Re: [ccp4bb] how to calculate the volume of a small molecule

2020-11-04 Thread Tan, Kemin
Dear all,

Is there a way to calculate or estimate the volume of a small molecule within 
CCP4 or with other programs?

Thanks,

Kemin



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[ccp4bb] Log graphs not opening with CCP4i and Windows 10

2020-11-04 Thread Mark
Anyone run into the loggraph utility not opening on Windows 10? If not then any 
ideas what to check if it does not open?

Mark



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Re: [ccp4bb] scale and merge suggestions

2020-11-04 Thread Nicolas Foos
Hi Almudena, 

did you cut the res. after the merge of your "individual" datasets ? or you cut 
for each and then you merged? 
Because I will probably go for the first, I merge and then I decide where to 
cut. If you cut for each, maybe you "miss" the gain provide by the redundancy 
you have cumulated using all the data. 

If I mis understood what you did, and return a bad answer, sorry. 

And to really answer your question, I will say : I stick to a combination of 
the "standard" stats, CC 1/2 mainly, I/sig and if you expect anomalous, CC Ano 
and SigAno. 
My choice would be conditioned also by the strategy for the phasing. 
Hope to help. 


De: "Almudena Ponce Salvatierra"  
À: "CCP4BB"  
Envoyé: Mercredi 4 Novembre 2020 17:30:29 
Objet: [ccp4bb] scale and merge suggestions 

Hello everyone, 
I have collected 6 small datasets from a crystal, each from a different point 
on the crystal to avoid radiation damage, and there is some overlap among them, 
as follows: 

- dts1: 0-90 degrees 
- dts2: 60-150 degrees 
- dts3: 120-210 degrees 
- dts4: 180-270 degrees 
- dts5: 240-330 degrees 
- dts6: 300-390 degrees 

Diffraction is very poor and, after processing, I've cut resolution at around 5 
Angstroms for all of them. The space group is C2. Feeding the 6 of them to 
scale_and_merge in Phenix gives the attached output. Does anybody who has 
merged such low-resolution anomalous data before know whether this is a "good" 
indicator (meaning there's a tiny light at the end of the tunnel) or rather 
not? 

Any suggestions? (besides the obvious "go back to the lab and grow new 
crystals") 

My aim is to combine these phases with a partial molecular replacement solution 
and a native dataset at 3.5 Angstroms. Hopefully, then I would be able to 
finish building the model. 

Thanks a tone in advance! 

Best, 

Almudena 




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Re: [ccp4bb] scale and merge suggestions

2020-11-04 Thread Jon Cooper
Hello, it would be useful to see how the merging of the normal data looks in 
addition to the anomalous, which could be a bit better, I fear. Are you 
expecting significant anomalous differences e.g. Se-Met, S with long 
wavelength, H-atom, etc? You should have quite high redundancy with all that 
data even with monoclinic. HTH a bit. Jon Cooper

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On 4 Nov 2020, 16:30, Almudena Ponce Salvatierra wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I have collected 6 small datasets from a crystal, each from a different point 
> on the crystal to avoid radiation damage, and there is some overlap among 
> them, as follows:
>
> - dts1: 0-90 degrees
> - dts2: 60-150 degrees
> - dts3: 120-210 degrees
> - dts4: 180-270 degrees
> - dts5: 240-330 degrees
> - dts6: 300-390 degrees
>
> Diffraction is very poor and, after processing, I've cut resolution at around 
> 5 Angstroms for all of them. The space group is C2. Feeding the 6 of them to 
> scale_and_merge in Phenix gives the attached output. Does anybody who has 
> merged such low-resolution anomalous data before know whether this is a 
> "good" indicator (meaning there's a tiny light at the end of the tunnel) or 
> rather not?
>
> Any suggestions? (besides the obvious "go back to the lab and grow new 
> crystals")
>
> My aim is to combine these phases with a partial molecular replacement 
> solution and a native dataset at 3.5 Angstroms. Hopefully, then I would be 
> able to finish building the model.
>
> Thanks a tone in advance!
>
> Best,
>
> Almudena
>
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[ccp4bb] PostDoc position DNAorigami and cryoTEM, France

