Re: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues

2012-03-22 Thread Boaz Shaanan



HI,

You could use the LINK command after going through Jligand for your modified residues. There is a very nice tutorial here:

http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/mxstat/JLigand/

in case you haven't done this before. 

 Boaz




Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.

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Ben-Gurion University of the Negev 
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:54 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues




Hi Joel, thanks for the reply. It's not phospho group but the whole residue get disconnected. In coot if I do refinement they get disconnected.


Thanks

Rajesh
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On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Joel Tyndall joel.tynd...@otago.ac.nz wrote:






Hi Rajesh,

If I understand correctly, the phospho groups become disconnected from either the serine or threonine. If this is the case, you can use the SEP monomer for phosphoserine and TPO monomer for phosphothreonine. (replace
 the amino acid residues with these)

These are built into ccp4 and coot

Hope this helps

Joel


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Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:00 p.m.
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Subject: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues





Dear All,





I have a structure of a protein and peptide complex, in which peptide has modified residues ( phosphoserine and phosphothreonine).


During refinement these both gets disconnected withadjacentresidues and its hard to connect them.


Could you please suggest me some options.





Thanks


Rajesh












Re: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues

2012-03-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson

Have you checked the dictionary cif calls them L-peptide?

Eleanor

The header should look like this..

# data_comp_list loop_ _chem_comp.id _chem_comp.three_letter_code 
_chem_comp.name _chem_comp.group _chem_comp.number_atoms_all 
_chem_comp.number_atoms_nh _chem_comp.desc_level ALA ALA 'ALANINE ' 
L-peptide 10 5 . # On Mar 21 2012, Rajesh kumar wrote:




Dear All, I have a structure of a protein and peptide complex, in which 
peptide has modified residues ( phosphoserine and phosphothreonine). 
During refinement these both gets disconnected with adjacent residues and 
its hard to connect them.Could you please suggest me some options. 
ThanksRajesh


--
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YSNL, Dept of Chemistry
University of York
Heslington YO10 5YW
tel: 00 44 1904 328259
Fax: 00 44 1904 328266


Re: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues

2012-03-22 Thread Garib N Murshudov
In new version (it should be in ccp4 6.2.0, if not then it will come ccp4 6.3, 
otherwise you can take it from York's web site: ) TPO as well as SEP are 
peptides.

Break in coot may be due to misinterpretation of SEP or TPO as peptide in coot 
and it may be because of older version of the dictionary. Do the distances, 
angles between neighbouring residues make sence? If not then refinement also 
had problems


regards
Garib


On 22 Mar 2012, at 00:39, Joel Tyndall wrote:

 As a follow up question the bulletin board, why is SEP a peptide (L-peptide) 
 and TPO not (non-polymer)?
  
 Joel
  
 _
 Joel Tyndall, PhD
 
 Senior Lecturer in Medicinal Chemistry
 National School of Pharmacy
 University of Otago
 PO Box 56 Dunedin 9054
 New Zealand  
 Skype: jtyndall
 http://www.researcherid.com/rid/C-2803-2008
 Pukeka Matua
 Te Kura Taiwhanga Putaiao
 Te Whare Wananga o Otago
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 Aotearoa
 
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 Fax / Waeawhakaahua +64 3 4797034
  
 From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Rajesh 
 kumar
 Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:00 p.m.
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues
  
 Dear All,
  
 I have a structure of a protein and peptide complex, in which peptide has 
 modified residues ( phosphoserine and phosphothreonine). 
 During refinement these both gets disconnected  with adjacent residues and 
 its hard to connect them.
 Could you please suggest me some options.
  
 Thanks
 Rajesh

Garib N Murshudov 
Structural Studies Division
MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
Hills Road 
Cambridge 
CB2 0QH UK
Email: ga...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk 
Web http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk





Re: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues

2012-03-22 Thread Rajesh kumar

Dear All,
Thanks for the suggestions. I will work on them.I had not worked on the 
modified residues, so thanks for all the valuable suggestions.
RegardsRajesh

Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:15:55 +
From: ga...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK



