[ccp4bb] Is there a gold standard binding-site hydrophobicity score?

2013-10-31 Thread Francois Berenger

Dear list,

Is there a way that for a binding site (defined as the protein surface 
atoms N Angstroms around a ligand molecule) we can assign a (preferably 
normalized) hydrophobicity score to the binding site?


- I would prefer something that I can run offline rather than
  a webserver (but a webserver would be better than nothing).

- it should be a published, sound method

The use-case is that I would like to rank some binding sites
in terms of hydrophobicity. Like in binding site A is more hydrophobic
than binding site B (with the required score backing the claim).

Thanks a lot,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] Data mining interactions in the PDB

2013-10-28 Thread Francois Berenger

On 10/29/2013 03:23 AM, Katherine Sippel wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone knew of a software or server to mine the PDB
for a specific class of interactions? I've tried PDBeMotif without much
luck and I thought I'd check to see if there was an alternative before I
go re-inventing the wheel.


Maybe this one (SuMo):
http://sumo-pbil.ibcp.fr/cgi-bin/sumo-welcome

paper:
http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/20/3929.full

Or this one (Drugsite):
https://drugsite.msi.umn.edu.

paper:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ci4002537


Cheers,
Katherine

--
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--
Best regards,
Francois Berenger.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fberenger


Re: [ccp4bb] Advise on setting up/ maintaining a Ubuntu cluster

2013-07-30 Thread Francois Berenger

Be careful that running data intensive jobs over NFS
is super slow (at least an order of magnitude compared
to writing things on a local disk).
Not only the computation is slow, but you may be slowing down
all other users of the cluster too...

F.

On 07/30/2013 11:28 PM, Adam Ralph wrote:

Dear Sergei,

  Second point is probably easier to do. An alternative to NFS is
sshfs. The
advantage is that it uses SSH which is installed by default and
configured the
same way. If you generate key pairs you can use ssh or sshfs without a
password.
Check this page below;

http://www.howtoforge.com/mounting-remote-directories-with-sshfs-on-ubuntu-11.10


 Typically LDAP is being used for centralised authentication but NIS
is probably
just as good. Page below is about the client setup.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication


 Both of the above are more likely to survive upgrades.

Adam


Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 6.3.0 PBS/qsub configuration

2013-07-02 Thread Francois Berenger

You need to source the CCP4 config file.
At my site:

# for Bash
source /usr/local/src/ccp4/ccp4-6.3.0/setup-scripts/ccp4.setup-sh

I guess that would be the first command in the script
you send to your cluster via qsub.

Regards,
F.

On 07/02/2013 11:55 PM, AFL wrote:

Dear Group Members,

  I'm attempting to configure CCP4 installation for the batch job
submission and have encountered numbers of problems.

  The one that is currently haunting me is the error message:

can't read CCP4I_TCLTK: no such variable
while executing
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/tclsh $0 -- ${1+$@}
(file /share/apps/software/ccp4/share/ccp4i/bin/ccp4ish line 9)


  The variable in question is defined when the CCP4 is running in
interactive shell.

  I have also added an 'echo $CCP4I_TCLTK' statement to the 'Command to
set up CCP4' which outputs (correct location for tclsh):

/share/apps/software/ccp4/bin


  However, the same statement added to the 'Command to run CCP4i' outputs:

/share/apps/software/ccp4/bin -r /tmp/software/1_import.def


  Our system is build on Rocks 6.1(Emerald Boa, CentOS 6.3).
  The qsub is currently run with the following command:

qsub -V -q little -l nodes=1:ppn=1


  I would highly appreciate suggestion on how to solve this
configuration problem.

Best regards, Andrzej Lyskowski



Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] insertion code problem

2013-06-26 Thread Francois Berenger
I think pdbset from CCP4 can renumber a PDB and hence get rid of the 
uggly insertion codes.


On 06/26/2013 03:33 PM, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote:

Dear Rain,
Insertion codes are still a sore point for many CCP4 programs and one of
the reasons I prefer Buster over Refmac. Refmac5 does not remove
insertion codes so I suspect the problem was with autoMR. The easiest is
to superimpose your search model with insertion codes onto the pdb file
which came out of the autoMR procedure. You could use lsqkab, but I
think you can also do it in Coot. Then you continue refinement with this
superimposed model. However, when I refined some structure with
insertion codes in Refmac last week, Refmac created LINKR gap
records for the inserted residues, cutting all peptide links. With an
editor I had to change the gap to TRANS and then it worked.
Good luck!
Herman


*Von:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *Im
Auftrag von *MAGGIE
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 26. Juni 2013 04:07
*An:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
*Betreff:* [ccp4bb] insertion code problem

Dear group,

I have a insertion code question.  I used molecular replacement
(CCP4, autoMR) to solve two structures: one is monomer, and another
one is tetramer.  The model I used is one chain of a dimer and the
model has insertion code.  After molecular replacement and
refinement using refmac5 in CCP4, the new structures lost the
insertion code, and the residues were numbered consecutively.

Can anyone tell me how to keep the insertion code in the new structures?

Thank you,

Rain



Re: [ccp4bb] Gnuplot: how to plot with resolution values as labels on x-axis?

2013-06-24 Thread Francois Berenger

On 06/25/2013 12:36 AM, Tim Gruene wrote:

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Hello Kay,

the rotation can be achieved with 'set xtics rotate by 30'

I did not know about xticlabels, suggested by Abhinav - very useful!


My preferred gnuplot reference:

http://security.riit.tsinghua.edu.cn/~bhyang/ref/gnuplot/index-e.html

The original site seems down unfortunately
(http://t16web.lanl.gov/Kawano/gnuplot/).


Best,
Tim

On 06/24/2013 04:54 PM, Kay Diederichs wrote:

Dear Gnuplot users,

you all know the crystallographic tables which have a column of
resolution values, and columns of crystallographic indicators (R,
I/sigma, ... whatever). Assuming that I want to plot the indicator
in column 2 as a function of resolution, I can simply say

plot 'table.dat' us 2

but the problem is now that I would like to have the resolution
values as labels, so instead of 0 1 2 3 4 5 ... I would like to
have 30.6 5.72 3.90 3.17 2.64 ... or so. Furthermore these labels
might be fairly wide, so I would like to rotate them, by (say) 30°
or even 90°. In the past, I seem to remember that I have manually
positioned the labels, as individual text strings. This can be done
for a single plot ... but then again, we live in the 3rd millenium
and there must be a better way. Can Gnuplot take the labels from
the file and put them into the right place? Could anyone please
share the Gnuplot magic for doing so?

thanks,

Kay


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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
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Re: [ccp4bb] Active site volume calculator

2013-06-06 Thread Francois Berenger

On 06/06/2013 08:47 AM, Bosch, Juergen wrote:

Hi Yuri,

http://fpocket.sourceforge.net
http://sts-fw.bioengr.uic.edu/castp/calculation.php


I think GHECOM also compute this.
GHECOM uses morpho maths operators in 3D. Quite beautiful.

http://strcomp.protein.osaka-u.ac.jp/ghecom/


Just to name 2
Jürgen

On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Yuri Pompeu wrote:


Dear BB,
I am sorry for posting off-topic but it is hard not to ask when you know you 
can get a good answer ;-)

I need to calculate the volume of several active sites. Nothing fancy, just a 
number for comparison sake.
I understand there are probably 10 different ways/programs and I would 
appreciate some feedback.

cheers


..
Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins University
Bloomberg School of Public Health
Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
Baltimore, MD 21205
Office: +1-410-614-4742
Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
Fax:  +1-410-955-2926
http://lupo.jhsph.edu



Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 8?

2013-06-06 Thread Francois Berenger

On 06/07/2013 06:10 AM, Ho Leung Ng wrote:

Hello,

  Are there any issues with crystallography related software on
Windows 8, especially with PyMol or Coot?


The operating system you are mentioning is unobservable, non causal
and has a response time far greater than one second.
To me, as an engineer, these are all very serious problems.

Here we run CentOS on the xtal-related workstations and
graphical software like pymol (even in 3D stereo) work fine.

Best regards,
Francois.


Thank you,
Ho


Ho Leung Ng
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Assistant Professor, Department of Chemistry
h...@hawaii.edu


Re: [ccp4bb] Screening a protein surface for interaction sites

2013-05-29 Thread Francois Berenger

On 05/29/2013 04:30 PM, Gang Dong wrote:

Try FTsite: http://ftsite.bu.edu/.


I have seen people using metapocket:

http://projects.biotec.tu-dresden.de/metapocket/


Gang

On Wed, May 29, 2013 09:17, Karsten Niefind wrote:

Dear colleagues,

please allow me to ask crystallography experts for advice in a
bioinformatics issue:

Which methods (programs, servers) would you use and recommend to search
computationally on the surface of a protein/protein complex ( 1100 aa)
for concave and
convex interaction sites with potential ligands of any kind
(preferentially other proteins and
peptides, but also nucleic acids or small metabolites and with emphasis on
potential, i.e. if
no concrete ligand is known)?

Thanks for any help from

Karsten Niefind


---
Karsten Niefind
University of Cologne
Department of Chemistry
Institute of Biochemistry
Otto-Fischer-Str. 12-14
D-50674 Cologne
Tel.: +49 221 470 6444
Fax: +49 221 470 3244



Re: [ccp4bb] PISA interface question

2013-05-13 Thread Francois Berenger

On 05/13/2013 06:34 PM, Evgeny Osipov wrote:

Hello everybody,
I am trying to evaluate solvatation energy of my protein and.
Unfortunately the protein highly glycosilated and it seems that PISA
does not take into account hydrogen bonds between mannose from one
molecule and symmetry related molecule.
Is there any way to tell PISA to use ligands in calculations of the
assembly solvatation energy.


Isn't it a job for APBS?

http://www.poissonboltzmann.org/apbs


[ccp4bb] new phaser and threads

2013-04-03 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

Is there a way to tell the new phaser to not
use more than N threads when running?

I have a problem with it overloading some cluster
nodes.

Thanks a lot,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] Child Killed error in SCALA

2013-03-07 Thread Francois Berenger

You can try to run your program under strace in order to
get more info about what went wrong.
Look at the end of the trace to have an idea.

strace your program and parameters

On 03/08/2013 02:47 AM, Roger Rowlett wrote:

OK, here is a strange one: I have 4 client machines (3 absolutely
identical hardware) all running ccp4i from a central server and 2 of the
4 machines (always the same 2) will fail when running a certain scala
job with a child killed error. I can run the same job on the 2 good
machines. All the machines call the same ccp4 source file in .tcshrc.
I'm stumped. It's probably some sort of cryptic permissions error or
something like that. Anyone seen anything like this and have some clue
as to the origin of the crash? AFAIK, it only happens running scala in
6.3.0. The home directories for users are served via NFS, but that
should be the same for all machines.

Log file follows:


!-- CCP4 HTML LOGFILE --
pre#CCP4I VERSION CCP4Interface 2.2.0
#CCP4I SCRIPT LOG scala
#CCP4I DATE 05 Mar 2013  14:28:22
#CCP4I USER xrdcamp4
#CCP4I PROJECT chem385
#CCP4I JOB_ID 4
#CCP4I SCRATCH /tmp/xrdcamp4
#CCP4I HOSTNAME malagueta
#CCP4I PID 18904
/pre

***
* Information from CCP4Interface script
***
The program run with command: /usr/local/xtal/ccp4-6.3.0/bin/scala HKLIN
/home/xrdcamp4/chem385/Chem385-2013Srefinaloutput.mtz HKLOUT
/tmp/xrdcamp4/chem385_4_1_mtz.tmp SCALES
/home/xrdcamp4/chem385/chem385_4.scala ROGUES
/home/xrdcamp4/chem385/chem385_4_rogues.log NORMPLOT
/home/xrdcamp4/chem385/chem385_4_normplot.xmgr ANOMPLOT
/home/xrdcamp4/chem385/chem385_4_anomplot.xmgr PLOT
/home/xrdcamp4/chem385/chem385_4_surface_plot.plt CORRELPLOT
/home/xrdcamp4/chem385/chem385_4_correlplot.xmgr ROGUEPLOT
/home/xrdcamp4/chem385/chem385_4_rogueplot.xmgr
has failed with error message
child killed: kill signal
***


#CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 child killed: kill signal
#CCP4I TERMINATION TIME 05 Mar 2013  14:28:22
#CCP4I MESSAGE Task failed



Re: [ccp4bb] compiling Fortran 77 code on a Linux box (using gfortran ?)

