Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

2018-05-17 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk
On May 17, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote: > Series 500 machines are quite rare. Someone should save these. I contacted him yesterday evening about it, but haven't had a reply yet. ok bear. -- until further notice

Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

2018-05-17 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
Is HP UX that it  runs similar  to what is on the HP INTEGRAL ?   In a message dated 5/17/2018 3:48:52 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   HP-UX did a fairly extensive kernel rewrite, but implemented substantially the same system call interface. This was apparent in a nu

Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

2018-05-17 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > HP-UX for them is very interesting from a historical perspective in that > the Unix kernel is a complete rewrite. It is hosted on top of HP’s “SUN > OS” operating system (there is also a single-user BAS

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > If your email program is crapping, it is not the responsibility of > everybody else to "adjust" their mail readers to filter out the crap. > This group has been remarkably tolerant of NON-ASCII content. > I

Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

2018-05-17 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
The 9000 Series 500 is very different from later 9000s. I don’t think there more than one speed of CPU, although there was an early and later CPU with the later CPU having a floating-point unit onboard. What you get out of a 9000 Series 550 over a Series 520 (aka 9020) is mostly more I/O slots

Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

2018-05-17 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
actually we are lacking 9000 gear for smecc. where is it located? we are in AZ... HP Computer Museum overseas is awesome... The site has saved us mauna time with the excellent documents there. ed# Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Thursday, May 17, 2018 David Collins via cctalk wrote: I agree w

Re: 6130B

2018-05-17 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
I just remembered I designed and prototype a replacement D/A board but it never got finished the client changed his mind On Thu, May 17, 2018, 1:38 PM Pete Lancashire wrote: > A different lifetime I used to use 6130s and it's cousins. We had them > connected to pdp-11s. We actually built our own

Re: 6130B

2018-05-17 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
A different lifetime I used to use 6130s and it's cousins. We had them connected to pdp-11s. We actually built our own version of an io board that looked like 4 DR11s I no longer have the board that I do have a couple the supplies that if you're in Portland Oregon let me know and I'll sell them at

Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

2018-05-17 Thread David Collins via cctalk
I agree with Al. Chas approached the HP Computer Museum on this and as much as they would be great to add to the collection, the shipping costs to Australia and the fact that the museum is more in a consolidation mode than acquisition meant we weren’t able to take them in. Hopefully someone c

RE: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
2018, at 11:47, Fred Cisin wrote: > > > > On Thu, 17 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > >> yep we see them but we did not type them intentionally > > > > https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/06/13/we/ > > > >> may way to adjust your mail reader reader as they do not show up in any > of the mai

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
there seems to be a difference sometimes in quote in ms word and regular ascii when posting some things some places Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Thursday, May 17, 2018 Frank McConnell via cctalk wrote: On May 17, 2018, at 11:47, Fred Cisin wrote: > > On Thu, 17 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
On May 17, 2018, at 11:47, Fred Cisin wrote: > > On Thu, 17 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: >> yep we see them but we did not type them intentionally > > https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/06/13/we/ > >> may way to adjust your mail reader reader as they do not show up in >> a

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
OK I do know the  Pine   I used it at the stat of the internet  with a text browser  for webpages also. This back when I ran them on a slow  PC that was unable to run mosaic etc etc etc.    Wow   flashback...  and not necessarily a  pleasant one! ( but those software items would run on darn near

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 17 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: wonder how many are running that version of alpine that exists errors? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Are you hypothesizing that it is a specific version of Alpine that creates the extraneous characters, and produces the errors of captialization, p

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 17 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: wonder how many are running that version of alpine that exists errors? The problem isn't on the destination end, it's on the origin. Asking me to adjust my email client to fix your problem is like a noisy neighbor demanding I wear earplugs.

