Re: Looking for old connectors

2016-07-10 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Tothwolf <tothw...@concentric.net> wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2016, Oliver Lehmann wrote: One is easy - J3 is a 2x10 pin 2.54mm connector which is still common today. But it is higher than the usual connectors. It has a hight of 1.5cm. If you search for the printed A-MP number (1-8

Re: Looking for old connectors

2016-07-10 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Thanks for your help so far - I was able to find them at mouser: One is easy - J3 is a 2x10 pin 2.54mm connector which is still common today. But it is higher than the usual connectors. It has a hight of 1.5cm. If you search for the printed A-MP number (1-87456-6), you'll find the housing,

Re: Vintage Computer Forum

2016-04-14 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Rod Smallwood wrote: I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no user name no password or anything else to search with. Please repeat your message in understandable English Rod Smallwood Try: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/member.php?35160-Rod-Smallwood

Re: ISIS-II disks with PLM80 and ICE80 software.

2016-02-02 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi Mattis, all I can contribute here are german IS/M Manuals of my P8000 which state, that this IS/M is compatible to ISIS II 4.1. Most likely, this IS/M is just a copy of IS/M + modifications to the specific hardware. No idea how helpful german text is to you though But that is all I have

Re: Terminal Emulation for Windows - supporting Kermit File Transfer

2016-01-26 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi Chris, Christian Groessler <ccmp...@yahoo.de> wrote: On 01/25/16 19:58, Oliver Lehmann wrote: c) Mapping my Windows COM-Port to a FreeBSD Oracle VirtualBox VM seems to work, but I'm not able to send CTRL + \ + C via Putty to the VM to get back from my serial connection to

Re: Terminal Emulation for Windows - supporting Kermit File Transfer

2016-01-25 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Not so much of luck so far a) http://www.kermitproject.org/k95sourcecode.html lists 2 "projects" with windows binaries. The first one seems to work, but when it comes to downloading files from the connected system, k95 just terminates. the 2nd project just does not start at all. b)

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-30 Thread Oliver Lehmann
OK, detatching the power cord of the disk from my PC while running FreeBSD and reattaching it also brings up error code 4 on the next access. This does not happen with other drives. So it must be some sort of initialisation the OS or BIOS does which readies up the drive. Oliver Lehmann <l

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-30 Thread Oliver Lehmann
probably have to do only the 10h and 91h stuff... just need to find out more about it. Does anyone know what command 10h is? The documentation I have only states "obsolete". Oliver Lehmann <lehm...@ans-netz.de> wrote: OK, detatching the power cord of the disk from my PC whil

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-30 Thread Oliver Lehmann
OK, I just got my Logic Analysator and traced the communication on my PC while forcing it to do PIO instead of DMA. I then changed my AVR code to do the exact same commands and nearly the same timings and... nothing changed - the drive still responds with error code 0x04 after the read sector

ST-251 MLC-1

2015-12-23 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi, I knew ST-251-0, ST-251-1 drives for ST506. Some time ago I've got a ST-251 labled "MLC-1". Does someone knows what the MLC stands for? What is different to the other ST-251 variants? It looks like a regular ST506 drive. Oliver

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-14 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Marc Verdiell wrote: Danke sehr, Oliver! Is your implementation available online? Yes - here it is: https://github.com/OlliL/P8000_WDC_Emulator/tree/master/P8000_WDC_Emulator But right now I'm working on an enhanced version of it where I don't uses latches for the

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-12 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/11/2015 05:02 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Which is perfectly fine - I just want to see what is going on the drive interface + timings - to see what is going on differently from my implementation. If I've got the drive and it's working, at

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-12 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/11/2015 04:35 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Western Digital Caviar 31600 it is. I took a peek today and found that I've got a couple of AC31200 drives, but no 31600s. Do you think that the 31200 is close enough to your drive? Probab

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-12 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/12/2015 12:23 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: http://files.pofo.de/20151212_212051.jpg http://files.pofo.de/20151212_212105.jpg I also have newer Caviars 26400 and 23200 which are working fine. Nope--green line and the PCB doesn't look like

