Re: REL APL-11

2020-04-01 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:33:45AM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > Like any other language, APL is only obfuscated to those who never > learned to understand it. I was required to take it at Rice University circa 1974. I got quite good at it. A week later, I had *no* idea what the

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctech > wrote: > > On 3/30/20 3:21 PM, Mark Matlock via cctech wrote: >> Bill, >>The APL-11 files on DECUS RSX85A are not a complete distribution but a >> modified version that was intended to run under I/D on M+. >> I have the

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-31 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/31/20 8:36 AM, Paul Koning wrote: On Mar 30, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctech wrote: On 3/30/20 3:21 PM, Mark Matlock via cctech wrote: Bill, The APL-11 files on DECUS RSX85A are not a complete distribution but a modified version that was intended to run under I/D on

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-31 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/30/20 7:45 PM, Marc Howard via cctalk wrote: The only things I remember about APL were: 1. Square divide symbol formed something that looked like a domino (1 over 1) and was the random number generator. 2. Someone always finds a way to do a moderate sized task in one line of code. The

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-31 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/30/20 7:29 PM, Marc Howard via cctalk wrote: Stupid question time. I last used APL in a class in 1975. Back then you needed a magic terminal and/or a magic Selectric typeball. How does one input or print a program on a PDP-11 with mere mortal equipment? Thanks, Take a look at Chapter

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/30/20 3:21 PM, Mark Matlock via cctech wrote: Bill, The APL-11 files on DECUS RSX85A are not a complete distribution but a modified version that was intended to run under I/D on M+. I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I will make it available at

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-30 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
The only things I remember about APL were: 1. Square divide symbol formed something that looked like a domino (1 over 1) and was the random number generator. 2. Someone always finds a way to do a moderate sized task in one line of code. The ultimate obfuscated code contest. Marc On Mon, Mar

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-30 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
Stupid question time. I last used APL in a class in 1975. Back then you needed a magic terminal and/or a magic Selectric typeball. How does one input or print a program on a PDP-11 with mere mortal equipment? Thanks, Marc Howard On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:07 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk <

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-30 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 3/30/2020 6:29 PM, Marc Howard wrote: Stupid question time.  I last used APL in a class in 1975.  Back then you needed a magic terminal and/or a magic Selectric typeball.  How does one input or print a program on a PDP-11 with mere mortal equipment? Thanks, Marc Howard On Mon, Mar 30,

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-30 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 3/30/2020 1:37 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk wrote: Bill, I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I will make it available at http://www.rsx11m.com/apl11.zip Once you mount the disk image with Simh, the are two ready to run task