On Jan 30, 2021, at 10:09, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL. We do not have
> manuals either. We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still order
> ink for the printer. I do have an unopened ink cartrige.
HP 51604A. I was surprised
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 6:16 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk
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> I can't go very far with the EXB8200 because I don't have a cartridge
> for it. I am now trying the Compaq DLT4000.
>
You can still get boxes of sealed never used EXABYTE 112M 8mm data
tapes cheap. For example a quick search
> From: Glen Slick
> The KDJ11-E 11/93 has PMI signals on the CD connectors, so you need a
> Q/CD backplane
I have this bit set that plugging a PMI card into a Q/Q slot will damage it?
(I think the issue is that some PMI pins are 12V on normal QBUS; too tired
to check tonight, I'll
Thank you Jim, John, and Glen.
I'll see if I can find one to tryout.
Good night,
Nigel
Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
Skype: TILBURY2591 nw.john...@ieee.org
On 2021-01-30 8:52 p.m., Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
>
On 01/30/2021 07:41 PM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote:
btw, I found an Exabyte 8200 in a pile of stuff I bought at VCF East
last year (but one :-) ) Does anybody on the list have experience
getting this to work on a Dilog SQ703 under NetBSD?
Exabytes are pretty classic SCSi tape drives.
On 1/30/2021 6:16 PM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote:
I can't go very far with the EXB8200 because I don't have a cartridge
for it. I am now trying the Compaq DLT4000.
Off the shelf 8mm tape media works fine. Might not be "archival" rated,
but I have stuff that is 30 years old and reads
I can't go very far with the EXB8200 because I don't have a cartridge
for it. I am now trying the Compaq DLT4000.
Unfortunately there is not a lot the on-board Dilog diagnostics can do.
I have tried sedning direct commands to it such as unload, but nothing
ha[p[pens.it is my oinly hope to get
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 5:41 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> btw, I found an Exabyte 8200 in a pile of stuff I bought at VCF East
> last year (but one :-) ) Does anybody on the list have experience
> getting this to work on a Dilog SQ703 under NetBSD?
I'm not sure if I have tried an
Thanks, Glen. I got out of direct field work around that time, and set
up a subsidiary of Emulex in Canada - so I was more concerned with sales
figures than buses. That makes perfect sense, I had forgotten about the
11/94. Funny how all my controllers are now Dilog, Plessey, and Sigma :-)
btw,
It was thus said that the Great Bill Gunshannon via cctalk once stated:
> On 1/29/21 4:12 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >>On 01/29/2021 2:58 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> >>
> >
> >>'=' and '==' makes possible what is probably the most common error, and
> >>which the compiler doesn't
On Sat, 2021-01-30 at 12:37 -0800, Mark Moulding via cctalk wrote:
> On 1/29/21 12:58 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> > > I like indentation, and demanded it from my students.
> >
> > That's fine, but when you have a language that makes indentation part of
> > the language (i.e. no braces,
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 3:58 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk
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> OK, thanks, Glen, i didn't think of that! Not sure why they would do
> that with all memeory on-board!
>
The PMI interfaces of the KDJ11-B and KDJ11-E modules are used to
interface to the M8191 KTJ11-B UNIBUS adaptor in the
On 1/30/21 1:57 PM, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:
On 30/01/2021 12:45, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 1/29/21 4:25 PM, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:
On 01/29/21 15:58, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote (in part):
'=' and '==' makes possible what is probably the most common error,
and which
OK, thanks, Glen, i didn't think of that! Not sure why they would do
that with all memeory on-board!
One thing I though of was just buying some IDC 36-pin card edge
connectors and wiring them together for the work bench!
cheers,
Nigel
Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 2:20 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk
wrote:
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> Yes the BA11S would be too big. Can't see why not for the 11/03 chassis.
> I used to make a good living upgrading 1/03 chasses with four extra bits
> for the 11/23/73 (Hmm, where is my old stock of W933 bus strip!)
> Always
On 1/30/21 1:38 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> Actually, that was Chuck who said that "there be monsters" when
> languages use whitespace rather than punctuation to denote boundaries.
And then there's "make", where a hard tab must be used for indentation,
unless it's a recipe, then spaces
On 1/30/21 12:44 PM, Mark Moulding via cctalk wrote:
> I used to play string bass in a symphony, and there were many times that
> there would be long periods of rest, where it was important to count the
> bars (measures) going by so as to come back in at the right time. To
> this day (that was
Yes the BA11S would be too big. Can't see why not for the 11/03 chassis.
I used to make a good living upgrading 1/03 chasses with four extra bits
for the 11/23/73 (Hmm, where is my old stock of W933 bus strip!)
Always works except in the MINC laboratory system, which used those four
pins for
Actually, that was Chuck who said that "there be monsters" when languages
use whitespace rather than punctuation to denote boundaries.
I use both indentation for my readability AND brackets to be explicit.
Consider:
if condition
{ do this;
do that;
}
VS:
if (condition)
do this;
do
From: dwight
If we'd thought about it we could count to 1023 on our fingers.