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-11 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi Chuck, Chuck Guzis wrote: I found the section "400 nsec delays" an interesting read, particularly the bit about reading the status register five times. http://wiki.osdev.org/ATA_PIO_Mode --Chuck You are completely right, but the drive is selected always as this is

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-11 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Oliver Lehmann <lehm...@ans-netz.de> wrote: Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/11/2015 12:04 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: This is the question... what is the "correct data"? Would I be able to see the cyl/sector/head information I've set before in that buffe

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-11 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/11/2015 04:35 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Western Digital Caviar 31600 it is. I'm waiting for a 32Port-LA (might take up to a month). When it is there I'll continue debugging that issue and see what a MS-DOS does different from what I do.

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-11 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi Chuck, Chuck Guzis wrote: If you issue a "read sector buffer" right after the LBA read sector aborts, do you get the correct data back? This is the question... what is the "correct data"? Would I be able to see the cyl/sector/head information I've set before in that

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-11 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/11/2015 01:26 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: I now tried something different. I issued a "format track command" and sent 512 bytes afterwards as described in the ata spec. The drive does not respond with an error, and when I read the sec

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-11 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/11/2015 12:04 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: This is the question... what is the "correct data"? Would I be able to see the cyl/sector/head information I've set before in that buffer? I didn't understand what the sector buffer real

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-11 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Marc Verdiell wrote: Just going by what you write...BTW, what are you using as a reference? I've used ftp://ftp.seagate.com/acrobat/reference/111-1c.pdf a lot. Also other IDE implementations on ATMegas. Do you mind providing links to any good implementations of IDE

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-10 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/10/2015 12:18 AM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: for LBA: while ( pata_bsy() ) {} write_io_register ( PATA_RW_SECTOR_COUNT_REGISTER, 1 ); write_io_register ( PATA_RW_SECTOR_NUMBER_REGISTER, 0 ); write_io_register ( PATA_RW_CYLINDER_LOW_REGIS

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-10 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/09/2015 09:58 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: And this is whst I do/did. The drive supports LBA. I also tried CHS with it and oft course i used cyl 0, head 0 and sector 1 without success. I now ordered a cheap chinese LA When you say that y

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-10 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Answering your other notes now - sorry for skipping them in my earlier mail ;) Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/10/2015 12:21 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: right - This is what I do in the code - I was writing "from memory". Just going by what you write...BTW, wh

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-10 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis wrote: ABRT set in the error register basically indicates that the drive isn't ready or that there's something wrong with the command. You may want to insert some debug code that displays exactly what's being written to the drive registers. Did that -

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-10 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote: On 12/10/2015 01:37 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: OK - but those drives should also work on non-PATA-6 systems but with reduced capacity - right? As I recall (it's been at least a decade and a half), that's true--you just don't get the full drive.

Re: CDC Finch Alternatives Today [WAS:RE: Evotek Winchester Harddisk]

2015-12-09 Thread Oliver Lehmann
e were some small SMDs, e.g. Micropolis 1403, Priam 804 but most were 14-inch. Perhaps there is a CDC SMD expert in this group that can help Tom -Original Message- From: Oliver Lehmann [mailto:lehm...@ans-netz.de] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 11:39 AM To: General Discussion: On

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-09 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Chuck Guzis wrote: On 12/09/2015 02:14 PM, Philip Pemberton wrote: I thought the first valid sector on an IDE disk was sector 1, CHS 0:0:1? Yes; it's only 0 in LBA mode. And this is whst I do/did. The drive supports LBA. I also tried CHS with it and oft course i

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-08 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Oliver Lehmann <lehm...@ans-netz.de> wrote: Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> wrote: On 2015-12-08 2:16 AM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Hi Warner, hi Brad, ... I don't intend to use this harddrive anyway, I just fear that I made a misstake in my circuit or the code and others inte

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-08 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> wrote: On 2015-12-08 2:16 AM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Hi Warner, hi Brad, ... I don't intend to use this harddrive anyway, I just fear that I made a misstake in my circuit or the code and others intending to use my emulator also experiencing pr

