On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:24 PM Brad H via cctalk
wrote:
> Sometimes. But a lot of times it's just simply trying to get as much as
> possible, which I guess is rational economic behavior. And the fault for
> the high prices is us collectors - ye who bid thousands for old Apple IIs
> or $3500 fo
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:50 AM Mike Katz via cctalk
wrote:
> However, epay does charge an insertion fee so they will have to pay even
> when it doesn't sell.
It's thirty five cents, and they usually don't charge it until it actually
sells. Then they dock you another 13.25% on the total the b
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:38 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:46 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On 8/28/23 10:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> > > It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping
> > > https:
On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:02 PM Mark Linimon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > I guess not many have survived but I want to ask if someone/some place
> has
> > software (papertapes, ...) for the Texas Instruments 960 minicomputers.
>
> If any survive, please be sure to keep me at lea
On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 5:51 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> I don't mean to be argumentative. I totally get it why the apple I is
> historic and valuable, but the proportion is lost. My only point, the
> proportion. The fact that today Apple is worth $1Tn does not
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 7:49 PM Dennis Boone via cctalk
wrote:
> > Surely you hyperbole.
>
> Since it's used in Android for various things, and in Firefox and
> Chromium for various things, he's not in the least.
>
Oh. OK.
Sellam
>
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 8:31 PM Gavin Scott via cctalk
wrote:
> It [SQLite] has billions of installations and on the order of a trillion
> databases in use.
>
Surely you hyperbole.
Sellam
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 12:35 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 18, 2023, at 12:48 PM, The Doctor via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > --- Original Message ---
> > On Thursday, August 17th, 2023 at 13:29, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
>
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 4:32 PM Mike Katz via cctalk
wrote:
> I'm looking for a good inventory program to help me keep track of all of
> my PDP-8 stuff.
>
> I would like to keep track of physical location, board etch revision,
> board modification revision, bus type, where used, etc.
>
> If you h
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> If I weren't old and if I were a collector, I'd be going after an MCM/70
> as my target. 8008 CPU, APL and pretty darned close to the first
> mobile-capable PC.
>
> Gotta love them Canadians.
>
Definitely a sleeper. Very hard to fi
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 3:32 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> I have a MITS Altair 8800 that I constructed from the kit back in 1975.
> I haven't touched the thing in over 30 years--nor am I likely to.
> It'll probably go to the e-recycler (hopefully not the landfill) when I
> shed this mortal co
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 9:48 AM Joshua Rice via cctalk
wrote:
>
> The Apple 1 is collectible purely because it was the first product Apple
> made.
Not really, though that's part of it. The value of the Apple 1 has more to
do with the Cult of Steve than anything else. Steve Jobs became the most
c
Apple 1 prices have definitely peaked...for now. But you won't find one for
a few funded dollars in your lifetime, if ever. They're now an object of a
rich man's obsession.
Sellam
On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, 6:51 AM John Herron via cctalk
wrote:
> That price is interesting. Does that imply the value
On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 6:20 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> I did not get any of whatever mailings there were.
>
> I don't exhibit, but I do have an excessive amount of stuff to sort and
> pack for sale and giveaway.
>
> --
> Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
We'll just have
I'm sure there are at least a couple of you who will be attending the VCF
this weekend in Mountain View at the Computer History Museum.
Is there anything that anyone might want/need? Please send me a private
message if you're looking for something and if I have what you want I can
bring it with m
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 11:48 AM Steven Stengel via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I want to buy an old computer from a guy I don’t know in Houston (I’ll pay
> shipping to CA), but it’s a lot of money, and I don’t want to lose it -
> what are my options?
> Thanks-
> Steve.
I'm sure we
Bruce transferred everything in DigiBarn to System Source Computer Museum
in Maryland.
Sellam
On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 6:24 PM Don R via cctalk
wrote:
> You might also try contacting someone at Digibarn.
>
> Don Resor
>
> Sent from someone's iPhone
>
> > On Jul 21, 2023, at 5:58 PM, r.stricklin
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 3:34 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> > So, I was an acquaintance of John Draper, rather than a survivor, because
> >> I never work out.
> >> --
> >> Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
>
> On Thu, 20 Jul 202
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 3:09 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> John has a twitter account and he's apparently hit on hard times, asking
> for contributions so he can keep his Internet service...
>
> --Chuck
>
That's pretty much par for the course with him.
Sellam
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 2:15 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>> Chuck's only saying that because he wasn't invited to "work out."
> >>
> >> Those of us who received such invites should form a club or somethin
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:42 AM Christian Kennedy via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On 7/20/23 04:49, John Foust via cctalk wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > Chuck's only saying that because he wasn't invited to "work out."
