Re: [ccp4bb] disulfide bridge in red density

2011-03-07 Thread sadaf iqbal
Hello everyone,

Thank you very much for giving me such a valuable information. I will try one 
by 
one each suggestion and then ask again if i feel more problem. 



thanks  regards
 
Sadaf Iqbal
PhD Scholar
ICCBS, University of Karachi, Pakistan.
 Visiting Scientist
University of Hamburg, Germany.






From: Sanishvili, Ruslan rsanishv...@anl.gov
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2011 1:22:14
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] disulfide bridge in red density

Hi Sadaf,

Most likely you are dealing with radiation damage. If that's the case, you 
would 
need to refine occupancies as Mario has already suggested. However, you may not 
find a double conformation. Instead, you may find that some of your sulfurs are 
gone.
There is a ton of publications on this topic, take a loo.

If you have high enough redundancy, you may be able to use only the part of the 
data, collected at the beginning. This would have suffered less from radiation.
You can also use zero dose extrapolations - look up Diederichs' and Borek's 
publications.
Good luck!
Nukri

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of sadaf iqbal
Sent: Sun 3/6/2011 12:57 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] disulfide bridge in red density

Hello everyone,

Recently, i have solved a protein structure at 1.3 Å resolution. I have 
encountered one problem in this structure while refining in COOT. There are 
three disulfide bridges in my structure and if i used 2.0 Å resolution range in 
refmac then the density around disulfide bridges is ok but if i used 1.3 Å 
resolution range in refmac then red density is appeared along with blue one. 
Can 

anybody help me in this regard? I already played by increasing temperature 
factor of sulfur atoms but red density is still there.

Thanks in advance

Sadaf Iqbal
PhD Scholar
ICCBS, University of Karachi, Pakistan.
 Visiting Scientist
University of Hamburg, Germany.




Re: [ccp4bb] disulfide bridge in red density

2011-03-07 Thread Steiner, Roberto
Hi Sadaf

It is also possible that the features you observe are also due to anisotropy of 
the ADPs. At 1.3A resolution you can perform anisotropic refinement. Give it a 
go and se if it helps.

Best
Roberto

On 6 Mar 2011, at 18:57, sadaf iqbal wrote:

Hello everyone,

Recently, i have solved a protein structure at 1.3 Å resolution. I have 
encountered one problem in this structure while refining in COOT. There are 
three disulfide bridges in my structure and if i used 2.0 Å resolution range in 
refmac then the density around disulfide bridges is ok but if i used 1.3 Å 
resolution range in refmac then red density is appeared along with blue one. 
Can anybody help me in this regard? I already played by increasing temperature 
factor of sulfur atoms but red density is still there.

Thanks in advance

Sadaf Iqbal
PhD Scholar
ICCBS, University of Karachi, Pakistan.
 Visiting Scientist
University of Hamburg, Germany.






Re: [ccp4bb] disulfide bridge in red density

2011-03-06 Thread Mario Sanches
Hi Sadaf,

You may want to try to play with the occupancy. I have had a case before
where the disulfide bond had double occupancy. In my case it was obvious
because I could see the other density, but sometimes you can just see a
major one due to disorder.

I hope that helps,

Mario Sanches

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:57 PM, sadaf iqbal sadaf_che...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 Recently, i have solved a protein structure at 1.3 Å resolution. I have
 encountered one problem in this structure while refining in COOT. There are
 three disulfide bridges in my structure and if i used 2.0 Å resolution
 range in refmac then the density around disulfide bridges is ok but if i
 used 1.3 Å resolution range in refmac then red density is appeared along
 with blue one. Can anybody help me in this regard? I already played by
 increasing temperature factor of sulfur atoms but red density is still
 there.

 Thanks in advance

 Sadaf Iqbal
 PhD Scholar
 ICCBS, University of Karachi, Pakistan.
  Visiting Scientist
 University of Hamburg, Germany.





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Re: [ccp4bb] disulfide bridge in red density

2011-03-06 Thread Sanishvili, Ruslan
Hi Sadaf,

Most likely you are dealing with radiation damage. If that's the case, you 
would need to refine occupancies as Mario has already suggested. However, you 
may not find a double conformation. Instead, you may find that some of your 
sulfurs are gone.
There is a ton of publications on this topic, take a loo.

If you have high enough redundancy, you may be able to use only the part of the 
data, collected at the beginning. This would have suffered less from radiation.
You can also use zero dose extrapolations - look up Diederichs' and Borek's 
publications.
Good luck!
Nukri

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of sadaf iqbal
Sent: Sun 3/6/2011 12:57 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] disulfide bridge in red density
 
Hello everyone,

Recently, i have solved a protein structure at 1.3 Å resolution. I have 
encountered one problem in this structure while refining in COOT. There are 
three disulfide bridges in my structure and if i used 2.0 Å resolution range in 
refmac then the density around disulfide bridges is ok but if i used 1.3 Å 
resolution range in refmac then red density is appeared along with blue one. 
Can 
anybody help me in this regard? I already played by increasing temperature 
factor of sulfur atoms but red density is still there.

Thanks in advance

 Sadaf Iqbal
PhD Scholar
ICCBS, University of Karachi, Pakistan.
 Visiting Scientist
University of Hamburg, Germany.