[ccp4bb] two multmeric species in solution

2010-01-20 Thread Claudine MAYER
Hi all, We have recently solved a structure that is a crystallographic dimer. We have performed UCA experiments and we observe a monomer/dimer distribution in nearly equal proportion. This distribution does not change with protein concentration, meaning that the two species are not in

Re: [ccp4bb] two multmeric species in solution

2010-01-20 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Hi - Could the dimer in solution be mediated by an intra-molecular Cys bridge? A. PS I would think that you are maybe a bit too deterministic in your conclusion ... would it not be better to say that 'the equilibrium between monomer-dimer does not change in the range of conditions we

Re: [ccp4bb] two multmeric species in solution

2010-01-20 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Hi Claudine, You could also look into the possibility that domain swapping occurred in half of your proteins. See e.g. Bennett MJ, Schlunegger MP, Eisenberg D. (1995). 3D domain swapping: a mechanism for oligomer assembly. Protein Sci 4 (12): 2455-68. PMID 8580836 Best regards, Herman

[ccp4bb] ligand with alternate conformation?

2010-01-20 Thread Kelly Daughtry
Hello all, I am refining a structure (using REFMAC currently, but have tried with phenix as well) with a ligand with alternate conformations. I have added each conformation to the pdb file with 0.5 occupancy and named as A and B and have been able to refine that. The problem is only two atoms are

Re: [ccp4bb] ligand with alternate conformation?

2010-01-20 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Kelly, The way I proceed in these cases is to make a real alternative conformation with the same chain ID and residue number. Example: HETATM 1260 N1 AEPE L 1 0.875 15.892 20.141 0.50 7.15 N HETATM 1261 N1 BEPE L 1 0.885 15.884 20.143 0.50 43.64 N HETATM 1262 C2

[ccp4bb] DMMULTI question

2010-01-20 Thread Joe Cockburn
Dear BB, We are trying to solve the structure of a complex between two proteins. We have two crystal forms of the complex, and a partial MR solution in each. We now want to average the density between these two forms to improve the maps, using DMMULTI. However, there are a couple of things I don't

[ccp4bb] Projection of map?

2010-01-20 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Dear CCP4ers, I want to calculate projections of an electron density map covering a molecule along arbitrary directions. Please note: I don't want to calculate the usual centric zone projections by using (h0l) zones and alike, but really work on the map. Which program can I use for that?

[ccp4bb] Resolution limits in refmac

2010-01-20 Thread Christian Strube
Hi ccp4bb, I have a big problem concerning refmac_5.5.0088. I refined a couple of structures. Now after refining I realized that refmac sets wrong resolution limits for my data. Scaling was done with scala. I cut the data at 1.8 A. Then I used molrep; respectively difference fourier. Later

Re: [ccp4bb] Projection of map?

2010-01-20 Thread Leiman Petr
Dear CCP4ers, I want to calculate projections of an electron density map covering a molecule along arbitrary directions. Please note: I don't want to calculate the usual centric zone projections by using (h0l) zones and alike, but really work on the map. Which program can I use for that?

[ccp4bb] UV microscope for screening

2010-01-20 Thread Scott Walsh
Dear CCP4BB members, I am shopping around for a UV microscope for the lab and would like to get some feedback about peoples' experiences using UV microscopes for screening crystals. Best, Scott * Scott T. R. Walsh, Ph.D. Assistant

Re: [ccp4bb] problem with Coot:findwaters in ccp4i

2010-01-20 Thread Paula Salgado
Hi Tim If I type findwaters, it finds the command without any problems. Also, Coot directory is in the same path as in the previous version - that worked fine. I can't see a clear reason for it not to work from within ccp4i or Refmac... Any help is appreciated... Paula 2010/1/20 Tim Gruene

Re: [ccp4bb] DMMULTI question

2010-01-20 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Joe Cockburn wrote: Dear BB, We are trying to solve the structure of a complex between two proteins. We have two crystal forms of the complex, and a partial MR solution in each. We now want to average the density between these two forms to improve the maps, using DMMULTI. However, there are a