>
> Those of us who received such invites should form a club or somethin'
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 8:35 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 7/19/23 19:58, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> > A quick google turned this up.
> >
> > https://www.securityweek.com/famed-hacker-kevin-mitnick-dead-at-59/
>
> Too bad, but on the other hand, John Draper turned 80 this year.
> Probab
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 1:58 PM Ethan O'Toole via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > I'll be there. Hello Ethan. Bring some good stuff for me to buy. jk.
> > -andy
>
> Years ago there was an auction of an Internet Kiosk company in Newport
> News Virginia. I decided to go. It was well adver
On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 1:31 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Sad to hear about Don Lancaster. Things like this is what motivated me to
> make the "domesticating the computer" video, which briefly mentions the TV
> Typewriter - to honor these "living legends". I wish
On my Apple ] [ with 48k memory I used to be able to sample audio from the
cassette port and store about 30 seconds of audio that was fairly decent
quality upon playback. With a 1MB RAM board installed I was able to sample
the entire ~5 minutes of Led Zeppelin's Over The Hills And Far Away from
the
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 5:47 PM Doug Jackson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Kind of like making sure that 400V capacitor was discharged before handing
> it to your lab mate in class :-)
>
How else are we to know that the capacitor is charged, or that the link is
dangerous?
;)
Sella
Brad,
That's a new one on me.
But the split CRT reminds me of a 1970s IBM desk computer (it was a
computer built into a desk, I forget the model number) and it had a similar
display.
I wonder if this isn't some third-party IBM compatible terminal?
Sellam
On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 10:27 PM Brad H
Don Lancaster passed away on June 7.
https://gilaherald.com/obituary-for-don-lancaster/
I hope his website is well preserved:
https://tinaja.com/
Sellam
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 1:53 PM Warner Losh via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> OK. I have just read in a bunch of Rainbow disks. Most of them read fine on
> the first, second or third try. Some have a sector or three amiss (I've not
> yet checked to see if those sectors are mapped to the
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:02 PM ben via cctalk
wrote:
> On 2023-06-16 12:24 p.m., Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
> > I was at a Comdex once in Chicago where the featured speaker was Bill
> > Gates and he said that Microsoft would never write a program that needed
> > more than 256K of memory.
> >
>
Based on other videos of Dave's that I've watched he doesn't really know
what he's talking about so I wouldn't lend much credence to his apocrypha
either.
Sellam
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023, 9:47 PM Ali via cctalk wrote:
> So I had always heard the quote "640KB is enough memory" being attributed
> to
On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 1:43 PM Robert Feldman via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >Message: 21
> >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 04:35:28 +0100
> >From: Tony Duell
> >Subject: [cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.
> >
> >On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 10:57 PM Fred Cisin via cctal
On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 2:53 PM Bjoren Davis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> When it was decomissioned it was just cut out, so it's missing its
> chassis, hinges, controller board, power supplies, vacuum blower, vacuum
> pressure limit switches, etc. The cables to the heads are just
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 4:41 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023, Yeechang Lee via cctalk wrote:
> > Hyperion was not alone in having trouble with comm ports. Columbia
> > University (my alma mater) reported in January 1984 that unmodified
> > Kermit ran on Compaq and Columbia PCs
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 1:21 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> If/when I dig it out, how much should I ask for it? (Berkeley California)
> NO, Ed, I won't give it away AND pay shipping.
:D
> EARLY 5150, but with trivial modifications, such as additional holes in
> brackets for 4 half-height
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 1:09 PM Santo Nucifora via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Sellam,
>
> Bo Zimmerman at Zimmers.net has a picture of one here:
>
> http://www.zimmers.net/commie/canonical.php?UPTOP&cat=PC+Series&prod=1&model=PC-3052
>
> Here is one booting up on Youtube:
> https://ww
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 12:39 PM Santo Nucifora via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 3:04 PM db via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> That is very interesting. I've seen Commodore Hyperion's in the same case
> but with the molded "Commodore" brand instead of "Hyperion" but figure
On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 1:16 PM Rick Bensene via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I'm not sure that you could fit a complete Model 33-ASR Teletype in the
> passenger seat of
> the Bug. I suppose if the Teletype was removed from its stand, it might be
> able to sit on the
> seat, and be powe
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 5:50 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> My original comment was intended to be analogous to Tony (ARD)'s
> comment about problem with "sneaker-net" due to "sneakers" being
> unobtanium in UK. (yes, they do have some shoes that WE might consider to
> be the same as "sneakers
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 5:20 PM Alexander Schreiber via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> So the Mercedes T model was (at least in Germany, the manufacturers
> country)
> never called a "station wagon" because that category name doesn't exist
> there. The closest analogue to it in German p
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 8:24 AM Ethan Dicks via cctalk
wrote:
> I did see an actual 1970s station wagon loaded with RL02 cartridges
> once, pulled up at the dock of Baker Systems, the large Computer
> Science building at Ohio State (I suspect they were cleaning out a
> machine room and someone wan
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 7:32 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> >>> What is the bandwidth of a station wagon full of 1TB Mcro-SD cards
> >>> hurtling down the highway?
