> On July 16, 2020 at 1:57 AM Tomasz Rola wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 02:30:37PM -0400, Phil Budne via cctalk wrote:> I
> can't make ANY assertions about version or pedigree of the files(which came
> to me in 1981 when I was using a PDP-10), but they APPEARto be from Ron Cain
>
On 7/15/2020 11:57 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 02:30:37PM -0400, Phil Budne via cctalk wrote:
I can't make ANY assertions about version or pedigree of the files
(which came to me in 1981 when I was using a PDP-10), but they APPEAR
to be from Ron Cain himself,
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 02:30:37PM -0400, Phil Budne via cctalk wrote:
> I can't make ANY assertions about version or pedigree of the files
> (which came to me in 1981 when I was using a PDP-10), but they APPEAR
> to be from Ron Cain himself, from SRI-KL (TOPS-20):
>
>
Yes, I spent a good amount of my time at CMU in the late 70's re-
writing the TOPS-10 version of that compiler with a new P-Code
definition so that the target code could be run efficiently on small
machines. I did the original work to target the PDP-11s on C.MMP.
I still have the compiler
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> The term "p-code" comes from the 1973 Pascal-P version of UCSD Pascal.
>
"p-code" does come from Pascal-P, but Pascal-P wasn't a version of UCSD
Pascal. Pascal-P was developed on the CDC 6600 in 1972.
UCSD
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:37 AM dwight via cctalk
wrote:
> I'm curious as to where the term P-code came from and what defined it.
>
There's no formal definition of "p-code". Although other similar
"bytecodes" existed before, the term "p-code" or "pcode" came from the
earliest implementations of
On 7/14/20 8:37 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
> I'm curious as to where the term P-code came from and what defined it.
> Dwight
The term "p-code" comes from the 1973 Pascal-P version of UCSD Pascal.
There is disagreement as to what the "p" stands for--"portable" or "pseudo".
In any case, the
> On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 2020-07-14 11:37 a.m., dwight via cctalk wrote:
>> I'm curious as to where the term P-code came from and what defined it.
>> Dwight
>>
>
> The first thing that comes to mind is UCSD P-system, but some people
> probably
code".
--Toby
>
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> Subject: Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?
>
> On 14/07/2020 01:14, Grant Taylor via cctech wrote:
>> On 7/13/20 1:06
I'm curious as to where the term P-code came from and what defined it.
Dwight
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Subject: Re: Small C ver 1.00 source?
On 14/07/2020 01:14, Grant
On 14/07/2020 01:14, Grant Taylor via cctech wrote:
On 7/13/20 1:06 PM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where it should go for
safekeeping?
Some combination of Internet Archive, BitKeepers, and TUHS would be my
minimum recommendation.
As you say, it's
On 7/13/2020 6:14 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 7/13/20 1:06 PM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where it should go for
safekeeping?
Some combination of Internet Archive, BitKeepers, and TUHS would be my
minimum recommendation.
As you say, it's
On 7/13/20 1:06 PM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where it should go for
safekeeping?
Some combination of Internet Archive, BitKeepers, and TUHS would be my
minimum recommendation.
As you say, it's small. It wouldn't be hard to hold on to.
--
Grant.
> On July 13, 2020 at 3:38 PM ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 7/13/2020 1:20 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:> It's interesting I didn't
> find that one. There are various others on Github but I didn't > see that
> one. I will do a file comparison between that one and the one Phil provided.
> >
On 7/13/2020 1:20 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
It's interesting I didn't find that one. There are various others on Github but I
didn't > see that one. I will do a file comparison between that one and the
one Phil provided.
Thanks,
Will
I have modified copy for the IBM PC, by CAPROCK
> On July 13, 2020 at 2:13 PM Chuck Guzis via cctech
> wrote:
>
> On 7/13/20 11:59 AM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote:
> > Thanks. I found the one(s) on Simtel and they weren't the right ones. I
> > "think" the 1.1 that is on there is for the IBM PC (8088) or maybe the
> > Z-80. In any case, I
On 7/13/20 11:59 AM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote:
> Thanks. I found the one(s) on Simtel and they weren't the right ones. I
> "think" the 1.1 that is on there is for the IBM PC (8088) or maybe the Z-80.
> In any case, I think it's been found.
>
The github one:
> On July 13, 2020 at 1:30 PM Phil Budne wrote:
>
> I can't make ANY assertions about version or pedigree of the files(which came
> to me in 1981 when I was using a PDP-10), but they APPEARto be from Ron Cain
> himself, from SRI-KL (TOPS-20):
> ftp://ftp.ultimate.com/pdp10/c80.tar.gz
> Which
> On July 13, 2020 at 1:17 PM Chuck Guzis via cctech
> wrote:
>
> On 7/13/20 10:07 AM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote:
> > Unfortunately, no. That was one of the first places I looked. They have the
> > 2.1 version from the Small C handbook (James Hendrix) and some other
> > derivatives, but not
All I've been able to find is the source for 1.1 on github, which was
laboriously reconstructed from an OCR of the original article.
--Chuck
I can't make ANY assertions about version or pedigree of the files
(which came to me in 1981 when I was using a PDP-10), but they APPEAR
to be from Ron Cain himself, from SRI-KL (TOPS-20):
ftp://ftp.ultimate.com/pdp10/c80.tar.gz
Which contains runtime files from November 1979, and compiler files
> On July 13, 2020 at 10:57 AM Chuck Guzis via cctech
> wrote:
>
> On 7/13/20 5:22 AM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote:> I'm trying to find source
> files for the very first, original, ver 1.00(?) small C compiler. I have the
> DDJ issue with the printed source (minus the assembly language
On 7/13/20 10:07 AM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote:
> Unfortunately, no. That was one of the first places I looked. They have the
> 2.1 version from the Small C handbook (James Hendrix) and some other
> derivatives, but not the original 8080 version 1.0.
>
> Thanks,
> Will
SIMTEL20 claims to
On 7/13/20 5:22 AM, Will Cooke via cctech wrote:
> I'm trying to find source files for the very first, original, ver 1.00(?)
> small C compiler. I have the DDJ issue with the printed source (minus the
> assembly language runtime libs.) I have found all sorts of derivative works,
> but I
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