Re: [ccp4bb] UV microscope for screening

2010-01-20 Thread Pascal Egea
Dear Scott, We had a UV inspection microscope from KORIMA to look at crystals by UV fluorescence. It works relatively well but it is expensive ( way too much in my opinion), you pay for the microscope, the UV source and the software (named Wasabi) that comes with it An alternative to that is

Re: [ccp4bb] naming convention for the guanidine group of Arginine

2010-01-20 Thread Dale Tronrud
You are right, NH1 and NH2 are distinct in a way that CD1 and CD2 in Phenylalanine are not, since the torsion angle that exchanges them is not freely rotatable (except perhaps in a highly acidic solution). The practical difference is that the convention for defining labels in Phe and the

[ccp4bb] refmac resolution limit vs twin refine

2010-01-20 Thread Christian Strube
Hi, I just found out, that this effect just occurs when I push the twin refine button. I have 4 slightly twinned datasets, and so far the twin refine worked very well...but this should not happen, I think. Any explanations or advise? greetings, Christian Hi ccp4bb, I have a big problem

[ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, One can see from many posts on this listserve that in any given x-ray diffraction experiment, there are more data than merely the diffraction spots. Given that we now have vastly increased computational power and data storage capability, does it make sense to think

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Bernhard Rupp
I think these arguments for image conservation and image *use* are well taken. The best source of information of what is going on my be the imgCIF people, - I'd start with Andy Howard and Herbert Bernstein. I think that image data (after detector- and configuration-specific corrections to the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread William G. Scott
Dear Jacob: I think the main impediment is that more diffuse scattering, for example, isn't as easy to model as Bragg crystalline diffraction. But it is definitely useful. One example is tRNA: http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?am0009 Acta Cryst. (1994). D50, 210-218[

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Herbert J. Bernstein
I agree with Bernhard -- both on the soundness of the idea and on the difficulty in finding the right home for it in NSF or NIH, but I would suggest giving it a try. -- Herbert = Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science Dowling

Re: [ccp4bb] UV microscope for screening

2010-01-20 Thread Gabriel Birrane
I received this in the mail today. You may be interested. http://www.fmpproducts.com They have products for crystallography On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 11:28 -0500, Scott Walsh wrote: Dear CCP4BB members, I am shopping around for a UV microscope for the lab and would like to get some feedback

[ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Colin Nave
Jacob Yes, discussions have taken place but perhaps more private than on the CCP4 bulleting board! So I am glad someone has raised the issue. The present approximation that people make works very well in the majority of cases. The approximation is implied during the integration of a spot and is

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac resolution limit vs twin refine

2010-01-20 Thread Garib Murshudov
I thought this problem is fixed. Could you please try the version from: www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/latest_refmac.html Problem was that when refmac starts twinning analysis it uses generous tolerance and then filters out unlikely twin operators. When large deformation is needed merohedral

Re: [ccp4bb] UV microscope for screening

2010-01-20 Thread Phoebe Rice
Are these things really cost-effective? That is, compared to the cost of simply posting a list of evil salts like Mg ammonium phosphate on the wall and testing a few duds in the x-ray beam? Phoebe Original message Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:59:23 -0500 From: Gabriel Birrane

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Paul Smith
Hi Jacob, I see you're still in the crystallography business. While you have an interesting idea, I doubt refining structures against entire images would be of any use in obtaining higher quality macromolecular structures. Much of what you see on the screen is a function of parameters

Re: [ccp4bb] UV microscope for screening

2010-01-20 Thread Ed Pozharski
Phoebe, my understanding is that power of UV illumination here is not in salt-vs-protein test (which, imho, can only be finalized by testing diffraction) but in improved contrast for protein crystal detection. I haven't used UV microscopes myself, but images provided by manufacturers are quite

