as an example the ISIS neutron site on the same campus

Re: [ccp4bb] Dennis Ritchie

2011-10-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Also http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/oct/13/dennis-ritchie He was considered important enough to be highlighted in a general interest newspaper. Eleanor On 10/18/2011 10:30 AM, Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Miguel, There are a couple of

Re: [ccp4bb] IUCr committees, depositing images

2011-10-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Has anyone raided the point that while archiving is good, it will only be generally useful if the image HEADERS are informative and use a comprehensible format - and the data base is documented... Eleanor On 10/19/2011 10:45 AM, Alun Ashton wrote: ‘Short’ bit:

[ccp4bb] Biological assembly

2011-10-19 Thread Kayashree M
Dear users, We have a structure which is a homodimer in the asymmetric unit.PISA predicts most probable assembly as a dimer but thisdimeric assembly is different from what is solved (offcoursewe can generate the symmetry equivalent molecule and get that).My question is - is it necessary that we

Re: [ccp4bb] Biological assembly

2011-10-19 Thread Frederic VELLIEUX
Hi, What you must deposit is what is present in the asymmetric unit of the crystal. The HEADER cards (and the publication) can describe the most likely biological assembly. Why is that: there is no reason why the crystal should conform to the biological function (and associated quaternary

Re: [ccp4bb] IUCr committees, depositing images

2011-10-19 Thread Graeme Winter
Hi Eleanor, So far I have managed to lurk on this one - keeping an eye on things but not getting involved. However this has prompted me to respond! Has anyone raided the point that while archiving is good, it will only be generally  useful if the image HEADERS are informative and use a

Re: [ccp4bb] newbie question about data processing

2011-10-19 Thread Phil Evans
If you don't want to build Pointless yourself, there are binaries for Linux OSX (10.6) on our ftp site here (not Windows I'm afraid) ftp://ftp.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/pub/pre/pointless-1.6.6.linux .../pointless-1.6.6.osx10.6 You might also want to update the ccp4i task with

Re: [ccp4bb] Biological assembly

2011-10-19 Thread eugene . krissinel
Dear Kavya, If I understand your question correctly, it is about the choice of asymmetric unit for your deposition. In case of dimeric asymmetric unit (ASU), there are, indeed, a few valid possibilities and you arrive to just one of them in the course of structure solution. What you decide to

[ccp4bb] merging parts of models in COOT

2011-10-19 Thread Leonid Sazanov
Hi, If I have two somewhat different overlayed models, is it possible in COOT to replace part of one model by another? Similarly to O command: merge_atoms from_molecule residue_start residue_end to_molecule residue_start ? That's a useful feature in O, but could not find it so far in COOT.

[ccp4bb] Fixed! Intermittent floating point exception in Phaser-2.3 under 64-bit Linux

2011-10-19 Thread Randy Read
Many thanks to Alexander Schiffer, Petr Leiman and Stephen Cusack for drawing our attention to this problem and supplying test cases to reproduce it. It was an obscure problem in which a Phaser executable compiled on a 32-bit Linux system would occasionally (but not reproducibly) crash when

Re: [ccp4bb] merging parts of models in COOT

2011-10-19 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Leonid, To merge part of molecule B into molecule A you do in in steps: - - remove the part from A that you want to replace - - remove from B everything you do not want to merge with A - - merge B into A (Calculate-Merge...) - - change the newly

Re: [ccp4bb] merging parts of models in COOT

2011-10-19 Thread Debreczeni, Judit
You can also try Extensions-Modelling-Replace fragment (usage self-explanatory) -- AstraZeneca UK Limited is a company incorporated in England and Wales with registered number: 03674842 and a registered office at 2

[ccp4bb] how can merge two PDB

2011-10-19 Thread Afshan Begum
Hello CCP4 user I have collected a data set 2.1 for my complex. Actually after  first run of Rafmac i can see the density for my inhibitor but the problem is my inhibitor is 6 KDa and i know the sequence of my inhibitor as well this inhibitor already crystallize with other protein molecule

Re: [ccp4bb] MR - small coiled coil, 1.65A = 1.000 solutions, all of them wrong

2011-10-19 Thread Sergei Strelkov
Dear Napoleão, I will try to summarize our experience and give some suggestions. Few reasons why MR with coiled coils can be very tricky, such as their asymmetric shape and their ability to overlap onto themselves upon a shift and rotation (for a heptad-based coiled coil, this would be a shift

Re: [ccp4bb] how can merge two PDB

2011-10-19 Thread Tanner, John J.
3 ways: cat mol1 mol2 mol3 Use an editor such as nedit to cut and paste. Coot merge molecules function. Sent from Jack's iPad On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Afshan Begum afshan...@yahoo.commailto:afshan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello CCP4 user I have collected a data set 2.1 for my complex.