2020-11-04 Thread Gaetan Bellot

Dear all,

	I would like to bring your attention to the open postdoctoral position 
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	Specifically, our laboratory develops functional DNA origami 
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	Applicants must have a Ph.D. and should have a strong background in 
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	Candidates should send an inquiry with CV and have one or two 
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Re: [ccp4bb] R free rising

2020-11-04 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Nika,

XDS probably did what you asked it to do ;-)

This is, however, not a problem. You only need to refine for a couple
of rounds longer to gain independence of your Rfree set. No need to
reassign them. Depending on the refinement program, it may take many
rounds. With Refmac (or shelxl), it does not take very long.

Wenn you plot the LLgain, listed at the end of the refmac log-file, and
its curve flattens out, your Rfree reflections should be independent
and not model-biased anymore.

Best regards,
Tim

On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 13:18:06 +
Nika Žibrat  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Two days ago I was asking about R free rising. The problem was xds
> adds R free flags already and then re-introduced them in Phenix,
> causing R free to rise. I would like to thank you for your answers,
> they were most helpful.
> 
> Best,
> Nika
> 
> 
> From: Nika Žibrat
> Sent: ponedeljek, 02. november 2020 11:26
> To: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk
> Subject: R free rising
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> I am trying to solve an X-ray structure of a protein of which the
> structure is already known. My aim is to only seek for ligands
> (soaking) and interpret any conformational changes. Since I am using
> a model with 100% sequence identity from PDB I am not doing Autobuild
> after Molecular phasing and continue directly with phenix.refine
> according to reccomendations (10 rounds). In accordance with X-triage
> I am also using NCS default settings in the refinement.
> 
> 
> 
> This refinement produces solid R free and R work values around 0.29
> and 0.22. The problem becomes when I want to manually edit the
> structure, correct the loops which are changed upon binding of the
> ligand, and correct any outliers. This results in R free slightly
> lower than R work. Upon refining, R work drops normally while R free
> rises significantly (for 0.2 -0.3). I have been trying to crack this
> for a few days with no success.
> 
> 
> 
> I read that slightly lower R free can be normal in such cases but
> nevertheless both R values should drop, and haven't found anything
> about the big rise of this value after refinement. It feels like I am
> missing something, since this is my first time solving a structure.
> Any advice?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Nika
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [ccp4bb] R free rising

2020-11-04 Thread Nika Žibrat
Hello,

Two days ago I was asking about R free rising. The problem was xds adds R free 
flags already and then re-introduced them in Phenix, causing R free to rise.
I would like to thank you for your answers, they were most helpful.

Best,
Nika


From: Nika Žibrat
Sent: ponedeljek, 02. november 2020 11:26
To: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: R free rising


Hello,



I am trying to solve an X-ray structure of a protein of which the structure is 
already known. My aim is to only seek for ligands (soaking) and interpret any 
conformational changes. Since I am using a model with 100% sequence identity 
from PDB I am not doing Autobuild after Molecular phasing and continue directly 
with phenix.refine according to reccomendations (10 rounds). In accordance with 
X-triage I am also using NCS default settings in the refinement.



This refinement produces solid R free and R work values around 0.29 and 0.22. 
The problem becomes when I want to manually edit the structure, correct the 
loops which are changed upon binding of the ligand, and correct any outliers. 
This results in R free slightly lower than R work. Upon refining, R work drops 
normally while R free rises significantly (for 0.2 -0.3). I have been trying to 
crack this for a few days with no success.



I read that slightly lower R free can be normal in such cases but nevertheless 
both R values should drop, and haven't found anything about the big rise of 
this value after refinement. It feels like I am missing something, since this 
is my first time solving a structure. Any advice?



Thank you,

Nika





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