> >> I suspect that a mobility scooter filled with a few thousand 1TB microSD
> >> cards rolling down a sidewalk has a larger band
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 5:01 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> What is the bandwidth of a station wagon full of 1TB Mcro-SD cards
> hurtling down the highway?
>
This is actually a compelling thought.
My answer: a lot.
With regards to punched cards: I imagine I converted about 200,000 during
th
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:09 AM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > On May 30, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > In 1981 when i got my first 5MB hard disk drive at work (I had to write
> the drivers for the OS myself) I was able to put all or my sou
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 9:37 AM Tony Duell via cctalk
wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 5:09 PM philip--- via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > I wasn't trying to solve the whole problem at once!
> >
> > A lot of people have recommended "sneakernet" to connect your modern
>
> That's an expression which alw
Tom,
You may save yourself some time with this nifty contraption ==>
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303620862566
It's a floppy disk cleaning apparatus. You place the floppy disk into the
frame, apply your cleaning solution and cloth to the index opening, and
then manually spin the disk.
Sellam
On Th
Tony,
You are extraordinarily tedious.
Sellam
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 2:52 AM Tony Duell via cctalk
wrote:
> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 2:14 PM Liam Proven via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
>
> > > And
> > > of course it has to have the right type of disk controller, I
> > > certainly need to be able to h
I learned a long time ago that it's a waste of time to trying to help
someone who, instead of focusing on solutions, just comes up with endless
reasons why your suggestions won't work.
Sellam
On Mon, May 22, 2023, 6:14 AM Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
> On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 10:40, Tony Duell
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:01 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Both UPS and Fedex will sometimes falsely claim that they had made a
> delivery attempt.
I've experienced this.
> Does REA claim to have delivered the Altair?
>
I don't know that anyone can ever know at this point.
I'm thinki
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM steve shumaker via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> A mostly similar variation has it that they shipped the unit via Railway
> Express Agency (remember REA??) and as the story goes, it was in
> transit when REA closed their doors unexpectedly and with no w
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:29 AM Brent Hilpert via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Might note also that the Altair on/in the Pop Electronics issue is
> physically vastly different than what shipped, it's not even the same case.
Yes. According to lore, that unit got lost in transit to
Salisbury is the place in England where they used to dump the unusable
remnants of the animals that went to slaughter.
Sellam
On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 12:18 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 5/7/23 11:58, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote:
> > Did you ever choose the myste
AT&T recently ran a fiber line along the boulevard adjacent to the farm.
The hold-up in ordering service is that they want a state-issued
identification, which I don't have, and don't want to have. Their most
incredibly obnoxiously stupid reason for this is (and I kid you not) "you
will have our m
On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:46 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> > On 5/4/23 13:23, geneb via cctalk wrote:
> >> You can get free access via http://www.eternal-september.org/, however
> >> they don't carry any binary groups. (no loss really)
>
> On Thu, 4 May 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> >
With all due respect, Bill, this is a 3D printing mailing list question.
Sellam
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 11:26 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks Dennis and Gene. That did the trick.
>
> I tried to do that but it seemed all I changed was view but with your
>
It looks like a Turbo encabulator but it's missing the flux capacitor.
Sellam
On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 6:47 PM W2HX via cctalk
wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what I picked up at a NH hamfest this weekend for $20?
> I see it says RL01/RL02. I have two RL02 drives and some platters. None of
> which I
Little old Billy G?
lol, like he gives a shit. He's too busy selling his snake oil and figuring
out ways to turn bugs and chemicals into your next meal.
I literally should have strangled him to death when I had the opportunity.
Sellam
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 11:17 PM Tom Hunter via cctalk
wrote:
Well, it was his stuff, and he had a right to decide what to do with it
after his passing.
But I have and am entitled to my opinions, and that is utter shite.
Sellam
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 8:30 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 4/24/23 03:18, Pete Turnbull via ccta
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 3:16 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> On 2023/04/18 9:40 a.m., Tony Duell wrote:
> > The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason.
> > The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the
> > root cause.