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
wonder how many are running that version of alpine that exists errors? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Thursday, May 17, 2018 Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > yep we see them  but   we  did not  type them intentionally   https://quoteinvestigator.com

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 17 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: yep we see them?? but?? ??we?? did not?? type them intentionally https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/06/13/we/ may way to adjust?? your?? mail reader reader as?? they do not?? show up in?? ??any of the?? mail readers?? we have access to. Ed

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/16/2018 09:13 AM, jos via cctalk wrote: > Visited an older collector recently, and in his shed he has a strange > thing, labeled CDC, that somehow looks like a drum memory, but then > again not ( drum looks too small to be usefull ) > > The controller that goes with is  a transistor based  m

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
yep we see them  but   we  did not  type them intentionally   may way to adjust  your  mail reader reader as  they do not  show up in   any of the  mail readers  we have access to. Ed#    In a message dated 5/17/2018 10:24:41 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   > On We

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Robert Feldman via cctalk
> On Wed, 16 May 2018, geneb wrote: >> On Wed, 16 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: >> >>> OK? I? see there is a? mix? of? photos in this? directory! >>> some? tape? reader? some? drum? 2? separate? topics. >>> ? >> Ed, I don't know if you (or anyone else) can see this, but there's two junk >>

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/16/18 9:13 AM, jos via cctalk wrote: > Visited an older collector recently, and in his shed he has a strange thing, > labeled CDC, that somehow looks like a drum > memory, but then again not ( drum looks too small to be usefull ) > > The controller that goes with is  a transistor based  mo

Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

2018-05-17 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
Series 500 machines are quite rare. Someone should save these. On 5/16/18 10:00 PM, Lawrence Wilkinson via cctalk wrote: > I own several HP 9020 work stations along with peripheral gear associated > with that series.

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:11 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 17 May 2018, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > > On Wed, 16 May 2018, geneb wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 16 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: >>> >>> OK I see there is a mix of photos in this directory! some tape reade

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 17 May 2018, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018, geneb wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: OK  I  see there is a  mix  of  photos in this  directory! some  tape  reader  some  drum  2  separate  topics.   Ed, I don't know if you (or anyone else)

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Wed, 16 May 2018, Paul Koning wrote: On May 16, 2018, at 8:28 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: OK I see there is a mix of photos in this directory! some tape reader some drum 2 separate topics. Ed, I don't know if you (or anyon

Re: Datasheet for Signetics spc16/10 ( Single chip Philips P800 processor ) ?

2018-05-17 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM, jos via cctalk wrote: > Subject says it all : > > anyone has datasheets for this obscure single chip Philips P800-type > microprocessor ? Sorry :-( The only single-chip P800 I have any information on is numbered 'XSC2752', and I don't have a data sheet for that.

Re: Kaypro 2000 charging

2018-05-17 Thread joe heck via cctalk
The manual and the other documentation I've found online boasts a 4 hour useful runtime (with light to moderate floppy use) with a 24 hour charge. And yes, the unit is heavy, at about 13 pounds. Joe On 5/17/2018 1:17 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote: I've used NiCads in RC radios, a long as they h

Re: Datasheet for Signetics spc16/10 ( Single chip Philips P800 processor ) ?

2018-05-17 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 17 May 2018, jos wrote: ( this is not related to the General Automation SPC16 family) ... wherefore I still seek for print sets, software and so on ... Christian

Datasheet for Signetics spc16/10 ( Single chip Philips P800 processor ) ?

2018-05-17 Thread jos via cctalk
Subject says it all : anyone has datasheets for this obscure single chip Philips P800-type microprocessor ? Cant find anything but a student's report from 1981, and it is not listed in the Signetics databooks of the time ( +/- 1980) ( this is not related to the General Automation SPC16 famil

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

2018-05-17 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Wed, 16 May 2018, geneb wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: OK  I  see there is a  mix  of  photos in this  directory! some  tape  reader  some  drum  2  separate  topics.   Ed, I don't know if you (or anyone else) can see this, but there's two junk characters at the end