2013-03-06 Thread Francois Berenger

Hi,

The command:
$ aptitude install fort77
would install an f77 command on Ubuntu/Debian Linux.
In fact that's a wrapper for f2c, but maybe it behaves like
a real f77 compiler, I would give it a try personnally.

On 03/06/2013 06:48 PM, vellieux wrote:

Hello,

For those who still know the Fortran language and its Fortran 77
variant, I used to have a g77 compiler here (Linux box), and now on the
new box it's no longer g77 but gfortran.

When compiling Fortran77 code (these are the flags used for compilation:
-o ../bin/$1 -std=legacy -Wno-globals -w -O3 -malign-double
-funroll-loops -ffast-math -fno-second-underscore $1.f , followed by the
libraries on that same compile line)

I get errors (at run time) of the type:

At line 138 of file program.f (unit = 6, file = 'stdout')
Fortran runtime error: Missing initial left parenthesis in format

When looking at this code (which compiled perfectly well using g77 - I
removed the flag -fno-globals which doesn't seem to exist any more in
gfortran) the Fortran code that I see appears to have all parentheses in
the correct places.

Any idea of what must be done with existing Fortran 77 code in order to
get it to compile and run with gfortran ? Otherwise any idea which
compiler should be used to compile Fortran 77 code ?

Thanks in advance,

Fred.



[ccp4bb] Thanks for the new graphical CCP4 installer

2013-02-14 Thread Francois Berenger

It is easy to use and even nice looking.

Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] Any tool to calculate surface accessible by ... another protein?

2013-02-12 Thread Francois Berenger

On 02/13/2013 04:51 AM, Emmanuel Levy wrote:

Hello,

I have been looking for a tool to measure the Protein accessible
surface area, which could be defined exactly as the solvent ASA
except with a probe of larger radius.

Most tools that calculate ASA however do not work with a probe radius
of a size equal to 10 or 50 Angstroms. Plus, ideally one would like to
know the largest probe size that can access each atom or residue. So
using classic ASA programs means one would have to run it ~30 times,
each time with different probe radius for each protein.

So my question is, do you know of a tool that could help us in
obtaining this type of information?


Without any guarantee, you may try Voroprot:

http://code.google.com/p/baltymus/wiki/Tutorial

I think it would never crash, whatever the probe size.


Thanks in advance for any hint,
All the best,

Emmanuel



[ccp4bb] pdbset: filtering out ANISOU lines

2012-12-06 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

Would it be possible to have pdbset take care of only the ATOM
lines in a given PDB?

I managed to make it do what I want but in case there are
ANISOU lines, I want to ignore them.
Currently, I'm using grep before pdbset, but I would prefer
to avoid it as I am doing some computational experiment which is
quite data intensive.

If there is a way to filter out ANISOU lines or
to work only on ATOM lines with pdbset, then I
would be very happy.

Thanks a lot,
Francois.


[ccp4bb] thanks god for pdbset

2012-12-04 Thread Francois Berenger

Especially the renumber command that changes
residue insertion codes into an increment of
the impacted residue numbers.

Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] adding some user-defined graphical objects in a PDB file (and displaying them)

2012-10-28 Thread Francois Berenger

On 10/27/2012 05:32 AM, Pete Meyer wrote:

Just out of curiosity, why use PDB format instead of converting PDB into
a format readable by a more general 3d graphics program and combining
with your cube/sphere/line segment there?


I want to interact with the scene.
Rotate, view, zoom, change protein representation, etc.
So, if I go for some pymol-supported format,
I will do all my visual inspection in pymol.


Pete

Francois Berenger wrote:

Hello,

For some new project, I'd like to be able to generate things
and store them in PDB format.

For example, a triangle, a line segment, a square,
a cube, a sphere, an arrow, etc.
Being able to change the color and line width would be nice.

Is there some official recommended way of doing this?

Is there some software able to read and display such
graphical annotations of PDB files?
I'll also need the format description in that case.

I want to be able to process a PDB file and store the result
of my processing in the same PDB file as some kind of annotation.

My current way of doing this is to discretize my objects as H atoms
in some other output PDB file, but that's just a temporary workaround.

My current search got me this:
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/eccc1/
So, maybe there is some support for what I am looking for into
Chimera.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions,
Francois.




Re: [ccp4bb] adding some user-defined graphical objects in a PDB file (and displaying them)

2012-10-28 Thread Francois Berenger
For those interested, I think I'll go for Chimera and its support for 
.bild files.


And that will be the end of this not so much xtal-related topic. ;)
Sorry for the noise.

Regards,
F.

On 10/29/2012 09:47 AM, Francois Berenger wrote:

On 10/27/2012 05:32 AM, Pete Meyer wrote:

Just out of curiosity, why use PDB format instead of converting PDB into
a format readable by a more general 3d graphics program and combining
with your cube/sphere/line segment there?


I want to interact with the scene.
Rotate, view, zoom, change protein representation, etc.
So, if I go for some pymol-supported format,
I will do all my visual inspection in pymol.


Pete

Francois Berenger wrote:

Hello,

For some new project, I'd like to be able to generate things
and store them in PDB format.

For example, a triangle, a line segment, a square,
a cube, a sphere, an arrow, etc.
Being able to change the color and line width would be nice.

Is there some official recommended way of doing this?

Is there some software able to read and display such
graphical annotations of PDB files?
I'll also need the format description in that case.

I want to be able to process a PDB file and store the result
of my processing in the same PDB file as some kind of annotation.

My current way of doing this is to discretize my objects as H atoms
in some other output PDB file, but that's just a temporary workaround.

My current search got me this:
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/eccc1/
So, maybe there is some support for what I am looking for into
Chimera.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions,
Francois.




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[ccp4bb] adding some user-defined graphical objects in a PDB file (and displaying them)

2012-10-25 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

For some new project, I'd like to be able to generate things
and store them in PDB format.

For example, a triangle, a line segment, a square,
a cube, a sphere, an arrow, etc.
Being able to change the color and line width would be nice.

Is there some official recommended way of doing this?

Is there some software able to read and display such
graphical annotations of PDB files?
I'll also need the format description in that case.

I want to be able to process a PDB file and store the result
of my processing in the same PDB file as some kind of annotation.

My current way of doing this is to discretize my objects as H atoms
in some other output PDB file, but that's just a temporary workaround.

My current search got me this:
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/eccc1/
So, maybe there is some support for what I am looking for into
Chimera.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] adding some user-defined graphical objects in a PDB file (and displaying them)

2012-10-25 Thread Francois Berenger

On 10/26/2012 12:16 PM, James Stroud wrote:

This sounds like something that a PDB file is not intended to do. I think 
everyone has universally agreed to the PDB specification at the RCSB, which 
makes no provisions for arbitrary objects, as cool as they would be.

But you could put your information into REMARK records, which are free-form. 
Maybe you could then find some people to honor your specification or build an 
implementation yourself...


21st century solution


The simplest way, would be to write a converter that embeds a pymol script 
into REMARK records and a preprocessor for pymol that extracts them and feeds them into 
the pymol stream.


That's an idea.
I may have a look at Pymol's support for user-defined object indeed 
(specification and rendering).



If you write the implementation then you have a de facto standard. It would 
take a handful of lines of code. Write it in python and claim the mantle of 
coolness and the disdain of python detractors everywhere!


I was looking for something already existing, as I guess
I'm not the first person to need this (for productivity reasons also).


You could set up a home page using wikispaces or even the pymol wiki, pointing 
to your implementation that you keep on github.


I do have a github page, and do open source what's worth it. ;)

Thanks,
F.


James


On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Francois Berenger wrote:


Hello,

For some new project, I'd like to be able to generate things
and store them in PDB format.

For example, a triangle, a line segment, a square,
a cube, a sphere, an arrow, etc.
Being able to change the color and line width would be nice.

Is there some official recommended way of doing this?

Is there some software able to read and display such
graphical annotations of PDB files?
I'll also need the format description in that case.

I want to be able to process a PDB file and store the result
of my processing in the same PDB file as some kind of annotation.

My current way of doing this is to discretize my objects as H atoms
in some other output PDB file, but that's just a temporary workaround.

My current search got me this:
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/eccc1/
So, maybe there is some support for what I am looking for into
Chimera.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] adding some user-defined graphical objects in a PDB file (and displaying them)

2012-10-25 Thread Francois Berenger

On 10/26/2012 12:16 PM, James Stroud wrote:

This sounds like something that a PDB file is not intended to do. I think 
everyone has universally agreed to the PDB specification at the RCSB, which 
makes no provisions for arbitrary objects, as cool as they would be.


I see that there was a proposal for extension in order to support
kind of what I need:
Annotating PDB files with scene information
Gregory S. Couch, Eric F. Pettersen, Conrad C. Huang, Thomas E. Ferrin
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/02637855953O#
doi = 10.1016/0263-7855(95)3-O,

An interesting citation from the paper:
We propose that the extensions to the PDB presented here
be adopted by the molecular modeling community for in-
corporation into visualization programs.


But you could put your information into REMARK records, which are free-form. 
Maybe you could then find some people to honor your specification or build an 
implementation yourself...


21st century solution


The simplest way, would be to write a converter that embeds a pymol script 
into REMARK records and a preprocessor for pymol that extracts them and feeds them into 
the pymol stream.

If you write the implementation then you have a de facto standard. It would 
take a handful of lines of code. Write it in python and claim the mantle of 
coolness and the disdain of python detractors everywhere!

You could set up a home page using wikispaces or even the pymol wiki, pointing 
to your implementation that you keep on github.


James


On Oct 25, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Francois Berenger wrote:


Hello,

For some new project, I'd like to be able to generate things
and store them in PDB format.

For example, a triangle, a line segment, a square,
a cube, a sphere, an arrow, etc.
Being able to change the color and line width would be nice.

Is there some official recommended way of doing this?

Is there some software able to read and display such
graphical annotations of PDB files?
I'll also need the format description in that case.

I want to be able to process a PDB file and store the result
of my processing in the same PDB file as some kind of annotation.

My current way of doing this is to discretize my objects as H atoms
in some other output PDB file, but that's just a temporary workaround.

My current search got me this:
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/eccc1/
So, maybe there is some support for what I am looking for into
Chimera.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] calculating dialectric properties of enzyme active site

2012-10-08 Thread Francois Berenger

On 10/07/2012 12:02 AM, Boaz Shaanan wrote:

Hi

If you want to calculate the electrostatic properties of your protein/mutants 
you can use Delphi or APBS. Calculation of the dielectric constants is most 
challenging. I think that these two programs use some approximations to 
estimate the variation of dielectric constants between the outside (water with 
epsilon = 80 and inside with epsilon = 4 or whatever values you use as input) 
but I'm not sure they output those values.


For, APBS, the epsilon values used can be found in the
.in file generated by pdb2pqr if you use it to generate
the file driving APBS.

 However, the variation is taken into account when reporting the 
electrostatic potential which you can display using PyMol or 
UCSF-chimera. As for the hydrophobicity - there are hydrophobicity 
scales around (whether you believe them or not is a different matter) 
which you can use to display on the surface, again by Pymol or Chimera 
(and probably many other programs).


  My 2p/2c thoughts.

Boaz


Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.
Dept. of Life Sciences
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Beer-Sheva 84105
Israel

E-mail: bshaa...@bgu.ac.il
Phone: 972-8-647-2220  Skype: boaz.shaanan
Fax:   972-8-647-2992 or 972-8-646-1710






From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Yarrow Madrona 
[amadr...@uci.edu]
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:48 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] calculating dialectric properties of enzyme active site

Hello CCP4 list readers,

Does anyone know how to calculate the dielectric properties of an enzyme
active site? I would like to compare the polarity/hydrophobicity of
similar proteins and different mutants.

Thank you.


--
Yarrow Madrona

Graduate Student
Molecular Biology and Biochemistry Dept.
University of California, Irvine
Natural Sciences I, Rm 2403
Irvine, CA 92697



Re: [ccp4bb] residues forming the surface of a cavity

2012-10-04 Thread Francois Berenger

On 10/04/2012 04:09 PM, sreetama das wrote:

Dear all,
   Is there any CCP4 module/ other software/ web server
which can determine which particular residues form the surface of a
pocket/ binding-site in a protein?


Do you mean residues not far from any ligand atom?
And you know where is the ligand.

Or do you mean residues surfacing a pocket or cavity?

Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] Overlapping transparent surface representations in Pymol

2012-10-02 Thread Francois Berenger

On 10/03/2012 12:09 AM, Christopher Browning wrote:

Dear All,

I was wondering if anybody knows how one can have two transparent
surfaces overlapping but then being able to see how the 2 intersect
using PYMOL. At the moment, if I have two transparent surfaces
overlapping I don't see how they overlap internally, only externally. I
can see how they overlap internally if one surface is transparent and
the other is solid, but that is not quite what I'm after.


If Pymol Map_set proposed by Dan is not what you want, maybe you should 
try the show as mesh mode of Pymol.


Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: pdf to word conversion

2012-09-02 Thread Francois Berenger

On 09/01/2012 07:48 PM, Rex Palmer wrote:

Dear CCP4BB
Does anyone know how to convert a .pdf file into a meaningful Word file.


Maybe through Google doc you can do something for free (if you are OK
with Google looking into your PDF file).

On Linux, there are the pdftohtml and pdftotext commands that may be
useful too (package poppler-utils under Ubuntu).


Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. The pdf file has numerous
figures and tables.
Rex Palmer
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/biology/our-staff/emeritus-staff
http://rexpalmer2010.homestead.com


Re: [ccp4bb] Does anyone have used DelPhi to calculate the Electrostatic potentials of DNA ?

2012-07-10 Thread Francois Berenger
On 07/11/2012 11:36 AM, dengzq1987 wrote:
 Hi all,
 recently,I want to use 
 DelPhi to calculate the Electrostatic potentials of DNA.but in the 
 manual,i can not find the method to create the inputfile fort.11 
 、fort.12 and fort.13.Does anyone have experience on this?  Please suggest

Why not using pymol and it's apbs plugin (if it handles DNA)?

 Thank you in advance
 
 Sincerely
 dengzq


Re: [ccp4bb] sequence format conversion

2012-05-08 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

The tool is called awk.
There is also another tool called Perl, but I won't recommend it.

Regards,
F.

On 05/08/2012 04:02 PM, K Singh wrote:

Dear All
I was looking for a script or an informatics tool enabling me to
change the sequence from FASTA format to something like following:


FASTA FORMAT

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

to

   1  abcde fghij
11  klmno pqrst
21  uvwxy z


Many thanks in advance

Regards
Kris


Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: Supplying PDB file to reviewers

2012-04-19 Thread Francois Berenger

Hi,

There is the exact same problem when releasing a software,
possibly open source, before the corresponding article is accepted.

And I don't know a correct solution to this problem.

Regards,
F.

On 04/19/2012 05:34 PM, Yu Wai Chen wrote:

Dear Marc,


As a reviewer I find it difficult to “visualise” a structure based on
a static 2D figure.


I echo Joel's comments.  If the (unreleased) coordinates are not
supplied by the authors on request, I would simply refuse to review the
paper on that ground.  I suppose one can trust a reputable journal on
the confidentiality issue.

Wai

--
Yu Wai Chen, PhDLecturer
King's College London, Randall Division +44-207-848-8206
New Hunt's House, Guy's Campus, London SE1 1UL, U.K.




[ccp4bb] a question about protein sequences in the PDB

2012-03-26 Thread Francois Berenger

Dear list,

If I take all the fasta files for proteins in the PDB,
are the sequences complete?

I mean, do they have holes sometimes (missing amino acids)?

Sorry for the maybe stupid question but I know that sometimes
the PDB files have missing residues, I am hoping that
it is not the case with the FASTA files.

Regards,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] a question about protein sequences in the PDB

2012-03-26 Thread Francois Berenger

On 03/27/2012 12:20 PM, Ethan Merritt wrote:

On Monday, 26 March 2012, Francois Berenger wrote:

Dear list,

If I take all the fasta files for proteins in the PDB,
are the sequences complete?

I mean, do they have holes sometimes (missing amino acids)?


In theory the SEQRES records describe the sequence of the
entity that was crystallized, whether or not it is all visible
in the electron density or present in the deposited model.
So normally there should not be any missing internal
residues.  But if the expression construct was a not the full
gene sequence, e.g. an N-terminal truncation, then those
N- or C- terminal residues (or whole domains) will not be
listed.

So goes the theory. There are always corner cases.
I remember having a dispute with the PDB long ago about
whether a peptide chain that was known to have undergone
loop cleavage was properly described with a single
chain identifier or with two chain identifiers.  And if the
cleavage involved excission of one or more residues, would
they appear in the SEQRES records anyhow?



Sorry for the maybe stupid question but I know that sometimes
the PDB files have missing residues, I am hoping that
it is not the case with the FASTA files.


I was assuming that the FASTA files you refer to are just
conversions of the SEQRES records.  If not, then all bets are
off.  If the FASTA files are retrieved by gene ID from Uniprot
or some other sequence data base, then they will be complete in
one sense but may not perfectly match what was in the deposited
crystal structure due to cloning artifacts, strain variation,
allelic non-uniformity, etc.


OK, thanks for the answers.
I'll try to find out more about the FASTA files present in the database 
then.


Regards,
F.


Ethan


Regards,
Francois.





Re: [ccp4bb] Disulfide bonds

2012-03-04 Thread Francois Berenger

I wonder if it's not in the output of pisa from ccp4mg.

On 03/05/2012 12:30 AM, Bart Hazes wrote:

Hi Fred,

The SSBOND server has indeed been moved as we have relocated to a new
building. SSBOND is still available at the new server address:
http://hazeslab.med.ualberta.ca/forms/ssbond.html

This was my first ever program,with help from Bauke Dijkstra, and I was
pleasantly surprised how many messages I got after the server
relocation. SSBOND will soon get some competition for most used service
as I am about to release some bioinformatics services.

Bart

On 12-03-04 02:36 AM, Frederic VELLIEUX wrote:

I'd google for Bart Hazes and SSBOND myself. There is (or was) a
server, and the publication is Prot. Eng. 1988, 119, 25 (PMID
3244694). The server seems to be down or has moved.

HTH, Fred.


Message du 04/03/12 05:07
De : Naveed A Nadvi
A : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Copie à :
Objet : [ccp4bb] Disulfide bonds

Hello everyone,

I was wondering if there is any information available regarding the
range of Ca-to-Ca distances between two cysteine residues forming
disulfide bonds. Is there any software available for analysing the
PDB for this kind of information? Some old textbooks suggest a
distance of 4.4-6.8 A. I would very much appreciate any comments or
suggestions you may have.

Regards,

Naveed

Faculty of Pharmacy,
The University of Sydney



[ccp4bb] shape complementarity

2012-02-07 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

After following the discussion on
[ccp4bb] shape complementarity between protein and DNA surface,
is there someone here able to explain simply what the SC software
of CCP4 is calculating?

I mean, is there some intuitive/easy to understand explanation of what 
SC is calculating?


I know I should read the corresponding paper, but I'd like
someone to enlighten me before so I have better chances of understanding 
the article.


Thanks,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity

2012-02-07 Thread Francois Berenger

On 02/08/2012 12:47 PM, Mike Lawrence wrote:

Hi Francois

Here's a one-liner. The major concept behind the Sc coefficient is that it measures the 
extent to which, on average, the normal vectors between closest-neighbour 
opposing points within the molecular interface are antiparallel.

Sc=1 implies that the surfaces fit exactly, all such vectors are perfectly 
antiparallel. Heuristically, Sc values of 0.86 are about as good as 
protein-protein interfaces get (see Nature. 2005 435, pp773-8). Values below 
0.65 indicate relatively poor shape complementarity.

Use of a normal vector -based metric is considered superior to a distance-based 
metric, though Sc does have a distance-based weight applied to the normal dot 
products. Critical to this calculation is that the boundary of the buried 
molecular interface has to be discarded from the measure, as this region is 
intrinsically geometrically divergent. Sc is thus computed across only that 
part of the buried surface that might be expected to be shape complementarity, 
which makes it somewhat ill-suited to smaller interfaces.

All these details are in the JMB paper, which, unfortunately, there is no 
substitute for reading :-)


Thanks a lot for this very nice answer.

I will definitely read your JMB article.

Best regards,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] off-topic:schematic representations for secondary structure

2012-02-05 Thread Francois Berenger

On 02/04/2012 08:11 PM, Vellieux Frederic wrote:

I believe Procheck generates drawings such as those. It generates
PostScript files, and if you need to have (eg) jpg files, a PostScript
interpreter, screen capture and there you are (Gimp to select only the
areas you're interested in)


The convert command from the ImageMagick package on Linux
can usually deal with any image format conversion.

Regards,
F.


HTH,

Fred.

WENHE ZHONG wrote:

Dear memebers,


Thank you all firsit for the helps on my previous post about sequence
alignment. They are really useful!

Apologize for the off-topic question again. I usually use DSSP method
to calculate the secondary structures on my sovled structures. I saw a
nice schematic representation for secondary structure from PDB
database website (please see the attached figure). Does anyone know
whether there is a program to draw these schematics? Thank you.

King regards,
Wenhe








Re: [ccp4bb] Iphone app to display protein models

2012-01-26 Thread Francois Berenger

On 01/27/2012 04:00 PM, Shiva Bhowmik wrote:

Dear All,

I was wondering if there is any IOS5 based app to display protein
models, which are not in public database, on Iphone.


Better than this: Jolecule from Dr. Bosco Ho.

Jolecule works in HTML5 browsers such as Chrome and Safari, mostly in 
Firefox, and even on the iPad


http://jolecule.appspot.com/

However, if you intend to keep your PDB secret, I'm not sure
it is wise to use any webservice.

Regards,
Francois.


There is an app
called Molecules for displaying models but that utilizes coordinates
from RCSB and pubchem.

Thanks,

Shiva


Re: [ccp4bb] linux upgrade preferences for CCP4

2011-12-21 Thread Francois Berenger

On 12/22/2011 06:56 AM, David Schuller wrote:

Fedora releases are supported for about a year from initial release.

Red Hat Enterprise, Centos and Scientific Linux are all supported for
about 5 years.


Ubuntu has long term support distributions as well:

Starting with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS [...] versions will receive 5 years support

Previous versions were 3 years for desktop and 5 years for server.

cf. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS

Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] Efficient way of showing residue conservation

2011-12-08 Thread Francois Berenger

On 12/08/2011 05:11 PM, Petr Leiman wrote:

Dear Bostjan,

There is Chimera for almost anything you can think of.


Not coot, you are sure?

Because (i) Chimera is not part of CCP4 and (ii) usually
coot does everything on this mailing list. :)

 Search for Structure-Based Sequence Alignment on this page:

http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/features.html

Petr



On Dec 8, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Bostjan Kobe wrote:


Consurf will do this for you.

Bostjan

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On 8/12/11 3:26 PM, Yuri Pompeuyuri.pom...@ufl.edu  wrote:


I once saw a figure showing the protein as surface, but instead of having
it coloured by atom type
or potential, it was shown by percent conservation in the family.
Something like red highly conserved, all the way to white, not conserved
at all...
Now, I assume the figure was done by uploading aligned sequnces of
several members of a family, and the colouring
the generated surface accordingly.
Does anyone know a way to do this more elegantly than what I tried doing?
ps. I quit colouring them manually after I remebered my protein was 407
aa long...


Re: [ccp4bb] phaser openmp

2011-11-09 Thread Francois Berenger

On 11/09/2011 07:21 PM, Pascal wrote:

Le Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:25:22 -0800,
Nat Echolsnathaniel.ech...@gmail.com  a écrit :


On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Francois Berengerberen...@riken.jp
wrote:

In the past I have been quite badly surprised by
the no-acceleration I gained when using OpenMP
with some of my programs... :(


You need big parallel jobs and avoid synchronisations, barriers or this
kind of things. Using data reduction is much more efficient. It's working
very well for structure factors calculations for exemple.



Amdahl's law is cruel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law


You can have much less than 5% of serial code.

I have more problems with L2 misse cache events and memory bandwidth. A
quad cores means 4 times the bandwidth necessary for a single process...
If your code is already a bit greedy, the scale up is not good.


I never went down to this level of optimization.
Are you using valgrind to detect cache miss events?

After gprof, usually I am done with optimization.
I would prefer to change my algorithm and would be afraid
of introducing optimizations that are architecture-dependent
into my software.

Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] Insufficient virtual memory

2011-10-14 Thread Francois Berenger

On 10/14/2011 06:31 PM, Ian Tickle wrote:

Hello all, some Fortran developer out there must know the answer to
this one.  I'm getting a forrtl: severe (41): insufficient virtual
memory error when allocating dynamic memory from a F95 program
compiled with Intel Fortran v11.1.059.  The program was compiled on an
old ia-32 Linux box with 1Gb RAM + 2Gb swap (I only have one Intel
license to compile on this machine), but I'm running it on a brand new
x86-64 box with 12Gb RAM + 8Gb swap.  This should be ample: the
program's maximum total memory requirement (code + static data +
dynamic data) should be no more than 3Gb.