>
> Isn't there usually a larger, m
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 6:59 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk
wrote:
> The Ebay listing hasn't sold but has been relisted at the same price.
>
Indeed, it appears to be:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225514573805
Non-paying "buyer"? Or shenanigans?
Sellam
>
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:17 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Glad the photos help. I hope the average general public wasn't too
> disappointed or discouraged by the crowd on Saturday - but I tried to think
> of the positive side, of there still being interest in vinta
Steve,
Those "kind of geese-bird" geese are indeed geese, known (appropriately
enough) as Canadian Honkers. I usually have a gaggle or at least a pair
hanging around the pond on my farm as they migrate through.
It's not at all surprising that you could hear them 5 stories up. You
could probably
Uncommon, certainly. But rarity isn't always the primary factor driving
price. Sometimes it's desirability. Apparently, enough people covet this
machine to pay 4 figures for one.
Sellam
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 9:51 AM Christopher Zach via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> A 9825a is rare? I
Hmm, somehow that didn't come up in Terapeak search.
Crazy.
Sellam
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 9:16 AM John Robertson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 2023/04/17 9:12 a.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > My initial reaction is that $2,000 seems a "bit&
My initial reaction is that $2,000 seems a "bit" optimistic.
That being said, I'm surprised to see (on eBay's Terapeak) a couple of
these sold within the past year for around $1,100.
Sellam
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 8:52 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk
wrote:
> There is a gentlemen in New Jersey willing
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023, 9:40 AM ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> I disagree, I decided to buy new computer game after about 20 years.
> The last game I played was Tomb Raider I. I like the explore type rather
> than the RPG games. Being muilt-platform the game has over 20 keys
> that map to game pad rather
On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 7:19 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> All Intel based products should go dark for one clock cycle. (unlike
One clock cycle is very RISCy. With Intel you'd need at least 5 to execute
the same solemn silence.
Nixon's death, where we had eighteen and a half minutes of s
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 12:17 PM geneb via cctalk
wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2023, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Well the data are still there and could be retrieved with a
> sophisticated servo on data system and/or a probe head on the data surfaces.
> > Simpler to hit the spindle motor top d
I once heard a story from someone* who was told by a journalist that while
said journalist was interviewing Richard Stallman he was [WARNING: GRAPHIC
CONTENT COMMENCES HERE] picking the jam from between his toes and eating it.
Make of that what you will, but if that isn't just a slander, that's th
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 4:11 PM Rich Alderson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> The term "minicomputer" was marketing speak: The first computer to
> receive the
> appellation was the PDP-8/e, which was the third generation of the PDP-8
> family
> (where the PDP-5 is "generation zero").
On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:15 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> On 3/14/2023 3:03 AM, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote:
> > The cafeteria is open, there is a Starbucks and even a nice Italian
> across
> > the street if you want to treat yourself. On Wednesdays we have a demo
> of
> > the IBM 1401 at
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:28 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week.
> I always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something else
> happens. Any recommendations of what is a must see at th
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:52 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week.
> > I always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something else
> happens. Any recommendations
> > of what is a must see at th
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 3:58 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> OB_3-phase anecdote:
>
That internet convention (OB) is so old now it's archaic, and vintage in
and of itself. Amazing.
> So, they decided to replace it with microcomputers. They sold it to a
> local school district, and bought a
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 1:12 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 3/10/23 12:50, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Please explain, Chuck.
>
> Sure, bake the disks (I'm sure you know how to do this), then just
> before reading, coat
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:47 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 3/8/23 9:18 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
> > I acquired an IBM PS/2 Model 80 (8580-071) today and am looking for
> > advice on what I should do to check it out before, during, and after
> > applying power for
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:21 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> This whole mess is to complicated to ever sort out and loaded with more
> opinion than fact. Probably because in reality all three terms are
> marketing speak and don't have real, verifiable definition
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:58 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 3/10/23 09:25, Christopher Zach via cctalk wrote:
> > Maybe. I've seen a lot of floppy rot on some of these rx50s. Black stuff
> transfers to the head then the head damages other floppies. Result is a
> me
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 8:06 AM Zane Healy via cctalk
wrote:
> > On Mar 8, 2023, at 11:36 AM, Tom Gardner via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > I’ve worked on tape articles in Wikipedia and they are for the most part
> pretty good. If u find any errors or omissions I hope u will u
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:57 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > Jeri Ellsworth made integrated circuits in her garage.
