Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Jeremy Tame
I agree with Petr. For a rigid body displacement the RMSD is not much use as a descriptor. Such a displacement can be described by a translation along and rotation around a direction, or rotation-translation matrices. These will allow someone else to reproduce the displacement, but the RMSD wi

Re: [ccp4bb] do you think it is interesting?

2012-06-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
Sorry to come late to this discussion- I think the actin and tubulin people already reverted "polymer" to its etymological use- google "actin polymerization" Another example of infinite polymers formed by domain swapping (and the surprises you can get trying to engineer a molecular switch): http

Re: [ccp4bb] Mlphare problem

2012-06-19 Thread Appu kumar
Thank you for your reply, I am running Malphare through CCP4 GUI interface. I am giving mtz file and Se.pdb file as input and running it. I do not know running Malphare through script. Please help me with heavy atom refinement in Malphare. On 20 June 2012 03:49, Pete Meyer wrote: > It's not cle

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread James Holton
Because sometimes it is important to know how much the structure moved relative to the unit cell, such as before and after a round of refinement. -James Holton MAD Scientist On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Petr Leiman wrote: > Would anyone be kind enough to explain what kind of information does

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Petr Leiman
I am not sure I understood what you are asking. But let me explain my question a little further. If two structures are not identical, then the RMSD is a good enough parameter to describe the superposition: this many atoms were used in the superposition and they can be moved in such a way that t

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Jacob Keller
Is part of your question based there being many ways to superimpose structures, which there are? JPK On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Petr Leiman wrote: > Would anyone be kind enough to explain what kind of information does the > "RMSD" for two not-yet-superimposed structures transmit? > > If tw

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Petr Leiman
Would anyone be kind enough to explain what kind of information does the "RMSD" for two not-yet-superimposed structures transmit? If two structures are indeed identical but are apart spatially, then it is more appropriate to calculate the COM and the inertia tensor for both structures and repor

Re: [ccp4bb] Dihederal Angle Calculation

2012-06-19 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Herb, yes, I know one: phenix.pdb_interpretation model.pdb write_geo_files=true Optionally you can give it ligand's cif files too: phenix.pdb_interpretation model.pdb ligands.cif write_geo_files=true Pavel On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Axelrod, Herbert L. < haxel...@slac.stanford.edu>

Re: [ccp4bb] Model submission

2012-06-19 Thread Chen, Yu-Wai
I echo with Nat and support depositing both structures. Despite the fact that the 38 residues are disordered, these are 2 different proteins (chemically). The disordered residues may not lead to a better model, but they do carry information. They are there and still take up physical space, thus

Re: [ccp4bb] Dihederal Angle Calculation

2012-06-19 Thread Christian Roth
Hi, if I remember correctly Molprobity computes all that angles and put them in a table for comparison to the ideal values. Best Regards Christian Am Dienstag 19 Juni 2012 20:11:18 schrieben Sie: > Hi, > Does anyone know of a program that computes _all_ dihedral (phi/psi/chi) > angles from crys

[ccp4bb] Dihederal Angle Calculation

2012-06-19 Thread Axelrod, Herbert L.
Hi, Does anyone know of a program that computes _all_ dihedral (phi/psi/chi) angles from crystal structures. That is, including angles from alternate conformations? Many Thanks, Herb Axelrod Staff Scientist Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lightsource

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread James Holton
I have a jiffy script for just that here: http://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/pickup/rmsd you run it like this: ./rmsd model1.pdb model2.pdb output looks like this: 1156 atom pairs found RMSD(CA )= 0.516368 (129 CA pairs) RMSD(all)= 0.506422 (1156 atom pairs) RMSD(Bfac)= 0.489973 MAXD(all)= 1.232

Re: [ccp4bb] Questions on unknown density?

2012-06-19 Thread Shya Biswas
Hi, Try modeling a zinc close to the histidine and then do one round of refinement the density will improve close to that area, generally a zinc ion coordinated to histidine also has a water molecule close to the zinc. HTH, Shya On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Lianying Jiao wrote: > Dear all, >

[ccp4bb] Mlphare problem

2012-06-19 Thread Appu kumar
Dear CCP4 user, I am facing problem in running Mlphare for *HEAVY ATOM REFINEMENT and PHASE CALCULATO. It is running successfully but in output log file i am not getting any FOM for acentric. Log file output of one of the cycle is ** * *** Finished refinement cycl

Re: [ccp4bb] Model submission

2012-06-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 11:07 -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: > What extra insight does the full-length protein give, i.e., why not > just chuck it? > It proves that the N-terminus does not have a strong influence on the rest of the structure. Other words, it's OK to draw conclusions about the full-len

