Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-20 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Thank you for your comments everyone. The CCP4BB is a wonderful resource and it has answered several questions that have been bothering me for years! Tristran has given us the correct conclusion as well as the important facts: the capacity of oil for holding O2 is high, but the diffusion rate is

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Do you have evidence that the oil blocks diffusion of O2? O2 is a nonpolar molecule, generally much more soluble in oils than in water. I'm not sure about silicone oils, but I would think they also dissolve O2 readily. eab On 03/18/2015 08:02 AM, Patrick Shaw Stewart wrote: Hi Steve I have

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-18 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Hi Steve I have one more comment for this thread. The microbatch-under-oil method is very handy for anaerobic work: 1. You can keep the microbatch stock solutions in normal microtitre plates (polypropylene is best to reduce evaporation) for months, which hugely reduces the amount of degassing

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-18 Thread Julia Griese
Hi, As far as I can tell oil does not block diffusion of O2 whatsoever. You can keep larger volumes (≥1 ml) of solutions anoxic in air for several hours with dithionite (≥0.5%) to scavenge oxygen and a redox indicator dye such as phenosafranin to monitor the state of the solution. Small

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-18 Thread Ronald E Stenkamp
I also wondered about the statement about oils blocking diffusion of O2. We had lots of trouble keeping things anaerobic in a glove box until we degassed the oils and waxes used to mount crystals in capillaries. We found that putting them under vacuum removed much of the dissolved oxygen.

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-18 Thread Tristan Croll
It's a little complicated. It's true that oxygen is more soluble in most oils than in water - but in a high viscosity mineral oil the diffusion rate is orders of magnitude lower. So the combination of an oil overlay and a reducing agent in your buffer should protect your sample much longer than

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Actually I may have misunderstood the original post. Patrick never said oils block O2 diffusion: On 03/18/2015 09:47 AM, Edward A. Berry wrote: The microbatch-under-oil method is very handy for anaerobic work: (In a glove box, of course) 1. You can keep the microbatch

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-11 Thread Guenter Fritz
Hi Stephen, we crystallized several proteins in a glove box placed in a room with air condition. We checked the temperature all the times and found that is had been quite stable. For one protein that crystallized only at 4 deg C, we setup the crystallization plate within the glove box and

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-11 Thread Stephen Carr
2015 10:17 To: ccp4bb Subject: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box Dear CCP4BBer's Apologies for the off-topic post, but the CCP4BB seems to be the best place to ask about crystallisation. I am looking to set up crystallisation in an anaerobic glove box and wondered how

[ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-11 Thread Stephen Carr
Dear CCP4BBer's Apologies for the off-topic post, but the CCP4BB seems to be the best place to ask about crystallisation. I am looking to set up crystallisation in an anaerobic glove box and wondered how other people did this, specifically the crystallisation stage. My initial thoughts were

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-11 Thread Conn Mallett
Dear Steve, There is a model of small incubator that fits through the large portal of a Belle Technology rigid glovebox - as an aside, that’s a good box for crystallisation and crystal manipulation since you can get the microscope-mounted side box with a dewar port for rapid and pretty

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-11 Thread Martin Montgomery
Dear Steve, You should not require an incubator if you have good, stable air con. We routinely grow crystals in plates stored at room temperature in wall mounted cabinets in our crystallisation lab. Another of the groups here have experience of growing crystals in an anaerobic box.