> > I wonder how much challenge would be involved in making artisan batches
> of
> > 5.25&q
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 4:34 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 3/9/23 16:00, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote:
> > https://www.wired.com/story/why-the-floppy-disk-just-wont-die/
> >
> > Take what you want from the article, but I thought the end paragraph,
> > noting that Tom Persky of floppydisk.com
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 2:18 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 3/9/23 13:51, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote:
> >...
>
> Use the NYT definition of a minicomputer from 1970. "Costs less than
> $25,000" (in 1970 dollars).
>
> --Chuck
Like "vintage", or pornography, it's one of those things that
It seems to come down to agreement (or lack thereof) on the definition of
"personal computer".
Somehow I feel like this debate has been had before. Probably here.
Probably several times.
Sellam
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 9:31 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > John,
> > > I have the
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 2:16 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
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> On 3/8/23 13:53, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On the subject of 1/2" ope
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:39 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
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> On the subject of 1/2" open-reel tape, I note that the tapes initially
> used with the IBM 726 drive (1952) used a cellulose acetate base. In
> 1956, a switch was made to Mylar. That's unfortunate, since early
> existing 726 tapes
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:11 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
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> About eight years later, I bought a TRS80 for $398. Yes, you could buy
> it without the video monitor and cassette recorder.
> If I had a little more spending money, I might have gotten a PET, instead,
> or, not much later, but more m
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 1:04 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On 3/8/2023 2:49 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
> > Don't forget that Heathkit had analog home computer kits in the 50's
> > and 60's
> >
> >
>
> I forgot all about mt GE Analog computer from the late 50
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 12:40 PM Will Cooke via cctalk
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> Everyone on this list is going to die sometime. Some sooner than later.
> We need young people if all or any part of this history is going to be
> preserved past us. All of the "museum" fiascos that have been covered here
> show how
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:55 AM Will Cooke via cctalk
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> > On 03/08/2023 11:59 AM CST Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
>
> > We probably need to get more advice from her on what we all, old-school
> timers, should do to help keep the legacy going on !
> >
> >
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:54 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I don’t think there is a strict definition of what a home computer is. One
> can argue Plato is one. Another might say Atari 2600. Someone can argue
> that the Altair is the first.
A very good argument coul
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:54 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I don’t think there is a strict definition of what a home computer is. One
> can argue Plato is one. Another might say Atari 2600. Someone can argue
> that the Altair is the first. It is unfair to make the au
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:49 AM Mike Katz via cctalk
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> Don't forget that Heathkit had analog home computer kits in the 50's and
> 60's
>
>
> https://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/restoring-the-heathkit-es-400-computer
>
> https://s3data.computerhistory.org/brochures/heath.analog.1956.
Tom,
What an excellent bibliography for the topic.
Thank you.
Sellam
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:45 AM Tom Gardner via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> If you want authoritative sources I highly recommend:
>
> *IBM J. RES. DEVELOP. • VOL. 25 • NO. 5 • SEPTEMBER 1981, has an
> art
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 6:12 AM Paul Koning via cctalk
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> I'm not familiar with PLATO cassettes. Are those attached to terminals?
> The oldest data cassettes I know of are on the TI Silent 733 terminals --
> which were thought of as paper tape emulation done on audio cassettes, at
> 300 b
On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:17 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
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> If anyone knows of a Sharp PC-5000 that might be available.
>
> I've been looking for one for a while.
>
> Might be more in the Japanese or European vintage market?
>
> Prefer working, I've been curious about
On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 9:53 AM Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Tarek Hoteit wrote:
> > I still don’t know who runs [SDF]
>
> Stephen M. Jones.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDF_Public_Access_Unix_System#History
> https://archive.org/details/bbs-20030526-sdf
> https
DDG is just a Google fish bowl. Same data set, similar results.
If you're concerned about privacy, there are much better options available.
Sellam
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023, 3:40 AM Adrian Godwin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I normally use DuckDuckGo as it's the default in Brave, the
On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 5:04 PM Zane Healy wrote:
> > That being said, all search engines are more or less broken today, due
> to a
> > number of factors. It's like we're back in 1996. Except worse.
> >
> > Sellam
>
> That’s an interesting observation Sellam, and I have to agree. In
> thinking
On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 1:45 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
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> On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, Eric Moore wrote:
> > I am very sorry to anyone I insulted. My tone was condescending. My only
> > intention was sincere concern for any fellow travellers who may be
> reading.
>
> Not to worry.
> We know your inten
On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 11:28 AM Angel M Alganza via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 2023-02-09 15:31, Eric Moore via cctalk wrote:
>
> > If in doubt, GOOGLE THE WEBSITE, and see if valid websites link to it,
> > if
> [...]
> > Stay safe out there :)
>
> In my opinion, one of the first
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