My question is: what do I have to do to make it work?  According to
the ifort man page I need to specify -mcmodel=medium -shared-intel.

It says: If your program has COMMON blocks and local data with a
total size smaller than 2GB -mcmodel=small is sufficient.  COMMONs
larger than 2GB require mcmodel=medium or -mcmodel=large.  Allocation
of memory larger than 2GB can be done with any setting of -mcmodel.

I'm a bit confused about the difference here between COMMONS  2Gb
(which I don't have) and allocation of memory  2Gb (which I assume
I do).

When I try setting -mcmodel=medium (and -shared-intel) I get ifort:
command line warning #10148: option '-mcmodel' not supported.  Is
this telling me that I have to compile on the 64-bit machine?
Whatever happened to cross-compilation?

All suggestions greatly appreciated!


Try the GNU (compiler) and see what it says. ;)


Re: [ccp4bb] change of origin for reflections or map

2011-10-12 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

The more I read this mailing list, the more I feel
the crystallographer is a very special human being:

- he lives in the Fourier space
- when he goes to the Cartesian space, he restricts
  himself to a small box that is replicated to the infinity
  using symmetry operators and origin shifts

That being said, some live in a world made of zero and ones...

Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] software for surface curvature

2011-10-04 Thread Francois Berenger

On 10/05/2011 07:25 AM, Jun Liao wrote:

Dear All,

These days, I want to calculate the surface curvature for my proteins in
a quantitative way and show the results in a graphics software such as
Pymol. Does someone have a good idea of which program will do a nice job?


If you are a C++ expert and have some strong computational geometry 
knowledge:


http://www.cgal.org/Manual/latest/doc_html/cgal_manual/Jet_fitting_3/Chapter_main.html

Maybe by post-processing the output of MSMS (which gives surface 
normals) you can get something working, more easily.


Regards,
F.


Thanks in advance,

Best,

Jun Liao
Dept. of Physiology
UTSW medical center at Dallas



Re: [ccp4bb] Linux vs MacOS for crystallographic software

2011-09-28 Thread Francois Berenger

On 09/29/2011 09:46 AM, William G. Scott wrote:

On Sep 28, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Jacqueline Vitali wrote:


Dear colleagues,

I need some advice for a new computer.

(1) I have the option of an HP Z210  8 GB with a low end Quadro Nvidia 400 512 
MB.

--How does Coot run with this card?


OK


--I am happy with any Linux.  However, the system needs updates for security 
purposes (the University requires it).  Do I have to remake the NVidia driver 
every time there is a kernel update or is there a way around it for this NVidia 
card?  Do you suggest another NVidia card (inexpensive) that is good for coot 
and automatically updates when the kernel is updated?



Try Ubuntu (or Kubuntu or Xubuntu, etc).  You can have Linux and proprietary 
drivers.


By the way, how about some Debian packages for CCP4?

That would make it installable painlessly on both Ubuntu and Debian 
systems for academic users, which would be quite cool.


Regards,
F.


[ccp4bb] renaming an holo PDB after the alo one

2011-09-26 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

I have one bound complexe (a ligand + a protein in holo conformation).
I also have the apo structure for a very similar protein.

Is there a tool to create a new PDB, whose coordinates are
taken from the holo structure but residue names and numbers
are taken from the alo structure (by looking at the corresponding
residues in the output of a sequence alignment program)?

I thought about doing a script using clustalw for the alignment
part, but the task seems not trivial.

Thanks a lot,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] renaming an holo PDB after the alo one

2011-09-26 Thread Francois Berenger

On 09/27/2011 09:55 AM, David Veesler wrote:

Hi François,
Chainsaw should do the job for you if you input a clustal alignment.
Cheers
David


Thanks! I'm happy I asked. I'll give a try at chainsaw.

Hope to not cut one of my fingers during the process...


Le 26 sept. 2011 à 17:44, Francois Berenger a écrit :


Hello,

I have one bound complexe (a ligand + a protein in holo conformation).
I also have the apo structure for a very similar protein.

Is there a tool to create a new PDB, whose coordinates are
taken from the holo structure but residue names and numbers
are taken from the alo structure (by looking at the corresponding
residues in the output of a sequence alignment program)?

I thought about doing a script using clustalw for the alignment
part, but the task seems not trivial.

Thanks a lot,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] more Computer encryption matters

2011-08-18 Thread Francois Berenger

On 08/18/2011 09:34 PM, Andreas Förster wrote:

Since we're on the subject... I've been tempted on and off to encrypt my
hard drive, but after getting burned once a hundred years ago when
encrypted data turned into garbled bytes all of a sudden I've been
hesitant. I've gone so far as to install TrueCrypt (on a MacBook), but I
haven't put it into action. Before I do, the big question:

What software do people on the bb use for encryption? What can be
recommended without hesitation?


For Linux: checking the encrypted disk option of the installer (if I
remember well I did this with a Ubuntu Linux once).

Regards,
F.


Thanks.


Andreas


On 18/08/2011 1:19, Eric Bennett wrote:

John,

Since so many people have said it's flawless, I'd like to point out
this is not always the case. The particular version of the particular
package that we have installs some system libraries that caused a
program I use on a moderately frequent basis to crash every time I
tried to open a file on a network drive. It took me about 9 months to
figure out what the cause was, during which time I had to manually
copy things to the local drive before I could open them in that
particular program. The vendor of the encryption software has a newer
version but our IT department is using an older version. There is
another workaround but it's kind of a hack.

So I'd say problems are very rare, but if you run into strange
behavior, don't rule out encryption as a possible cause.

-Eric





Re: [ccp4bb] Computer encryption matters

2011-08-17 Thread Francois Berenger

On 08/18/2011 04:13 AM, Jrh wrote:

Dear Colleagues,
My institution is introducing concerted measures for improved security via 
encryption of files. A laudable plan in case of loss or theft of a computer 
with official files eg exams or student records type of information stored on 
it.

Files, folders or a whole disk drive can be encrypted. Whilst I can target 
specific files, this could get messy and time consuming to target them and keep 
track of new to-be-encrypted files. It is tempting therefore to agree to 
complete encryption. However, as my laptop is my calculations' workbench, as 
well as office tasks, I am concerned that unexpected runtime errors may occur 
from encryption and there may be difficulties of transferability of data files 
to colleagues and students, and to eg
PDB.


Hello,

Whole disk encryption is wise in case the machine is stolen.

On Linux and Macs (I don't know other platforms) this is transparent
and I don't see how it could trigger some runtime errors (once the 
computer is booted: the files are seen unencrypted by the operating system).


The only concern may be that for some really I/O demanding applications
(like video editing), this may slow down the video processing task.
However, with decent hardware and file system, this may be just an old 
concern which crystallographers really don't need to care about.


Another minor drawback is that you will possibly need a password to boot 
your machine (on Linux at least).


Regards,
F.


Does anyone have experience of encryption? Are my anxieties misplaced? If not, 
will I need to plan to separate office files, which could then all be 
encrypted, from crystallographic data files/calculations, which could be left 
unencrypted. If separate treatment is the best plan does one need two computers 
once more, rather than the one laptop? A different solution would be to try to 
insist on an institutional repository keeping such files.

In anticipation,
Thankyou,
John
Prof John R Helliwell DSc


[ccp4bb] adding side-chains to a backbone model (without introducing clashes in the process)

2011-08-04 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

Recently I was advised PULCHRA on phenixbb for such task
(http://www.pirx.com/pulchra/index.shtml).

I wonder if there is another tool in the CCP4 treasure chest
for the same kind of task (preferably open source).

Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] research paper

2011-07-31 Thread Francois Berenger

On 07/29/2011 06:30 PM, Robbie Joosten wrote:

Jung-Hoon,

This is a so-called WaReZ request, which could get you banned a lot of webfora. 
Of course, we are all guilty of it at some occasions. The best way to get an 
article is to ask the authors, they are allowed give away free copies 
(depending on the journal I guess). Hooray, for authors who pay open access 
fees.


Open Access fees are bad.
Read this and you will understand:
(HTML)
http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2010/2/69353-open-access-to-scientific-publications/fulltext
(PDF)
http://www.lri.fr/~mbl/pdf/cacm-openaccess-feb10.pdf

Regards,
F.


Cheers,
Robbie



Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:23:10 -0400
From: f...@bernstein-plus-sons.com
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] research paper
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

The article is available for purchase for $40. Journals
cannot survive without funding which can come from many
sources - subscriptions, author payment to make the
article open-access, etc. But asking someone to provide
a 'free' copy without Acta's permission is tantamount to
theft.

Frances Bernstein

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Ed Pozharski wrote:


On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 14:35 +, Jung-Hoon Lee wrote:

Acta Cryst D63 (2007), 550-554.


I can't believe Cornell has no access to Acta D.

--
Hurry up before we all come back to our senses!
Julian, King of Lemurs





Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser and Molrep gave different solutions

2011-07-20 Thread Francois Berenger

On 07/21/2011 01:45 PM, Hubing Lou wrote:

Dear all,

I am stuck in a molecular replacement case and looking for advices.
I have been working on a protein-DNA complex structure.
Data was processed by HKL2000 to 2.6Ang and some of the data statistics
are shown below:

Space group: P21,
Unit Cell: 54.73, 104.91, 78.40, 90, 100.2, 90
Redundancy: 2.8 (2.7)
Completeness: 94.8 (93.1)
Linear R-fac: 0.051 (0.442)

Data quality was checked by Phenix.xtriage and there's no problem. I
then prepared a model by Chainsaw. Our protein shares only 30% of
sequence similarity with the model, but structurally they are in the
same group and almost identical in apo form. Matthrews Coeff indaced two
monomers in AU. I then ran Phaser in automated search mode and there's
a solution with RFZ score 4.8, TFZ score 3.8.


Hi,

Isn't this a bad sign usually when the TFZ score is lower than the RFZ 
score?


Regards,
F.

 The electron density map

was not bad with DNA double helix clearly seen. However Refmac5 couldn't
get Rfree lower than 50%.

I then changed to MolRep, ran self rotation function first then used
the first 10 peaks for translation search. Again there's a solution but
it is different from that from Phaser. I attached a picture here.
Checking in coot, the packing is the same. But, the refinement couldn't
get Rfree lower than 50%.

I have tried to include NCS, TLS refinement in Refmac, both not working.
Hope someone out there can help.
Thanks very much for your time.

Hubing



Re: [ccp4bb] Off Topic: How to delete loops from a protein

2011-07-18 Thread Francois Berenger

Hi Obayed,

If I understood your question well,
you are looking for something called secondary structure prediction.

I googled these keywords and found this server:
http://bioinf.cs.ucl.ac.uk/psipred/

You may find other interesting servers on the web and
some literature comparing them.

I think such methods need only the sequence of your
protein to predict its secondary structures.

Hope this helps,
Francois.

On 07/19/2011 02:14 PM, Eric Larson wrote:

Hi Obayed,

you could give in situ protolysis a try. This is where you add a bit of
protease along with you target protein to the crystallization drop. It
has been quite successful for the folks at the SGC. Here are the
relevant references:

Dong A, et al. In situ proteolysis for protein crystallization and
structure determination. Nat Methods. 2007 Dec;4(12):1019-21.PMID:
17982461. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17982461)

Wernimont A, Edwards A. In situ proteolysis to generate crystals for
structure determination: an update. PLoS One. 2009;4(4):e5094. PMID:
19352432. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19352432)

good luck,

Eric


Eric T. Larson, PhD
Biomolecular Structure Center
Department of Biochemistry
Box 357742
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195

email: larso...@u.washington.edu


On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Obayed Ullah wrote:



Hi all

I wrote last time but got only one feedback. I know some of you guys
must have this experience that how to delete loops from the
protein. Please help me with suggestions.

I am working with a human protein which have around 20% sequence
identity with the other proteins of  the same family. Structure
of some of the proteins from this family have been solved. All the
solved structures have around 20% identity with my protein. I
am trying to crystallize  the protein but it looks like very hard to
get crystal. I have tried different N and C terminally
truncated constructs for crystallization but no crystal. My feeling is
that probably there is some flexible loops with in the
protein which limiting the crystallization.