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Soisson, Stephen M
Jacob- Based on your question, you would likely be interested in doing some literature searches for the pioneering work of George Phillips and the utilization of diffuse scattering information. What you are thinking about has already been broached - nearly 20 yrs ago. It is likely that a

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Edward Snell
Hi Paul, I'll probably open myself up to criticism (welcomed) but I think I'd disagree with this somewhat. While crystallography from the Bragg reflections provides a nice static picture of the structure, looking at the diffuse scatter in more detail may give more knowledge about mechanism -

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Jacob Keller
There was a thread a while back which related to this a bit: Re: [ccp4bb] Small lines in diffraction pattern (more info) In that thread, there were mentioned the papers: Faure et al NSB 2 Feb 1994 Kajiwara J. Appl. Cryst. (1971). 4, 329 These seem to bear on the issue of diffuse scattering,

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Klaus Fütterer
A long time ago I did a bit of Rietveld refinement and I see some similarities between this approach and what people have been proposing in this thread. Refining against the profile of the 1-d powder diffraction pattern rather than extracting integrated intensities helped to improve the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-20 Thread Harry
Hi I, too, was struck by the potential similarity with Rietveld refinement, then started to think about the differences. The biggest difference, of course, is refining against many two-dimensional images compared to refining against a linear plot - so I'd guess in principle you'd get a

[ccp4bb] Acta E

2010-01-20 Thread Bernhard Rupp
I suppose most have read the Acta D editorial already http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2010/01/00/me0408/me0408.pdf but it seems another creative way of structure generation has been discovered by some small molecule people: http://journals.iucr.org/e/issues/2010/01/00/me0406/me0406.pdf Best,

[ccp4bb] convert sdf to pdf file

2010-01-20 Thread Raja Dey
Dear Friends, Is there anyone know how to convert sdf file into pdf file? sdf file contains chemdraw of a number of small molecule compounds plus some other parameters in different columns. I got a source code for 'sdf2mol.java', but is not working. Any suggestion is

[ccp4bb] Data processing webinars

2010-01-20 Thread Angela Criswell
I would like to draw your attention to an upcoming free webinar series that will cover several of the most widely used X-ray diffraction data processing packages. This series is part of a larger webinar program that focuses on topics 'near and dear' to the crystallographic community. The

Re: [ccp4bb] convert sdf to pdf file

2010-01-20 Thread Andrew Orry
Raja You can convert sdf format to pdf via the free ICM-Browser. Download it here: http://www.molsoft.com/icm_browser.html -- read in the sdf file into ICM-Browser and it will be displayed as chemical spreadsheet -- choose export to Excel and then save as PDF or use the print to file option

Re: [ccp4bb] Data processing webinars - correction

2010-01-20 Thread Angela Criswell
Please note a correction in the time zone. The correct time for the webinar is 9:00 AM CST so that would be 10:00 AM EST (15:00 UTC/GMT). Angela Angela Criswell angela.crisw...@rigaku.com Sent by: CCP4 bulletin board CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 01/20/2010 05:29 PM Please respond to Angela

[ccp4bb] XDS with CCP4i/XIA2

2010-01-20 Thread SAKAMOTO Yasumitsu
Dear all, I am trying to process some data. When I try to run XDS through XIA2/CCP4i, it gives an error message was descrived as below. Status: error XDS version December 28, 2009 not supported I am using CCP4 6.1.2, XIA2 0.3.1.0 and XDS December 28,2009 with the CCP4 Interface version 2.0.5

Re: [ccp4bb] XDS with CCP4i/XIA2

2010-01-20 Thread Nobuo OKAZAKI
Sakamoto-san, According to XIA2 blog, the new XDS works just fine with XIA2. http://xia2.blogspot.com/2010/01/happy-new-xds.html Modify value of supported_versions at line 77 in $XIA2_ROOT/Wrappers/XDS/XDS.py supported_versions = ['January 30, 2009'] to supported_versions = ['December 28,