I used to play string bass in a symphony, and there were many times that
there would be long periods of rest, where it was important to count the
bars (measures) going by so as to come back in at the right time.
On 1/29/21 12:58 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
I like indentation, and demanded it from my students.
That's fine, but when you have a language that makes indentation part of
the language (i.e. no braces, brackets or keywords denoting boundaries
of the block) , there be monsters.
And yes,
Hm. I have a 9 slot BA11-S that I have to sell/ebay/something here, but
that's probably way too big for you. I wonder though: Would an 11/93
explode if put in a traditional 18 bit 11/03 chassis? The one with the
memory refresh lines and power for core memory.
Probably.
CZ
On 1/30/2021 12:30
On 1/30/21 9:52 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 1/29/21 10:03 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
And unfortunately some industries it is prohibited. Those industries
*require* conformance to MISRA, CERT-C, ISO-26262 and others. There is
*no* choice since the code has to be audited
On 30/01/2021 12:45, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 1/29/21 4:25 PM, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:
On 01/29/21 15:58, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote (in part):
'=' and '==' makes possible what is probably the most common error,
and which the compiler doesn't catch:
if (x = 3) . . .  /*
Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL. We do not have manuals
either. We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still order ink for
the printer. I do have an unopened ink cartrige.
I will have to get a copy of this journal meanwhile I will read this one you
sent the
> On 01/30/2021 11:50 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> On 1/29/21 6:08 PM, Sean Conner via cctalk wrote:
> > It was thus said that the Great Will Cooke via cctalk once stated:
> > >
> >>> On 01/29/2021 4:42 PM David Barto via cctalk
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Whenever I start a
On 1/29/21 9:19 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 1/29/21 5:55 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
My problem with words such as DAA is that I constantly have to look them up to
see exactly what they actually do. Finding alternate uses it all about knowing
what they actually do. I know what they
On 1/29/21 10:03 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote:
>
> And unfortunately some industries it is prohibited. Those industries
> *require* conformance to MISRA, CERT-C, ISO-26262 and others. There is
> *no* choice since the code has to be audited and compliance is *not*
> optional.
Just an
On 1/29/21 6:08 PM, Sean Conner via cctalk wrote:
It was thus said that the Great Will Cooke via cctalk once stated:
On 01/29/2021 4:42 PM David Barto via cctalk wrote:
Whenever I start a new job the first thing I do today is enable -Werror;
all warnings are errors. And I’ll fix every
> On 01/30/2021 11:42 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
> wrote:
> > Modern Visual Studio and GCC both flag the "=" in a condition, I believe.
> > But if you're shipping code with 260+ warnings, who would see one more.
> And the problem here is really quite plain and simple.
> Why are you
On 1/29/21 4:25 PM, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:
On 01/29/21 15:58, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote (in part):
'=' and '==' makes possible what is probably the most common error,
and which the compiler doesn't catch:
if (x = 3) . . . /* sets x to 3 and gives TRUE for the condition */
I imagine
On 1/29/21 4:12 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
On 01/29/2021 2:58 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
'=' and '==' makes possible what is probably the most common error, and
which the compiler doesn't catch:
if (x = 3) . . . /* sets x to 3 and gives TRUE for the condition */
I imagine that
I assume you already have a copy of the Oct 1985 HP Journal?
http://hparchive.com/Journals/HPJ-1985-10.pdf
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk
wrote:
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> Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold.
>
> We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are
On 1/29/21 2:20 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
BTW, I don't really know Hebrew but doesn't it still write math LTR?
I know they write numbers that way.
CAREFUL.
We don't need another BIG-endian/little-endian debate!
(when a 16 bit number
> On Jan 29, 2021, at 8:27 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
>
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
>
> If we'd thought about it we could count to 1023 on our fingers.
> Dwight
My kids actually do that (because I did think about it when they were growing
up). And not just to impress me, I was watching the elder
I'm trying to repair an LSI-11/93 that has a bus timeout problem.
Unfortunately the BA23 box it normally sits in lives in a cupboard with
printers stowed on top of it and due to my domestic situation (small
condo) I can't get it out to scope or get a scope anywhere near it to
scope the bus.
I'm
Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold.
We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it
for.
Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters or anyting
visually related to this computer to make the display "more
On 01/30/2021 07:29 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
I'm making some replacement cables and paddle cards so I'm
on the lookout
for these connectors on cable assemblies.
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/dasd/21ED/chabin_4.jpg
You'd think there would be piles of them around since they
were used as
I'm making some replacement cables and paddle cards so I'm on the lookout
for these connectors on cable assemblies.
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/dasd/21ED/chabin_4.jpg
You'd think there would be piles of them around since they were used as
the interplanar connecting cables in lots of IBM
I was responsible for the Macintosh version and hence was both permitted to
address the changes and criticized for impacting the Windows builds - the
changes were in shared code.
I would probably face legal issues if I named names.
[You can always look me up in LinkedIn and, with minor
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