So I want to delete the loops with in the protein (not to truncate in
the terminal, I already have done this). I am not asking
suggestion about how to delete the loop rather how to decide where the
loop is. I am not sure how much it will be helpful to get a
homology model of such a protein having low sequence identity. Is
there any strategy to decide where the loop could be? Does
anybody know any established/ rational method to do that.

Waiting for your suggestions

Obayed Ullah







Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic question. NACCESS

2011-06-17 Thread Francois Berenger

On 06/17/2011 05:25 PM, Armando Albert wrote:

Does anyone has got some information about how to get a mac version (intel), of 
the old unix program naccess?. It was meant  to calculate the solvent 
accessibility per residue from a pdb file.
Armando


Maybe this server can do the job:
http://cgal.inria.fr/abs/Vorlume/

And many other servers will be proposed maybe.

Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] Solvent channel volume measurement [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-06-13 Thread Francois Berenger

On 06/13/2011 04:55 PM, DUFF, Anthony wrote:

It may require some tricks, such as the creation of walls of CA atoms,
but Kleywegt's FLOOD will give an answer in terms of number of water
molecules.


Some more tools are referenced here:
http://hollow.sourceforge.net/

However, I did not tried them.
I don't know how they delimit the limits of channels,
which may be an interesting question.

Regards,
F.


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Dear All,
does anyone know of a program that can measure the volume or
largest dimension of the solvent channels in crystals? Cheers, Matt.

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Re: [ccp4bb] Comparing two proteins

2011-04-14 Thread Francois Berenger

This tool looks cool also (especially to all the maximum likelihood fans
of this list I guess):
http://www.theseus3d.org/

---
Theseus is a program that simultaneously superimposes multiple 
macromolecular structures. Instead of using the conventional 
least-squares criteria, Theseus finds the optimal solution to the 
superposition problem using the method of maximum likelihood.

---

Tim Gruene wrote:

Yes, I forgot about escet. The more up to date wab address is
http://webapps.embl-hamburg.de/escet/
even though that page still lists Thomas' address in Italy

Tim

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:05:47AM +0200, Gergely Katona wrote:

ESCET is also very useful to reveal small, but significant
differences. It also identifies conformationally invariant regions for
superposition.

http://schneider.group.ifom-ieo-campus.it/escet/index.html

Gergely

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:

Hello Rex,

most programs probably use similar algorithms for superpositions, so you can
pick your choice:
- O
- lsqman
- lsqkab
- coot
- ...
are all similarily comfortable to use in my opinion.

Tim

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:18:27PM +0100, REX PALMER wrote:

Dear All
What is the best program to use for comparing two protein structures which are 
very similar both structurally and wrt aa sequence? ie to get the rms 
deviations both generally and in selected regions.

Rex Palmer
Birkbeck College

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[ccp4bb] Getting the triangulated solvent excluded surface of a protein (PDB) as a .obj file

2011-03-10 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

What are the good software to do this?

I already know of Pymol and Jmol.

Both can export the result to a .obj file, which is interesting for
later processing.

However, Pymol's algorithm is not exactly what Connolly described,
cf. 
http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00179.html


Also, Pymol will save the surface with some translation and rotation
which are not present in the PDB read in, which is a real pain.

For Jmol, sometimes the surface is not a closed polyhedra, so
it is kind of useless for my purpose.

I know of MSMS, but I don't think it is that robust (I read some source 
code where someone was using MSMS, the source code had many dirty things 
in order to try handling the apparently many cases where MSMS was crashing).


Is there something freely usable for research, using beta shapes 
internally, for example? That should be a robust approach.


A robust software would be much appreciated (not crashing, whatever
the PDB we give it as input).
Open source and not in Fortran would be heaven. ;)

Thanks a lot for suggestions,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] Getting the triangulated solvent excluded surface of a protein (PDB) as a .obj file

2011-03-10 Thread Francois Berenger

Sorry,

I forgot to mention about what is the .obj file I need.

It is a pure ASCII geometric description of a polyhedra.

Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavefront_.obj_file

It looks rather easy to parse compared to some VRML file, for example.

Thanks,
F.

Francois Berenger wrote:

Hello,

What are the good software to do this?

I already know of Pymol and Jmol.

Both can export the result to a .obj file, which is interesting for
later processing.

However, Pymol's algorithm is not exactly what Connolly described,
cf. 
http://www.mail-archive.com/pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00179.html


Also, Pymol will save the surface with some translation and rotation
which are not present in the PDB read in, which is a real pain.

For Jmol, sometimes the surface is not a closed polyhedra, so
it is kind of useless for my purpose.

I know of MSMS, but I don't think it is that robust (I read some source 
code where someone was using MSMS, the source code had many dirty things 
in order to try handling the apparently many cases where MSMS was 
crashing).


Is there something freely usable for research, using beta shapes 
internally, for example? That should be a robust approach.


A robust software would be much appreciated (not crashing, whatever
the PDB we give it as input).
Open source and not in Fortran would be heaven. ;)

Thanks a lot for suggestions,
F.


[ccp4bb] What is the simplest method to analytically compute the Solvent-Accessible Surface Area of a given atom in a protein?

2011-01-12 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

Does someone know some good articles on this particular topic?

I'd like to implement the thing myself, however if there is
a good software doing the job (with readable source code),
I might use and cite it.

Best regards,
Francois.


[ccp4bb] [Fwd: Re: [ccp4bb] Graphics for notebook]

2010-11-17 Thread Francois Berenger
 ---BeginMessage---

Kay Diederichs wrote:

Eric Karg harvard...@yahoo.com
Datum:
Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:37:10 +

Dear all,

Thanks for your suggestions. From what I learned new GPUs from NVIDIA are using 
the Optimus technology which does not support Linux, meaning that only the 
dedicated graphics on the system will be used in Linux. Does it still make 
sense to go for NVIDIA instead of ATI?


No, the right way is to contact NVIDIA and pressure them to support Linux.
Just sending a mail to customer support saying what you just wrote 
before is enough.


Also, Eric suggest a smart way.
But even if it works, you should bother NVIDIA so that in the future 
things will evolve in the right way.


Many people did this several years ago, so at some point, NVIDIA started
providing quality Linux drivers.

In fact, people should bother NVIDIA so much so it is even possible for 
people outside of NVIDIA to support the Linux driver even when NVIDIA 
will no more be interested into supporting it.


Eric 


Eric,

Optimus is a technology for fast switching between the slow internal
graphics unit and a fast, but power-hungry, NVidia chip. Unfortunately,
it is currently only supported by Windows7. If the notebook's BIOS
offers to permanently disable, or permanently enable, the NVidia
graphics then, from the Linux view, this would be equivalent to a
conventional notebook with slow/fast graphics. If it just defaults to
one of those states then, using Linux, you are at the mercy of the
decision of the BIOS developers.

So I'd say: before you buy investigate what the BIOS offers.

HTH,
Kay



---End Message---


Re: [ccp4bb] [RANT] Publication Data Formats

2010-11-17 Thread Francois Berenger

James Stroud wrote:


On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Ethan Merritt wrote:

Bleah.  Virtually none of those are human-readable, no matter what the
wikipedia page may choose to put as a heading title.

What kind of data are you dealing with?  PDF would indeed be an odd 
format for
diffraction images, but it would be miles better than most of the 
formats on

the list you point to.


The operative word is dataset, which is a subset of all things data.

A dataset should be in a format that

1. can be validated
2. is structured
3. is machine readable


Hello,

They should allow YAML: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML

Then they will keep all the above and win an extra:
  4. human readable

Which makes it way better than the ugly and verbose XML.

Regards,
F.

A pdf file *guarantees* none of the above. It is a presentation format 
and is not optimized for validating, structuring, or ensuring the 
machine readability of the data that it might contain.


I'm not advocating for any particular serialization format. So this 
isn't about JSON v. XML religion wars. This is JSON or XML versus a file 
format that is basically designed to ferry presentation information 
between printers or computer screens.


James



Re: [ccp4bb] SC

2010-11-11 Thread Francois Berenger

Hi,

This is the first time I read about shape complementarity statistics.

According to:
A structural basis for the activity of retro-Diels–Alder catalytic 
antibodies: Evidence for a catalytic aromatic residue


As seen here:
http://www.pnas.org/content/99/15/9674.full

---
[...] compute the SHAPE COMPLEMENTARITY STATISTICS index (Sc). This 
statistics index measures the geometric surface complementarity via the 
use of normal products, and the extent to which the interacting surface 
elements are brought into proximity via an exponential distance 
separation term. Sc values usually range from 0.70 to 0.76 for 
proteinase–protein inhibitor surfaces, from 0.64 to 0.68 for 
antigen–antibody complexes, and from 0.45 to 0.70 for MHC–peptide 
complexes (30).

---

I am frightened. :(
I don't think this is in my book The cartoon guide
to statistics. Despite the book is really nice.

Regards,
F.

intekhab alam wrote:
I want to calculate the shape comlementarity statitics (SC) of a dimeric 
protein using CCp4. I am using CCP4 6.1.3 on windows but the SC program 
is not available in that suite.
Which version of CCP4 has that program. Are there any other programs 
that can calculate that.
 
Thanks


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LABORATORY OF STRUCTURAL BIOINFORMATICS
KOREA UNIVERSITY, SEOUL


Re: [ccp4bb] what package provides libg2c.so.0 on Ubuntu ?

2010-10-19 Thread Francois Berenger

Edward A. Berry wrote:

I'm helping set up crystallography programs on a ubuntu system, and we're
stuck because one program (scalepack) needs the library libg2c.so.0 .


Maybe compat-libf2c

I understand this is absent from modern distributions because gcc 
discontinued

support for g77 and f2c in recent releases. However on fedora there are
compatibility packages like compat-libf2c which allow running old 
executables

compiled with g77. Is something like this available for ubuntu? Or is there
some other trick to get scalepack running?
I understand ubuntu is used by many crystallographers, and while I'm sure
most of them use mosflm or XDS, I'm sure someone has tried setting up 
denzo/scalepack.


the system:
Linux x 2.6.31-22-generic #65-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 16 15:48:58 UTC 
2010 i686 GNU/Linux

gcc (Ubuntu 4.4.1-4ubuntu9) 4.4.1

Thanks,
eab


[ccp4bb] Seeking Postdoctoral Researcher

2010-09-29 Thread Francois Berenger

Laboratory: Zhang Initiative Research Unit,
Advanced Science Institute, RIKEN, Japan.
(Unit Leader: Dr. Kam Zhang)

Job title and Job description: Postdoctoral Researchers

Job description:

We are seeking a highly motivated and experienced computational 
structural biologist to join the Zhang Initiative Research Unit at 
RIKEN. The successful candidate will use computational tools to tackle 
problems in the area of protein folding, structure prediction, and 
structure-based drug design. Our ability to predict the structure of 
proteins from their primary sequences will greatly facilitate our 
understanding of the important biological functions that proteins play 
in their host systems. The 3D structure information will also facilitate 
the rationale design of drugs for the treatment of various diseases with 
unmet medical needs.


Qualifications:

This position requires a PhD in areas related to biophysics, 
biochemistry, computational chemistry, bioinformatics, or structural 
biology with experience in employing computational tools to solve 
biological or chemical problems. Experiences in protein folding, protein 
structure prediction, protein structure analysis, protein 
crystallography, or structure-based drugs are highly desired. 
Proficiency in object-oriented programming such as C++, Java, scripting 
languages such as Python, Perl are also desired. Experiences in high 
performance computing, network computing, or grid computing would be a 
plus. The ideal candidate should possess a track record of 
accomplishments demonstrating technical proficiency, independent 
thinking, and scientific creativity. The research environment will be 
international and hence communication in English is encouraged.


The complete job ad, as well as how to apply can be viewed here:

http://www.riken.jp/engn/r-world/info/recruit/k100817_s_asi.html

Best regards,
Francois.


[ccp4bb] How to get a seq.data file from a FASTA file?

2010-09-14 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

First, sorry for this not directly CCP4-related question.

I have some software here that requires a seq.data file as one
of its inputs: any idea on how to create such a file from a FASTA file?

Here is how the expected file looks like for protein 101M (it is named 
seq.dat):

---
1   MET19
2   VAL19
3   LEU18
4   SER18
5   GLU29
6   GLY29
7   GLU29
8   TRP29
9   GLN29
   10   LEU29
[...]
  147   TYR29
  148   LYS28
  149   GLU26
  150   LEU12
  151   GLY17
  152   TYR18
  153   GLN19
  154   GLY19
---

Thanks a lot,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] How to get a seq.data file from a FASTA file?