Re: [ccp4bb] merging parts of models in COOT

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 12:20 +0100, Leonid Sazanov wrote: Hi, If I have two somewhat different overlayed models, is it possible in COOT to replace part of one model by another? Similarly to O command: merge_atoms from_molecule residue_start residue_end to_molecule residue_start ? That's a

Re: [ccp4bb] MR - small coiled coil, 1.65A = 1.000 solutions, all of them wrong

2011-10-19 Thread Filip Van Petegem
Hello, James Holton can probably tell more about this, but it is possible to create a library of potential coiled coil structures with differences in number of residues, superhelical radius, and residues per superhelical turn. A library of 300 theoretical coiled coils was generated and, in

Re: [ccp4bb] Biological assembly

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
My question is - is it necessary that we deposit a structure, which PISA predicted as most probable assembly in PDB as an asymmetric unit biological assembly or can we deposit a dimer (asymmetric unit) and give explanation for the biological assembly according to what PISA predicted. As

Re: [ccp4bb] merging parts of models in COOT - SOLVED

2011-10-19 Thread Leonid Sazanov
Dear all, thanks for replies! Indeed, text editing or other combinations of manipulations will do the trick of course, but I wanted to do it in one command, as I need to make many substitutions in a very big model as I go along. Suggested (replace-fragment) (or also (copy-residue-range)) do

Re: [ccp4bb] how can merge two PDB

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
Why not do the molecular replacement - 6kDa is rather small but it most likely will work On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 06:13 -0700, Afshan Begum wrote: Hello CCP4 user I have collected a data set 2.1 for my complex. Actually after first run of Rafmac i can see the density for my inhibitor but the

Re: [ccp4bb] how can merge two PDB

2011-10-19 Thread Bosch, Juergen
why don't you read in that chain in Coot and run the find ligand option with flexible ligand turned on and select that 6kDa ligand ? You should also choose Fo-Fc map to fit the ligand to maybe at 2.7 sigma. You might have to split up the ligand into pieces, not sure what the limitations in

Re: [ccp4bb] how can merge two PDB

2011-10-19 Thread Afshan Begum
 Dear Juergen Many thank for your response yes you have excatly understand my question we  have a MR solution of the rest of our protein and  just asking how to make my life easier to not built de novo 45-50 residues. so i could not find the option in coot find ligand so, from where i get it?

Re: [ccp4bb] how can merge two PDB

2011-10-19 Thread Miller, Mitchell D.
Hi Afshan, in Coot select calculate -- other modeling tools -- find ligands In 0.6.2, there is a message that ligands are limited to 400 atoms or less. Regards, Mitch -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Afshan Begum Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [ccp4bb] Biological assembly

2011-10-19 Thread Kayashree M
Dear users,Thank you all for the suggestions.With RegardsKavya-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Re: [ccp4bb] Biological assembly

2011-10-19 Thread James Stroud
On Oct 19, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Kayashree M wrote: We have a structure which is a homodimer in the asymmetric unit. PISA predicts most probable assembly as a dimer but this dimeric assembly is different from what is solved (offcourse we can generate the symmetry equivalent molecule and get that).

[ccp4bb] WaterTidy fails in windows ccp4i

2011-10-19 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear CCP4ers, I am trying to run watertidy from the windows gui to add waters, but get the error message below. Since the gui is so short, I don't think I am missing anything, so what I am doing wrong? Is there an alternative water-picker in the gui? I used to use watpick, but I believe that was

Re: [ccp4bb] WaterTidy fails in windows ccp4i

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 12:45 -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: Is there an alternative water-picker in the gui? watertidy is not a water-picker -- I'd jump in myself, if I weren't so good at whistling. Julian, King of Lemurs

Re: [ccp4bb] WaterTidy fails in windows ccp4i

2011-10-19 Thread Jacob Keller
Well, I see that it fixes/edits waters, but it seems to add them too, according to the documentation Add/Tidy Waters - Watertidy This task rationalises waters at the end of refinement. See program documentation: Watertidy, Distang. Is there a program in the gui that adds waters, if not this

[ccp4bb] buried surface area

2011-10-19 Thread Jyotica Batra
Dear users, Are there any programs to calculate percentage of buried surface area that is polar vs nonpolar? Thanks in advance Thanks! Jyotica

Re: [ccp4bb] WaterTidy fails in windows ccp4i

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
Not sure where you quoting this from. I am looking at the official documentation here http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/watertidy.html which clearly states This program has two purposes. 1. It moves the H2O coordinates to the symmetry related position nearest to the host molecule.

Re: [ccp4bb] buried surface area

2011-10-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 20:17 +0100, Jyotica Batra wrote: Dear users, Are there any programs to calculate percentage of buried surface area that is polar vs nonpolar? Thanks in advance Thanks! Jyotica Surface Racer includes breakdown by atom type (polar vs nonpolar) in the output:

Re: [ccp4bb] Biological assembly

2011-10-19 Thread Bostjan Kobe
On 19/10/11 9:19 PM, eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: In case when ASU has the same multiplicity (number of chains) as the probable biological assembly, the latter is an ASU as well. In such a case, the PDB suggests to choose ASU in the form of that assembly, purely

[ccp4bb] Job opening for a crystallographer to join the Structural Motility team at the Curie Institute Paris, France.

2011-10-19 Thread Houdusse-Juille Anne
Job opening for a crystallographer to join the Structural Motility team at the Curie Institute Paris, France. We are looking for a post-doctoral fellow to join the team Structural Motility at the Curie Institute (Paris 5e) directed by Anne Houdusse. The position is immediately available

Re: [ccp4bb] Biological assembly

2011-10-19 Thread Kayashree M
Respected Sir, The space group is H3. if I generate the symmetry, it appears to be a dimer of trimers stacked one above the other with a rotation of 60 deg wrt each other, like this - A1, A2, A3 (in one trimer) stacked uponB1, B2, B3 (second trimer). So structure that is in the ASUis with A1-B1