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-08 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Oliver Lehmann <lehm...@ans-netz.de> wrote: Oliver Lehmann <lehm...@ans-netz.de> wrote: Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> wrote: On 2015-12-08 2:16 AM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Hi Warner, hi Brad, ... I don't intend to use this harddrive anyway, I just fear that I mad

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-07 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi Warner, hi Brad, I have an old russian 50MHz dual-beam osciloscope but without any storage functionality. -> http://files.pofo.de/P1070427.JPG I guess it would not be that easy to actually display the whole communication cylce. I could see how good the flanks are, but I guess my AVR does it

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-07 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Joseph Lang wrote: Try sector count=1 Good eyes! :) Unfortunally it was just a type I made in the mail. Sector count is of course 1. Regards, Oliver

Re: Evotek Winchester Harddisk

2015-12-07 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Tom Gardner wrote: The Evotek drive initially used the notoriously unreliable Ampex Alar plated media; whether they ever upgraded to sputtered media is uncertain. It probably should be avoided. I would look for an replacement drive using oxide media. The nice

Re: Evotek Winchester Harddisk

2015-12-07 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Tom Gardner wrote: Sorry If I didn't make myself clear, I am suggesting one never acquire an Evotek drive today other than perhaps as an historical curiosity. The Finch was a short lived 8-inch HDD that went up to 42 MB unformatted BUT according to Disk/Trend

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-07 Thread Oliver Lehmann
, Oliver Oliver Lehmann <lehm...@ans-netz.de> wrote: Hi, OK, i tried now to set Drive/Head first before I set all the other registers. No success. I then added a 10ms delay after the data is set for each register, disable /WR and then wait another 10ms before I execute the next register.

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-07 Thread Oliver Lehmann
. It stays 0x50 everytime I check it and just after I issue the command it goes to 0x59. Feel a bit clueless here :/ Oliver Oliver Lehmann <lehm...@ans-netz.de> wrote: Hi Toby, Toby Thain <t...@telegraphics.com.au> wrote: I think Jon is probably on to something. You can check ou

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-06 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote: On 12/06/2015 02:57 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Hi, I've built a Harddisk-Controller-Emulator for my system which accesses a IDE (PATA) harddisk with an ATMega in PIO mode. It works like a charm except for one WD harddisk. The harddisk itself

IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-06 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi, I've built a Harddisk-Controller-Emulator for my system which accesses a IDE (PATA) harddisk with an ATMega in PIO mode. It works like a charm except for one WD harddisk. The harddisk itself works fine with MS-DOS 6.22 and FreeBSD but refuses to work with my ATMega. On reading or writing a

Re: IDE knowledge anyone?

2015-12-06 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi Toby, Toby Thain wrote: I think Jon is probably on to something. You can check out the delays in my PIO bit-banging code here: http://www.telegraphics.com.au/svn/picide/trunk/ I tested it on a few drives & spent a lot of quality time with the spec...of course

Evotek Winchester Harddisk

2015-12-05 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi, has anyone ever heard of Evotek ET-5800 series Winchester harddisks? I wonder which interface they have. I'm looking for a replacement of a CDC FINCH 9410 and wonder if they would be a possible replacement. ET-5800: http://www.ebay.de/itm/252174622907 CDC-FINCH:

Re: Could someone make the list do the [cctalk] thing in the subject line?

2015-11-17 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Hi Mark, "Mark J. Blair" wrote: This would be helpful, and consistent with many other mailing lists. I use filters to direct traffic from my many mailing list subscriptions into appropriate sub-folders outside my main inbox. I filter this list based on addressing, but

Re: Z8000 Assembler anyone?

2015-11-13 Thread Oliver Lehmann
cross assembly tool, or if you have a working Z8000 OS with the tool. Others may infer that by knowing more about the things you refer to. however working Z8000 systems running an OS are a bit rare these days. thanks Jim On 11/13/2015 12:06 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote: Hi, I found out