2010-09-14 Thread Francois Berenger

Reply to myself:

The author changed his program so that only the
2 first columns are needed now, and they are obvious enough.

Regards,
F.

Francois Berenger wrote:

Hello,

First, sorry for this not directly CCP4-related question.

I have some software here that requires a seq.data file as one
of its inputs: any idea on how to create such a file from a FASTA file?

Here is how the expected file looks like for protein 101M (it is named 
seq.dat):

---
1   MET19
2   VAL19
3   LEU18
4   SER18
5   GLU29
6   GLY29
7   GLU29
8   TRP29
9   GLN29
   10   LEU29
[...]
  147   TYR29
  148   LYS28
  149   GLU26
  150   LEU12
  151   GLY17
  152   TYR18
  153   GLN19
  154   GLY19
---

Thanks a lot,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] Format conversion of Shelx coordinate file

2010-08-31 Thread Francois Berenger

Hi,

What is the motto/slogan of coot?
I read so often about it on ccp4bb.

If there is not one yet, I propose:
coot, the crystallographer's swiss knife
:'D

Regards,
F.

Tim Gruene wrote:

Hello Florian,

you can read the .hat-file into coot and save it from there, changing the
suggested file-extenstion from .ins to .pdb.

In case coot crashes when it reads the .res-file, edit the file and make sure
there is only one END-card.

Maybe shelxpro would also work.

Tim

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 05:36:37PM -0400, Florian Schmitzberger wrote:

Dear All,

What is currently the quickest/easiest way to convert a .hat file with  
fractional coordinates of heavy atoms generated by ShelxE to PDB format 
and/or a file format accepted by Sharp?


I tried to use coordconv from ccp4, but it failed to make the  
conversion.


Thank you.

Regards,

Florian

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Re: [ccp4bb] ROSETTA for MR model generation

2010-08-25 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

I know at least the following papers on this topic:
---
High resolution protein structure prediction and the crystallographic 
phase problem

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2504711/

Prospects for de novo phasing with de novo protein models
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2631639/
---

I think it worked on several of their cases, better on
small proteins if I remember well.

Regards,
F.

Kornelius Zeth wrote:

Dear all,

I was wondering if anybody has used the ROSETTA software to generate a MR model that could subsequently being used successfully for a MR solution case. 


The sequence of the protein we work with is relatively small, ~ 85 residues. 
Crystallization is not very reproducible. Resolution is 1.9 A. Crystals are 
extremely rare.

I would be grateful for any hints and will send a summary of all personally 
sent comments to the list.

Thank you and have a nice day

Kornelius

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Re: [ccp4bb] Method to calculate the axis of an alpha helix

2010-08-17 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

Is there some C or C++ code out there doing what you described in 1).

If not, is there a very detailed explanation of this procedure 
somewhere, detailed enough in order to implement it (just getting

the best fit vector and its length, no other parameters)?

Thanks a lot,
Francois.

Tom Oldfield wrote:

Yuan SHANG

1) DIY
The way that has been used is to calculate the inertia tensor matrix for 
helix (or
any other secondary structure element).  You can chose backbone atoms or 
just
the CA atoms.  Then calculate the eigen vectors and values from this and 
the largest
eigen vector will be the best fit vector to the helix - and its lambda 
will define its

length.  For a strand or sheet you can use this method too.
This was the standard way from molecular simulation work to look at
simplified dynamics of proteins.

2) The program Squid
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~oldfield/squid/  (1992, 1998)
has lots of different analysis methods for proteins including calculating
vectors for helices, the angles between helices (torsion/distance/opening)
and other things.
You only problem is that it is very old (1988) and written in Fortran 
and requires
a little effort to install - sorry - I no longer  support it.  There is 
a pre

compiled  linux-32 bit
version and I still do all my structure analysis with it.
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~oldfield/xsquid -   though this requires installation
data too.


Tom


Fitting a helix is not trivial.

If you have access to windows and mathematica, then you might try 
helfit. (Otherwise, you could implement the algorithm yourself and 
then share your code with the rest of us ;-)



http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.compbiolchem.2008.03.012


James


On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:29 AM, 商元 wrote:


Dear all,
   I want to compare the conformational change of two similar 
structures, using one alpha helix as the reference. Then, how can I 
get a vector that can represent both the position and direction of 
the helix? Is there any well-known software can do this?
   Or, should I build a cylinder model, with parameters 
[radius,bottom center(x1,y1,z1),top center(x1,y2,z2)], using the 
coordinates of C,C(alpha) and N to fit these parameters?

Thanks for any suggestions

Regards,
Yuan SHANG


Re: [ccp4bb] Estimation of coordinate errors

2010-08-03 Thread Francois Berenger
By the way,

I used this one recently:

http://zhang.bioinformatics.ku.edu/TM-score/

It computes a lot of scores: TM-score, MaxSub-score, GDT-TS-score and
GDT-HA-score.
All of this with a single Fortran file (so nothing more needed except
a Fortran compiler), I was impressed.

Regards,
F.

Pavel Afonine wrote:
   Hi Joe,
 
 do you want to calculate rms deviations between two sets of coordinates 
 that are originating from two PDB files?
 
 If my guess is correct, then you can get this number using the command 
 below:
 
 phenix.superpose_pdbs file1.pdb file2.pdb
 
 which will superpose two sets of coordinates and print RMS deviations 
 before and after superposition, like this:
 
 RMSD between fixed and moving atoms (start): 0.575
 RMSD between fixed and moving atoms (final): 0.563
 
 Is this is what you want?
 
 Good luck!
 Pavel.
 
 
 On 8/2/10 9:59 PM, Joe Yap wrote:
 Dear CCP4 users,
  
 I have two sets of coordinates that are of similar structure and I 
 would like to know is there a program I can use to calculate the 
 coordinate errors between these two sets of coordinates?
  
 I would appreciate it if you can help me with this.
  
 Thank you so much.
  
 Best regards,
  
 Joe Yap
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Matthews coefficient

2010-06-25 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

I am not a crystallographer, so I will ask
a maybe stupid question.

When you say After molecular replacement you should check the result
with the model building program of your choice and correct as many
errors as possible before running a refinement program.

Can this step be automated in some way (without any
human intervention)?

Are there programs to do this?
I am interested even if some program does only one part of the job.

Thanks a lot,
Francois.

Tim Gruene wrote:

Dear Xinghua,

the solvent content provided by yhe Matthews-program is certainly correct.
Whether or not it applies to you protein is a different issue. With only 2
molecules in the asymmetric unit the solvent content rises to 65%, and this is
stll perfectly fine for proteins. So carry out molecular replacement with only
two molecules and start model building and refinement. 


Your previous message sounds as though to started refinement directly after
molecular replacement. I would strongly discourage you from this practice (which
somehow seems to be stuck in the heads of many people). After molecular
replacement you should check the result with the model building program of your
choice and correct as many errors as possible before running a refinement
program.

Tim

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 01:54:05PM +0800, xinghua qin wrote:

Hi everyone:
 Thanks for all the responses.
 The Matthaws-cell content analysis programe in CCP4 package gives the
results: 47% solvent content and 3 molecules in asu with  87% confidence.
the space group is P3121. how to carry out self rotation function? can
phaser do that work? If there areTwo moleculars in asu ,no clashes and the
TF values are above 10.but if three, the clashes are too much and TF valur
is about five.
And how to calculate the solvent content? Is the  calculated solvent content
with the Matthews-cell content analysis programe not always right?
Best regards

 Xinghua Qin
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Vineet Gaur vineetgaur1...@gmail.comwrote:


Hi
It would b good if u can mention the solvent content and space group along
with the no. of molecules in asu/

u can carry out self rotation function to check the no of mol in asu
best
vineet
  On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:42 AM, xinghua qin xtal...@gmail.com wrote:


hi CCPeers
  The Matthews coefficient  of my protein is 3 calculated with
matthews-cell content analysis CCP4 programe with  87% confidence , but when
doing the refinement the third molecular couldn't get into the unit cell
because of  too many clashes.Deletion of the clashed AA did not work well,
Then I used two molecules in the unit cell, After refining with Refmac, I
found that the R factor is 0.29, R free is 0.40.I believe the value can be
better with the real space refinement.But the question is that can the
calculated Matthews coefficient be wrong?

Best regards

Xinghua Qin

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Re: [ccp4bb] Matthews coefficient

2010-06-25 Thread Francois Berenger

Vellieux Frederic wrote:

Hi,

No such thing as a stupid question. If the resolution is sufficient, 
arp_warp does a good job. But it is a reconstruction and REFINEMENT 
program. But checking the proper packing (that there are indeed contacts 
in the 3 dimensions of space to form the crystal): takes only 10 seconds 
using a graphics program, so there is no need to automate that.


Well, if my colleague sends you his 300,000 computer-generated models
to use in MR, I am sure you will like to automate the job. ;)

 And
trying to do everything completely automatically (without any human 
intervention and checks) can lead to big problems (for example if the 
space group has been wrongly assigned). You may end up publishing a 
wrong structure if you rely entirely on totally automated 
crystallographic software without checking anything.


Sure, an expert is always useful to check things at some moment.

And, I also agree that things made only in the computer have
to be checked using some experimental data in order to be relied on.

Francois.


Fred.

Francois Berenger wrote:

Hello,

I am not a crystallographer, so I will ask
a maybe stupid question.

When you say After molecular replacement you should check the result
with the model building program of your choice and correct as many
errors as possible before running a refinement program.

Can this step be automated in some way (without any
human intervention)?

Are there programs to do this?
I am interested even if some program does only one part of the job.

Thanks a lot,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] error in running Phaser NMA mode

2010-06-24 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

I used this script once just to have a look
at some NMA-moved structures:

---
#!/bin/bash

if [ $# -ne 1 ] ; then
#0 1
echo usage: phaser_nma.sh INPUT.PDB
exit 1
fi

name=`echo $1 | sed s/\.pdb$//g`

phaser  EOF
TITLE moved by some low frequency normal modes
MODE NMA
ENSEMBLE 1 PDB $1 IDENTITY 100
EIGEN WRITE ON
ROOT $name
NMAPDB MODE 7 MODE 8 RMS 0.5 FORWARD MAXRMS 3
EOF
---

It produced some PDBs (I did not tried MR
on them after, I was just curious about the NMA
induced moves).

Regards,
F.

Yong Y Wang wrote:
I am getting an error in running Phaser in NMA mode based on the usage in 
the Phaser document.

pre
BFONT COLOR=#FF
html!-- CCP4 HTML LOGFILE --
!--SUMMARY_BEGIN--

#
#
#
### CCP4 PROGRAM SUITE: Phaser  2.1.4 ###
#
User: rx36953
Run time: Thu Jun 24 14:01:32 2010
Version:  2.1.4
OS type:  linux
Release Date: Thu Nov 13 10:53:32 2008

If you use this software please cite:
Phaser Crystallographic Software
A.J. McCoy, R.W. Grosse-Kunstleve, P.D. Adams, M.D. Winn, L.C. Storoni  
R.J. Read

J. Appl. Cryst. (2007). 40, 658-674

!--SUMMARY_END--
!--END--/FONT/B
!--SUMMARY_BEGIN--

*
*** Phaser Module: PREPROCESSOR  2.1.4 ***
*


!--SUMMARY_END--
ENTER KEYWORD INPUT FROM FILE OR FROM STANDARD INPUT
!--SUMMARY_BEGIN--
TITLe beta normal mode analysis pdb file generation
MODE NMA
ENSEmble test PDB protein_A_CRYST.pdb IDENtity 100
ROOT test_nma_pdb # not the default
EIGEn test_nma.mat
NMAPdb MODE 7 MODE 10 RMS 0.5 FORWARD
!--SUMMARY_END--

EXIT STATUS: SUCCESS


CPU Time: 0 days 0 hrs 0 mins 0.00 secs (0.00 secs)
Finished: Thu Jun 24 14:01:32 2010

/pre
/html
pre
BFONT COLOR=#FF
html!-- CCP4 HTML LOGFILE --

#
#
#
### CCP4 PROGRAM SUITE: Phaser  2.1.4 ###
#
User: rx36953
Run time: Thu Jun 24 14:01:32 2010
Version:  2.1.4
OS type:  linux
Release Date: Thu Nov 13 10:53:32 2008

If you use this software please cite:
Phaser Crystallographic Software
A.J. McCoy, R.W. Grosse-Kunstleve, P.D. Adams, M.D. Winn, L.C. Storoni  
R.J. Read

J. Appl. Cryst. (2007). 40, 658-674

!--END--/FONT/B

!--SUMMARY_BEGIN--
*
*** Phaser Module: NORMAL MODE ANALYSIS  2.1.4 ***
*

TITLe beta normal mode analysis pdb file generation
ENSEmble test PDB protein_A_CRYST.pdb IDENtity 100
ROOT test_nma_pdb # not the default
EIGEn test_nma.mat

BFONT COLOR=#FF8800

SYNTAX ERROR: Use READ or WRITE

/FONT/B

!--SUMMARY_END--

EXIT STATUS: FAILURE


CPU Time: 0 days 0 hrs 0 mins 0.00 secs (0.00 secs)
Finished: Thu Jun 24 14:01:32 2010

/pre
/html

Anyone knows how to use the NMA mode?  Is the document not up-to-date?