In new version (it should be in ccp4 6.2.0, if not then it will come ccp4 6.3, 
otherwise you can take it from York's web site: ) TPO as well as SEP are 
peptides.
Break in coot may be due to misinterpretation of SEP or TPO as peptide in coot 
and it may be because of older version of the dictionary. Do the distances, 
angles between neighbouring residues make sence? If not then refinement also 
had problems

regardsGarib

On 22 Mar 2012, at 00:39, Joel Tyndall wrote:As a follow up question the 
bulletin board, why is SEP a peptide (L-peptide) and TPO not (non-polymer)? 
Joel _Joel Tyndall, PhD

Senior Lecturer in Medicinal Chemistry
National School of Pharmacy
University of Otago
PO Box 56 Dunedin 9054
New Zealand  Skype: jtyndall
http://www.researcherid.com/rid/C-2803-2008Pukeka Matua
Te Kura Taiwhanga Putaiao
Te Whare Wananga o Otago
Pouaka Poutapeta 56 Otepoti 9054
Aotearoa

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[mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Rajesh kumar
Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:00 p.m.
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues Dear All, I have a structure 
of a protein and peptide complex, in which peptide has modified residues ( 
phosphoserine and phosphothreonine). During refinement these both gets 
disconnected  with adjacent residues and its hard to connect them.Could you 
please suggest me some options. ThanksRajesh

Garib N Murshudov 
Structural Studies DivisionMRC Laboratory of Molecular BiologyHills Road 
Cambridge CB2 0QH UK
Email: ga...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk 
Web http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk



  

[ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues

2012-03-21 Thread Rajesh kumar

Dear All,
I have a structure of a protein and peptide complex, in which peptide has 
modified residues ( phosphoserine and phosphothreonine). During refinement 
these both gets disconnected  with adjacent residues and its hard to connect 
them.Could you please suggest me some options.
ThanksRajesh  

Re: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues

2012-03-21 Thread Joel Tyndall
As a follow up question the bulletin board, why is SEP a peptide (L-peptide) 
and TPO not (non-polymer)?

Joel

_
Joel Tyndall, PhD

Senior Lecturer in Medicinal Chemistry
National School of Pharmacy
University of Otago
PO Box 56 Dunedin 9054
New Zealand
Skype: jtyndall
http://www.researcherid.com/rid/C-2803-2008
Pukeka Matua
Te Kura Taiwhanga Putaiao
Te Whare Wananga o Otago
Pouaka Poutapeta 56 Otepoti 9054
Aotearoa

Ph / Waea   +64 3 4797293
Fax / Waeawhakaahua +64 3 4797034

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Rajesh 
kumar
Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:00 p.m.
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues

Dear All,

I have a structure of a protein and peptide complex, in which peptide has 
modified residues ( phosphoserine and phosphothreonine).
During refinement these both gets disconnected  with adjacent residues and its 
hard to connect them.
Could you please suggest me some options.

Thanks
Rajesh


Re: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues

2012-03-21 Thread Rajesh kumar
Hi Joel, thanks for the reply. It's not phospho group but the whole residue get 
disconnected. In coot if I do refinement they get disconnected. 

Thanks
Rajesh
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Joel Tyndall joel.tynd...@otago.ac.nz wrote:

 Hi Rajesh,
  
 If I understand correctly, the phospho groups become disconnected from either 
 the serine or threonine. If this is the case, you can use the SEP monomer for 
 phosphoserine and TPO monomer for phosphothreonine. (replace the amino acid 
 residues with these)
  
 These are built into ccp4 and coot
  
 Hope this helps
  
 Joel
  
 _
 Joel Tyndall, PhD
 
 Senior Lecturer in Medicinal Chemistry
 National School of Pharmacy
 University of Otago
 PO Box 56 Dunedin 9054
 New Zealand  
 Skype: jtyndall
 http://www.researcherid.com/rid/C-2803-2008
 Pukeka Matua
 Te Kura Taiwhanga Putaiao
 Te Whare Wananga o Otago
 Pouaka Poutapeta 56 Otepoti 9054
 Aotearoa
 
 Ph / Waea   +64 3 4797293
 Fax / Waeawhakaahua +64 3 4797034
  
 From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Rajesh 
 kumar
 Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:00 p.m.
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: [ccp4bb] refining phosphorylated residues
  
 Dear All,
  
 I have a structure of a protein and peptide complex, in which peptide has 
 modified residues ( phosphoserine and phosphothreonine). 
 During refinement these both gets disconnected  with adjacent residues and 
 its hard to connect them.
 Could you please suggest me some options.
  
 Thanks
 Rajesh