Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-10-04 Thread John Berrisford
mobile phone… John From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Zhijie Li Sent: 10 September 2018 20:42 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures. Hi Kevin, a) If your goal is merely

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-10 Thread Zhijie Li
UK> *Betreff:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures. Hi Marin I was about to comment on that too but then I realised that Pavel is referring to the map _contours_  (which is what most people using a map visualisation program like Coot actua

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-10 Thread Kevin Jin
ontour level as you like. >> >> >> >> Of course, if the authors did not deposit their EM-map, you cannot >> download it, but the same is true for X-ray structure factors. >> >> >> >> Happy viewing! >> >> >> >> Herm

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-10 Thread Garib Murshudov
the authors did not deposit their EM-map, you cannot download > it, but the same is true for X-ray structure factors. > > > > Happy viewing! > > > > Herman > > > > > > > > Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > <mailto:

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-10 Thread Kevin Jin
structure factors. > > > > Happy viewing! > > > > Herman > > > > > > > > *Von:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *Im Auftrag von > *Ian Tickle > *Gesendet:* Montag, 10. September 2018 12:58 > *An:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Betref

Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-10 Thread Natesh Ramanathan
Dear Kevin, Are you referring to "generating a map" from the model (PDB coordinates) generated from tracing the chain in the ab-initio EM map? Best wishes, Natesh On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 09:58, Kevin Jin wrote: > Dear All, > > Is there any sever available to create electron density

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-10 Thread Herman . Schreuder
download it, but the same is true for X-ray structure factors. Happy viewing! Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Ian Tickle Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2018 12:58 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-10 Thread Hughes, Jon
] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures. Hi Marin I was about to comment on that too but then I realised that Pavel is referring to the map _contours_ (which is what most people using a map visualisation program like Coot actually see). So the contoured map does represent an iso

Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-09 Thread Kevin Jin
Great, thanks! On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:49 PM Pavel Afonine wrote: > P.S.: all questions are welcome of course, no labeling. It's just some of > them are so orthogonal to common sense that answers my be such as well. > Best, > Pavel > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:38 PM Pavel Afonine wrote: > >>

Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-09 Thread Pavel Afonine
P.S.: all questions are welcome of course, no labeling. It's just some of them are so orthogonal to common sense that answers my be such as well. Best, Pavel On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:38 PM Pavel Afonine wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any sever available to create electron density maps for cryo-em >>

Re: [ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-09 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi, Is there any sever available to create electron density maps for cryo-em > structures? > The questions are nonsensical. Here is why: 1) In cryo-EM maps are not electron density maps but surfaces representing electric potential. 2) Creating such a map is essentially carrying on from cryo-EM

[ccp4bb] Electron density maps for Cryo-EM structures.

2018-09-09 Thread Kevin Jin
Dear All, Is there any sever available to create electron density maps for cryo-em structures? Or, we should create the maps from mmCIF. I am particularly interested in those cryo-em structures with high resolution, like 2.6~2.8A. Please give me an education. Thanks, Kevin

Re: [ccp4bb] Electron Density Maps

2009-08-10 Thread Folmer Fredslund
Dear Pascal, 2009/8/10 Pascal Egea pas...@msg.ucsf.edu: Dear All, I am currently carrying the refinement of a structure and comparing the results obtained in Refmac, Phenix and CNS. While Phenix and Refmac write maps and their corresponding coefficients in mtz format allowing display of

Re: [ccp4bb] Electron Density Maps

2009-08-10 Thread Kevin Cowtan
If you want to display CNS maps in Coot and have them on the right scale, then you need to do one of two things. Either: 1. Don't use the map file, use the reflection file containing the map coefficients, or 2. Change the setting in CNS which controls the extent of the output map. Instead

Re: [ccp4bb] electron density maps in Coot vs O / Pymol

2007-02-14 Thread William Scott
I use this to get the same maps: http://xanana.ucsc.edu/Library/init/zsh/local-functions/xtal/mapcover http://xanana.ucsc.edu/Library/init/zsh/local-functions/xtal/mapcoverdiff I used zsh but I think it should work with current versions of bash. mac minista wrote: Dear all, I have noticed

Re: [ccp4bb] electron density maps in Coot vs O / Pymol

2007-02-14 Thread Paul Emsley
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 07:59 -0800, mac minista wrote: Dear all, I have noticed that going from refmac 5 (script) to generate fo-fc and 2fo-fc maps in O / Pymol once and Coot in the other, the outcome is not exactly the same electron density maps-I mean some differences are seen. I have

Re: [ccp4bb] electron density maps in Coot vs O / Pymol

2007-02-14 Thread Peter Adrian Meyer
Hi Mac, I have noticed that going from refmac 5 (script) to generate fo-fc and 2fo-fc maps in O / Pymol once and Coot in the other, the outcome is not exactly the same electron density maps-I mean some differences are seen. I have used the following columns in Coot (latest version): FOFCWT,

Re: [ccp4bb] electron density maps in Coot vs O / Pymol

2007-02-14 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
I am guessing it is a difference in normalization, but I would love to hear a definitive answer from someone. Steve -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of mac minista Sent: Wed 2/14/2007 10:59 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] electron density maps

Re: [ccp4bb] electron density maps in Coot vs O / Pymol

2007-02-14 Thread mac minista
Hi, thank you for your suggestions, the difference I am seeing in the maps is mainly with the Fo-Fc maps i.e. what appears in coot does not always appear in O/Pymol. Here are the scripts for FFT and MAPMASK: FFT #!/bin/sh set -e fft hklin model.mtz mapout fofc_f.map eof title fofc map