Thanks,

Yong


Re: [ccp4bb] different compilers for ccp4 code

2010-05-17 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

This is not what you asked for, but I think
it is good to know: Intel compilers don't seem
to like non-Intel CPUs:

http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49

Regards,
F.

Terry Lang wrote:

Hey Everyone,

  I am considering switching from gcc to the Intel compiler in the 
hopes of making some of calculations run a bit faster.  Has anyone ever 
tried compiling the ccp4 code base with the Intel compilers?  Is there a 
difference in speed?  What about in the reproducibility of the 
calculations?  Any changes in statistics?  Any information would be 
greatly appreciated!


Thanks,
Terry



Re: [ccp4bb] a simple query: atom selection for CNS

2010-04-29 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

Just for your information, there is a mailing list for CNS:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cnsbb/

And there is some activity on it.

Regards,
F.

AMIT wrote:

Just type in CNS refine.inp in the atom select option:

{===} atom_select=(not((chainid A and resid 10:15 ) or (chainid B and
resid 12:17 )));


On 4/28/10, Amit Kumar amitkumar.ii...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

Apologies for non-ccp4 and very simple query.

How one will select and write into CNS input file

For example:
I would like to select following residues for omission to calculate SA-omit
map:
residue 10 to 15 of chain A and 12 to 17 of chain B

Thank you very much.

amit k






[ccp4bb] question about rotation search

2010-04-05 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

While doing a rotation search with Patterson maps,
what is the standard way to find the minimum* and maximum**
radius to be used while correlating maps?

*  to avoid the origin peak
** to avoid inter molecular-vectors

Is there a CCP4 tool to give me this if I provide it with
a model?

If you know a good paper describing a smart way to find these
2 limits automatically, I would be happy to know about it.

Thank you,
Francois.


[ccp4bb] orthogonal limits of a protein

2010-03-24 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

Is there a ccp4 tool to find automatically the smallest virtual
orthogonal box that contain a given PDB ?

Even if your favorite tool is not part of ccp4, I would be happy
to know about it. ;)

Thanks,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] Why Do Phases Dominate?

2010-03-18 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

I was recently advised to have a look at James Holton's videos
to have an idea of the effects of various parameters.

http://ucxray.berkeley.edu/~jamesh/movies/

There is a video The importance of Phase:
http://ucxray.berkeley.edu/~jamesh/movies/dephase.mpeg

This is not an explanation, but a very nice illustration
I think.

This page has examples in image processing:
http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/rbf/HIPR2/fourier.htm

The Guidelines for Use section shows an image,
and what you get if you do an inverse FFT while
ignoring the phases.

Regards,
Francois.

Jacob Keller wrote:

Dear Crystallographers,

I have seen many demonstrations of the primacy of phase information for 
determining the outcome of fourier syntheses, but have not been able to 
understand intuitively why this is so. Amplitudes as numbers presumably 
carry at least as much information as phases, or perhaps even more, as 
phases are limited to 360deg, whereas amplitudes can be anything. Does 
anybody have a good way to understand this?


One possible answer is it is the nature of the Fourier Synthesis to 
emphasize phases. (Which is a pretty unsatisfying answer). But, could 
there be an alternative summation which emphasizes amplitudes? If so, 
that might be handy in our field, where we measure amplitudes...


Regards,

Jacob Keller

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[ccp4bb] Any simple way to scale 2 MTZ?

2010-03-12 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

Is there a magic tool doing the job of scaling 2 MTZ to the same scale?

For the moment I know with ccp4:
rwcontents then wilson then mtzutils

with phenix:
lsq_scale (in fact I am lying, I was forced to run ccp4's cad before)

Is there a simpler way with ccp4?
As I am not a crystallographer, I am afraid I can do many
different stupid errors when I have to use many tools for just
one task.

Regards,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] Any simple way to scale 2 MTZ?

2010-03-12 Thread Francois Berenger

Graeme Winter wrote:

Hi Francois,

SCALEIT in CCP4 sounds like the tool you want - this is for scaling
e.g. native and derivitive data sets together. You will need to cad
together the two files first though.


My crystallographer colleague tells me that if we use
scaleit there is a risk if there are multiple copies in the ASU.

So, we should scale both data sets to absolute scale.


This is illustrated in the tutorials here:

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/examples/tutorial/html/heavy-tutorial-mad.html#step_4a

Best wishes,

Graeme

On 12 March 2010 08:17, Francois Berenger beren...@riken.jp wrote:

Hello,

Is there a magic tool doing the job of scaling 2 MTZ to the same scale?

For the moment I know with ccp4:
rwcontents then wilson then mtzutils

with phenix:
lsq_scale (in fact I am lying, I was forced to run ccp4's cad before)

Is there a simpler way with ccp4?
As I am not a crystallographer, I am afraid I can do many
different stupid errors when I have to use many tools for just
one task.

Regards,
Francois.



Re: [ccp4bb] linux question

2010-02-28 Thread Francois Berenger

On 2/27/2010 10:10 PM, David Roberts wrote:

I have a quick question about linux for all.  Is there anybody running a windows pc with 
linux on a bootable cd or bootable drive/flash drive/??? that works for crystallography 
apps?  I have a colleague who does molecular dynamics calculations and he needs some 
conversion programs that are unix based (not pc based - they just haven't been ported and 
that's not my area).  We have linux computers that he can use, but I thought in the end 
it might be easiest if he could just boot up a linux flash drive to run his conversion, 
then go back to his pc and windows.  Something like damn small linux or ??


Alternatively, he can install some xterm emulator for windows (like 
putty) then use it to connect to the real linux machines you already

have.


Any thoughts on this?  Thanks

Dave


Re: [ccp4bb] status of the UCLA DOE anisoscale server?

2010-02-24 Thread Francois Berenger

James Stroud wrote:

This seems to be a temporary condition.

The page is back up now.


Alternatively, if you put the address in Google
(http://www.doe-mbi.ucla.edu/~sawaya/anisoscale/), then
you click on the Cached link of the first result, then
you will access the page as Google remembers it.

In many cases, even if the website is really down you
can still access some of its content.

Although I'm not part of the IT staff here, I have observed that the 
UCLA-DOE website is well maintained by several individuals who care 
deeply and any outages are seldom and short lived. Always check back 
soon after you notice a problem. Problems with the web infrastructure 
here are usually fixed minutes after they are discovered or reported.


James


On Feb 23, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Elizabeth McSweeney wrote:


Hello everyone,

I am writing to ask if anyone knows what the status us for Dr. 
Eisenberg's anisotropy server at the DOE?  (  
http://www.doe-mbi.ucla.edu/~sawaya/anisoscale/  )I have been 
using this server extensively for weeks, and was surprised to see a 
page not found messege this morning.  Apparently, the website is 
getting a makeover.  Does anyone know if UCLA has moved the server 
somewhere else?  If it will be up and functioning again soon?  Any 
information would be awesome, and I'm sure I am not the only person 
out there who is affected.


Thanks so much!
Beth McSweeney


Re: [ccp4bb] Strange problem running cpp4i over nx - job reported as failed even though it succeeds-log file has nx errors

2010-02-04 Thread Francois Berenger

Ethan Merritt wrote:

On Thursday 04 February 2010 05:14:24 hari jayaram wrote:

  [...]

The program run with command: /mega/ccp4-6.1.3/ccp4-6.1.3/bin/sortmtz
HKLOUT /mega/hj-8-2-1/hjbr5-1/hjbr5-1_sorted_mosflm.mtz
has failed with error message
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/NX/lib/libesddsp.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD
cannot be preloaded: ignored.


My guess is that your machine configuration includes a file that
initializes LD_PRELOAD for NX on login.  But it should not do this.

The LD_PRELOAD setting applies to all programs, so it should not
be set blindly to include program-specific libraries.


Unfortunately, some ccp4 configuration files also change PYTHONPATH.
And exactly the same could be said: The PYTHONPATH setting applies to 
all programs, so it should not be set blindly...


My personal workaround is to start a new shell, then only in this
one source the ccp4 configuration files.
But this is just a workaround, I hope it can be solved in future 
releases of ccp4 (ccp4 could creates a CCP4_PYTHONPATH and use this one

instead of using the system-wide one).

Regards,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] reforigin on 2FKA

2010-01-27 Thread Francois Berenger

Ian Tickle wrote:

Francois, the possible non-equivalent alternate origins for F432 are:

1   0.  0.  0.
2   0.2500  0.2500  0.2500
3   0.5000  0.5000  0.5000
4   0.7500  0.7500  0.7500


It correspond to what is found at the end of James Holton's
origins.com script
http://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/pickup/origins.com
so I guess it should be correct.

He also says how he found them:
origins.com snippet
# TABLE OF ALLOWED ORIGIN SHIFTS
These origin shifts were determined emprirically using 100 
randomly-placed atoms

that were shifted around with pdbset and checked with SFALL for identical
amplitudes to the 0 0 0 origin.  They should be correct for the CCP4 
convention

of symmetry. (I.E. R3 and R32 have hexagonal indexing)
/origins.com snippet


plus of course the symmetry-equivalent origins generated from these 4 by
the space-group centring (F) translations:

0.  0.5000  0.5000
0.5000  0.  0.5000
0.5000  0.5000  0.


I can see these in syminfo.lib.

However, from what you say, I understand that only 2x3 possible
origins with each coordinate being 0 or .5 should be accepted by reforigin.
But in my test it accepted all 8 possible combinations of 0 and .5
that I artificially introduced in my translated test PDBs:

m...@myps:2fka# grep Frac run.log | sort | uniq
Fractional origin shift: 0.   0.   0.
Fractional origin shift: 0.   0.   0.5000
Fractional origin shift: 0.   0.5000   0.
Fractional origin shift: 0.   0.5000   0.5000
Fractional origin shift: 0.5000   0.   0.
Fractional origin shift: 0.5000   0.   0.5000
Fractional origin shift: 0.5000   0.5000   0.
Fractional origin shift: 0.5000   0.5000   0.5000

Should I be worried?

Thanks,
Francois.


So there will be 12 in all, which I think include the ones you
mentioned.

If you're going by
http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/html/alternate_origins.html then you should
be aware of a very recent BB discussion in which it was pointed out that
the entries for F222, F23, F432 and possibly others are incomplete.

Eleanor has given me the task of checking  correcting this particular
documentation, until then don't trust it!

Of course you shouldn't trust reforigin either, just as you shouldn't
trust any program until you have verified that the results are sensible,
but I think in this particular the fault doesn't lie with reforigin.

Cheers

-- Ian


-Original Message-
From: owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk]

On

Behalf Of Francois Berenger
Sent: 27 January 2010 06:50
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: reforigin on 2FKA

Hello,

I am playing with ccp4's reforigin to verify some MR solutions.

If I translate a copy of the pdb.org's PDB 2FKA (from spacegroup F432)
by +/-0.5 fractional in any unit cell direction, then reforigin will
find back this translation and consider it as valid for this

spacegroup.

But for this spacegroup I should find only (0,0,0) or (1/2,1/2,1/2)
as possible alternate origins.

Does this mean that I can't trust reforigin and that I must filter
out its results to retain only the valid ones?

Thanks,
Francois.




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[ccp4bb] reforigin on 2FKA

2010-01-26 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

I am playing with ccp4's reforigin to verify some MR solutions.

If I translate a copy of the pdb.org's PDB 2FKA (from spacegroup F432) 
by +/-0.5 fractional in any unit cell direction, then reforigin will 
find back this translation and consider it as valid for this spacegroup.


But for this spacegroup I should find only (0,0,0) or (1/2,1/2,1/2)
as possible alternate origins.