[ccp4bb] Protein-Ligand Binding Energetics

2012-06-19 Thread Yuri Pompeu
Hi everyone, I have several protein-ligand crystal structures of different ligands bound to a combination of mutants of the same enzyme. I wanted to look at the energetics of these complexes based on the crystal structures. Is there a program or suite of programs that could calculate DeltaG of co

[ccp4bb] protein interaction motif databases

2012-06-19 Thread stanley5101
Hi, Is there such a database that will allow me to search for particular structural motifs involved in protein interactions.  For example: search for any complex in the PDB wherein interactions between the 2 proteins are at least partly mediated by a 3(10) helix. thanks, Alan

Re: [ccp4bb] Model submission

2012-06-19 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:35 AM, RHYS GRINTER wrote: > There's no significant difference between the high res and low res proteins > in the shared region (amino acid 38+) (r.m.s.d 0.46 A), and the while there > is broken density for the first 38aa from the full length data it's too poor > to mo

Re: [ccp4bb] Model submission

2012-06-19 Thread Jacob Keller
What extra insight does the full-length protein give, i.e., why not just chuck it? JPK On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:35 AM, RHYS GRINTER wrote: > Dear All, > > I'm working out the finer details on a structural paper for submission to > JBC. I'm having a slight problem with how to present my data.

[ccp4bb] LCP Tools & Technologies Workshop, August 2nd, 2012, Boston, MA

2012-06-19 Thread Vadim Cherezov
This is a second announcement of a hands-on workshop on "Lipidic Cubic Phase (LCP) Tools & Technologies" that will take place on the MIT campus in Boston on August 2nd 2012 following the ACA 2012 Annual Meeting. Due to several cancellations there is a limited number of spots became available on

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 17:31 +0200, Robbie Joosten wrote: > What if the displacement is a translation and a rotation? Excellent point. A slight modification of this http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Print_the_shifts_in_individual_atom_positions will do as follows grep

[ccp4bb] Model submission

2012-06-19 Thread RHYS GRINTER
Dear All, I'm working out the finer details on a structural paper for submission to JBC. I'm having a slight problem with how to present my data. I've got a high resolution (1.46 A) truncated structure of the protein with the N-terminal 38aa removed. I've also got data from lower resolution (2.

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Bosch, Juergen
a Baltimorease flood of emails :-) Hi from "across the street" Jürgen On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Ed Pozharski wrote: just do this one-liner (assuming that your numbering is not messed up and you have "the first atom") grep 'ATOM 1' model1.pdb model2.pdb | cut -d: -f 2 | cut -c 31-54 | a

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
just do this one-liner (assuming that your numbering is not messed up and you have "the first atom") grep 'ATOM 1' model1.pdb model2.pdb | cut -d: -f 2 | cut -c 31-54 | awk '{printf "%s ",$0;}' | awk '{print sqrt(($1-$4)^2+($2-$5)^2 +($3-$6)^2);}' On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:04 +, Claudia M

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Bosch, Juergen
USF has something but beware it's not a GUI :-) Moleman2 Jürgen On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Claudia Millán Nebot wrote: Hello everyone :) I would like to know if it exist some tool that allows to calculate RMSD between 2 pdbs that are identic, but just displaced in space. It should not make

[ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Claudia Millán Nebot
Hello everyone :) I would like to know if it exist some tool that allows to calculate RMSD between 2 pdbs that are identic, but just displaced in space. It should not make a superposition, beause if this is the case it will just say that RMSD is 0 . I know is not such a difficult problem in terms

Re: [ccp4bb] llg is negative in phaser

2012-06-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 16:43 +0800, LISA wrote: > Hi all, > > does anyone solve their structure by molecular replacement with > phaser with LLG < 0? > Thanks > > lisa AFAIU, this means that your estimate of the solvent content is too low. If you increase that, eventually you should get positive

Re: [ccp4bb] Questions on unknown density?

2012-06-19 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Check anomalous map. Likely a Zn Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD 21205 Phone: +1-410-614-4742 Lab: +1

Re: [ccp4bb] Questions on unknown density?

2012-06-19 Thread Yuri Pompeu
Hi, Without looking at your model/maps it is difficult to make a really educated guess. By looking at the single screen shot you attach, I would say it could be a couple of different things, in order of likelihood based on a single screenshot (at whatever level of confidence this assures): 1-Zn

Re: [ccp4bb] llg is negative in phaser

2012-06-19 Thread Randy Read
Dear Lisa, It is actually reasonably common that a clear solution (large TFZ) is found in Phaser with a negative LLG. The negative LLG tells you that the model doesn't agree with the data as well as one would expect, given what you have told Phaser about the completeness of the model and its a

[ccp4bb] llg is negative in phaser

2012-06-19 Thread LISA
Hi all, does anyone solve their structure by molecular replacement with phaser with LLG < 0? Thanks lisa