Does this mean that I can't trust reforigin and that I must filter
out its results to retain only the valid ones?

Thanks,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] verifying a molecular replacement solution (test case where the true structure is known)

2010-01-21 Thread Francois Berenger

James Holton wrote:

Looks like you have already gotten several good suggestions,


Many good ones indeed, I tried both csymmatch and origins.com
for the moment.

This mailing list and all its people is extremely helpful.

Thank you very much,
Francois.

 but I also
wrote a jiffy program for doing this that does not require the two PDB 
files to have the same atom names:


http://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/pickup/origins.com

Which you run like this:
origins.com right_origin.pdb wrong_origin.pdb P212121 correlate nochains

The bottom of the script file contains a list of allowed origin shifts, 
which are each applied in turn and the resulting symmetry-expanded atom 
constellations compared.  If you use the word correlate on the command 
line the atoms will be converted to an electron density map using sfall 
and the correlation coefficient used as the match score.  By default, 
the program breaks up the PDBs into their chains (segids) and searches 
each one separately.  You can turn this off by using the word nochains 
on the command line.


I think emma should give you similar results, but the algorithms are 
certainly different.


-James Holton
MAD Scientist

Francois Berenger wrote:

Hello,

1) In the case I know the true structure (I am verifying I use Phaser
   correctly), is there a program to do so?

Some other questions, if I am to write this program by myself:

2) is there a list somewhere of the translation ambiguities for
   each spacegroup?
   For example, in P1 it would say me any translation on any axis
   is fine.

3) is there a list of permissible origins for each space group?
   For example, in P212121 it would say me there are 8 possible choices
   and list them for me.

I already know of symop.lib, but I don't think it has some of the 
information I am looking for.
I also know the csymmatch example program of the clipper library, it 
does part of what I intend to do.


Thanks a lot,
Francois.


[ccp4bb] verifying a molecular replacement solution (test case where the true structure is known)

2010-01-17 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

1) In the case I know the true structure (I am verifying I use Phaser
   correctly), is there a program to do so?

Some other questions, if I am to write this program by myself:

2) is there a list somewhere of the translation ambiguities for
   each spacegroup?
   For example, in P1 it would say me any translation on any axis
   is fine.

3) is there a list of permissible origins for each space group?
   For example, in P212121 it would say me there are 8 possible choices
   and list them for me.

I already know of symop.lib, but I don't think it has some of the 
information I am looking for.
I also know the csymmatch example program of the clipper library, it 
does part of what I intend to do.


Thanks a lot,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] verifying a molecular replacement solution (test case where the true structure is known)

2010-01-17 Thread Francois Berenger

Francois Berenger wrote:

Hello,

1) In the case I know the true structure (I am verifying I use Phaser
   correctly), is there a program to do so?

Some other questions, if I am to write this program by myself:

2) is there a list somewhere of the translation ambiguities for
   each spacegroup?
   For example, in P1 it would say me any translation on any axis
   is fine.

3) is there a list of permissible origins for each space group?
   For example, in P212121 it would say me there are 8 possible choices
   and list them for me.

I already know of symop.lib, but I don't think it has some of the 
information I am looking for.
I also know the csymmatch example program of the clipper library, it 
does part of what I intend to do.


I was advised in a private e-mail to look at phenix.emma:

http://www.phenix-online.org/documentation/emma.htm

I think it is more powerful than csymmatch, I'll try to use it then.


Thanks a lot,
Francois.


Re: [ccp4bb] Zalman LCD availability

2010-01-14 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

By the way, does anyone got this LCD in Japan?

My team is interested to know the model's exact
reference as well as from where you ordered it.

Thanks a lot,
Francois.


[ccp4bb] Phaser: removing H in PDB increases the RFZ ?!

2010-01-12 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

I have 4 molecules.
If I use Phaser's AUTO_MR with all default parameters on them,
I get the following scores:

 no_modif remove_H
molecule RFZ TFZ  RFZ TFZ
16.9 9.6  7.0 9.4
25.2 5.9  5.4 6.2
34.2 4.5  4.7 5.2
44.9 6.8  5.2 6.7

Hence, here are my existential questions, given that I heard
many times H is transparent for X-rays:
* should I always remove H before running Phaser?
* why?

Here are a few lines of one of my PDBs containing H, in case it is
misinterpreted by Phaser:
---
ATOM  6 1H   ALA A   1  18.629  -3.443  12.782  1.00  0.00 

ATOM  7 2H   ALA A   1  18.427  -2.484  13.918  1.00  0.00 

ATOM  8 3H   ALA A   1  17.496  -2.462  12.742  1.00  0.00 

ATOM  9  HA  ALA A   1  19.811  -0.866  13.013  1.00  0.00 

ATOM 10 1HB  ALA A   1  21.071  -1.469  10.982  1.00  0.00 

ATOM 11 2HB  ALA A   1  21.038  -2.809  12.152  1.00  0.00 

ATOM 12 3HB  ALA A   1  19.983  -2.852  10.720  1.00  0.00 


---

Thanks a lot,
Francois.


[ccp4bb] open source project announce: parallel/distributed execution of commands

2010-01-06 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

In order to process things in parallel I developed a simple
tool to run (for the moment) parameter sweep applications.
I.e. you want to run many times the same program with only
different input parameters.

It can be used to parallelize execution on a multi processor
machine or even to distribute jobs if you have access to a cluster
or at least a few workstations (need to have Python Pyro installed
on them then).

You can download the project from here:
http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/par/

Here is the help message:
---
u...@pc:~# parallel.py
-i or -c is mandatory
Usage: parallel.py [options] -i | -c ...
Execute commands in parallel.

  [-h | --help]   you are currently reading it
  -c  | --client servername   read commands from a server
  instead of a file
  use -c or -i, not both
  -i  | --input commands_file /dev/stdin for example
  [-o | --output output_file] log to a file instead of stdout
  [-p | --post python_module] specify a post processing module
  (omit the '.py' extension)
  [-s | --server] accept remote workers
  [-v | --verbose]enables progress bar
  [-w | --workers n]  number of local worker threads
  must have n = 0
  n == 0 can be useful to only run
 the server
---

I hope it can be useful to other people.

Regards,
Francois Berenger.


[ccp4bb] combining AutoMR and brute

2009-12-21 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

Is there any way to search in AutoMR mode but have the
translation only being brute forced?

Regards,
F.


Re: [ccp4bb] combining AutoMR and brute [Phaser]

2009-12-21 Thread Francois Berenger

Sorry, I forgot to mention my previous message concerns using Phaser.

Francois Berenger wrote:

Hello,

Is there any way to search in AutoMR mode but have the
translation only being brute forced?

Regards,
F.


[ccp4bb] regarding coot and loading an MTZ file

2009-12-17 Thread Francois Berenger

Hello,

When I run coot in order to read the experimental MTZ corresponding
to the PDB I am viewing, I got the following messages (attached is long 
lines original log):


---
command: (refmac-for-phases-and-make-map 
/home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz 
/DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/FP /DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/SIGFP)
(refmac-for-phases-and-make-map 
/home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz 
/DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/FP /DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/SIGFP)

(molecule-name0)
(calc-phases-generic 
/home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz)

INFO:: Creating directory coot-refmac
(write-pdb-file0 coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.pdb)
got args: pdb-in-filename: coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.pdb, 
pdb-out-filename: coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases-tmp.pdb, 
mtz-in-filename: 
/home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz, 
mtz-out-filename: coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.mtz, 
imol-refmac-count: 0, show-diff-map-flag: 1, phase-combine-flag: 0, 
phib-fom-pair: (), force-n-cycles: 0, f-col: /DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/FP, 
sig-f-col: /DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/SIGFP, r-free-col: ()

Not Passing LIBIN to refmac LIBIN
DEBUG:: refmac-extra-params returns ()
INFO:: Running refmac with these command line args: (XYZIN 
coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.pdb XYZOUT 
coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases-tmp.pdb HKLIN 
/home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz HKLOUT 
coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.mtz)
INFO:: Running refmac with these data lines: (MAKE HYDROGENS NO  
NCYCLES 0WEIGHT AUTO LABIN FP=FP SIGFP=SIGFP)

environment variable:  SYMOP: #f
environment variable: ATOMSF: #f
environment variable:  CLIBD: #f
environment variable:   CLIB: #f
---

I am afraid coot is refining my molecule instead of just displaying the 
map. Am I right?


Thanks a lot,
Francois.
command: (refmac-for-phases-and-make-map 
/home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz 
/DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/FP /DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/SIGFP)
(refmac-for-phases-and-make-map 
/home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz 
/DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/FP /DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/SIGFP)
(molecule-name0)
(calc-phases-generic /home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz)
INFO:: Creating directory coot-refmac
(write-pdb-file0 coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.pdb)
got args: pdb-in-filename: coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.pdb, 
pdb-out-filename: coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases-tmp.pdb, mtz-in-filename: 
/home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz, mtz-out-filename: 
coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.mtz, imol-refmac-count: 0, show-diff-map-flag: 
1, phase-combine-flag: 0, phib-fom-pair: (), force-n-cycles: 0, f-col: 
/DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/FP, sig-f-col: /DERIV_AU/DERIV_AU/SIGFP, r-free-col: ()
Not Passing LIBIN to refmac LIBIN
DEBUG:: refmac-extra-params returns ()
INFO:: Running refmac with these command line args: (XYZIN 
coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.pdb XYZOUT 
coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases-tmp.pdb HKLIN 
/home/berenger/usr/xp_1m6t_14122009/1m6t/1m6t-sf-exp.mtz HKLOUT 
coot-refmac/refmac-for-phases.mtz)
INFO:: Running refmac with these data lines: (MAKE HYDROGENS NO  NCYCLES 
0WEIGHT AUTO LABIN FP=FP SIGFP=SIGFP)
environment variable:  SYMOP: #f
environment variable: ATOMSF: #f
environment variable:  CLIBD: #f
environment variable:   CLIB: #f


Re: [ccp4bb] regarding coot and loading an MTZ file

2009-12-17 Thread Francois Berenger

Paul Emsley wrote:

Francois Berenger wrote:

When I run coot in order to read the experimental MTZ corresponding
to the PDB I am viewing, [snip]


I am afraid coot is refining my molecule instead of just displaying 
the map.   


Well, Refmac is - at Coot's request.

This usually happens because Coot doesn't detect phases in your MTZ file 
(i.e. you are using a phasing input file, rather than an output file).  
Or it could be a bug.


Hello Paul,

Yes, my MTZ doesn't have phase, it is not supposed to.

But, as Bernhard C. Lohkamp just pointed out 3 minutes before on this 
same mailing list: does the fact that NCYCLES 0 is present means that 
refmac would just compute a map and not do any refinement of my PDB?


From the refmac documentation, and not being a crystallographer (sorry 
for this fact), it is completely not clear for me.


Thanks a lot,
Francois.


[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral Position in Computational Structural Biology at RIKEN, Japan

2009-12-17 Thread Francois Berenger

Dear ccp4 users,

Postdoctoral Fellow Position in Computational Structural Biology at the 
Zhang Initiative Research Unit, Advanced Science Institute, RIKEN, Japan


We are seeking a highly motivated and experienced computational 
structural biologist to join the Zhang Initiative Research Unit at 
RIKEN. The successful candidate will use computational tools to tackle 
problems in the area of protein folding, structure prediction, 
crystallographic phasing or drug design.


Qualifications: This position requires a PhD in biophysics, 
biochemistry, chemistry, bioinformatics or structural biology with 
experience in employing computational tools to solve biological or 
chemical problems. Experience in protein folding, protein structure 
prediction, protein structure analysis, protein crystallography or 
structure-based drug design are highly desired. Proficiency in 
object-oriented programming and scripting languages are also required. 
Experience in high performance computing, network computing or grid 
computing would be a plus. The ideal candidate should possess a track 
record of accomplishments demonstrating technical proficiency, 
independent thinking, and scientific creativity. The research 
environment in the unit is international and English will be used for 
communication and knowledge of Japanese is not required.


Salary and benefits: This is a full-time position with an annual 
renewable contract. Salary will be commensurate with qualification and 
experience. Commuting and housing allowance will be provided.


Application and required documents:
Complete CV (including list of publications) and names and contact 
information of three references.


Contact information:
Ms. Hiroko Kani
Zhang Initiative Research Unit
Advanced Science Institute
RIKEN
2-1 Hirosawa, Wako, Saitama 351-0198, Japan
E-mail: zhang-unit [at] riken.jp