Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-15 Thread Richard Loken
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: How do I respond to tape mount requests on the same console where I'm running BACKUP? When I get the request asking whether to create a new tape volume, it doesn't seem to respond to terminal input. First, initialize all the tapes you might need using

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 15, 2015, at 09:50 , Richard Loken richar...@admin.athabascau.ca wrote: You need to read a little tome entitled Mastering VMS by David W. Byron or maybe The VMS User's Manual that came with VAX/VMS Version 5. I'll look for those. Thanks! ANd the /NOASSIST switch worked for me. I

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-15 Thread Richard Loken
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way a task can be suspended in UNIX with ^Z? There are several: $ submit /queue=sys$batch /noprint

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-14 Thread Peter Coghlan
Thanks! I'll look up all of those commands to understand them better. ^Y looks familiar. I think this is the second time I have learned about it. :) On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:40, Jerry Weiss j...@ieee.org wrote: If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-14 Thread Mark J. Blair
I'm still fumbling around with the multi-tape backup of the R80 drive and haven't quite gotten it working yet. But I've made some other good progress! That RL02 pack labeled VMS53RL02SYS does contain a working VMS 5.3 installation. I backed it up to tape while booted from the R80, then did a

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-14 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 14, 2015, at 02:36, Peter Coghlan cct...@beyondthepale.ie wrote: Another way is to log on a second time using a terminal other than the console, issue reply/enable and then reply to the messages you receive there. I'll eventually hook up more serial lines, but at the moment the

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-14 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-06-14 19:25, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Jun 14, 2015, at 10:01, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: If the connector on the DELUA board is a normal Berg-type header (and I think it is) then maybe you could use a piece of (twist-n-flat?) ribbon cable to make an extension that

RE: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-14 Thread tony duell
Ok, next puzzle is figuring out how to route the cable between the DELUA and the bulkhead panel. I removed it because it kept getting tangled when rolling the CPU chassis in and out. The cable clamps under the cabinet deal with flat cables much better than round ones, so I'll need to

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-14 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 14, 2015, at 10:01, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: If the connector on the DELUA board is a normal Berg-type header (and I think it is) then maybe you could use a piece of (twist-n-flat?) ribbon cable to make an extension that could be routed through the cable pan

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-13 Thread Jerry Weiss
If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I believe you can do the following ^Y $spawn $ $reply/enable=all initialize additional tapes as needed (prior tape should have rewound…) mount tape $reply/to=MESSAGEID $exit $continue Jerry Weiss WB9MRI

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-13 Thread Glen Slick
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way a task can be suspended in UNIX with ^Z? I'm no expert, but I think you can

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-13 Thread Mark J. Blair
Thanks! I will try that out. On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:01, Glen Slick glen.sl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-13 Thread Mark J. Blair
Thanks! I'll look up all of those commands to understand them better. ^Y looks familiar. I think this is the second time I have learned about it. :) On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:40, Jerry Weiss j...@ieee.org wrote: If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I believe

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-13 Thread Peter Coghlan
I'm having trouble with the password reset procedure (but will resolve it by the end of this message). When I run AUTHORIZE, I get this: [snip] $ set noon set noon $ spawn /nowait sys$system:startup.com spawn /nowait sys$system:startup.com %DCL-S-SPAWNED, process SYSTEM_1 spawned $

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-13 Thread Mark J. Blair
I'm having trouble with the password reset procedure (but will resolve it by the end of this message). When I run AUTHORIZE, I get this: $ run authorize run authorize %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SECURESHRP -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file PIKE$DQA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SECURESHRP.EXE;2

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-13 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 13, 2015, at 14:29, Peter Coghlan cct...@beyondthepale.ie wrote: Did I say that? I meant: $ spawn /nowait @sys$system:startup.com (sorry) Aha! Now I understand. Ok, I have the SYSTEM password reset, and the license pak installed. Next task is to perform backups. First attempt

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-12 Thread Peter Coghlan
Using a version 58 console tape image provided to me by one list member, and massaged into a usable state by another list member, I just booted OpenVMS 7.3 off the R80 drive on my VAX-11/730 for the first time since buying the machine. Woohoo! Excellent! For some reason, I was unable to

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-12 Thread Mark J. Blair
I don't remember exactly what I have, but the binders that came with my system might include an R80 manual (to be scanned, of course!). -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-12 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 12, 2015, at 07:57, Antonio Carlini arcarl...@iee.org wrote: Doesn't control-P on the console halt the machine on a VAX-11/730? It brings up the console prompt, but the (H)alt command just prints the PC rather than triggering a halt on the 725/730. Next time I work on the system

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

2015-06-12 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 12, 2015, at 04:01, Peter Coghlan cct...@beyondthepale.ie wrote: If the machine just sits there indefinately after loading the MSCP disk server, you probably don't have enough cluster votes to proceed and the best thing to do is perform a conversational boot which usually involves

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

2015-06-09 Thread Steven M Jones
On 06/07/2015 10:02 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: And... All diagnostics pass! Woohoo! Great to hear, well done Mark! I hope one of these days soon I'll join you - my 730 was able to boot the last time I powered it up in the early 90s, but I have no idea what I'll find when I finally amass the

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

2015-06-09 Thread Mike Ross
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: I finally got the excellent AK6DN tu58em emulator working as my VAX-11/730's console drive, as discussed on VCF. Could you throw me a link to that please? I have a 730 I'm going to have to have a hack at at some point... Mike

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

2015-06-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 8, 2015, at 07:05, Mike Ross tmfdm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: I finally got the excellent AK6DN tu58em emulator working as my VAX-11/730's console drive, as discussed on VCF. Could you throw me a link to that please? I

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

2015-06-09 Thread Peter Coghlan
Mark J. Blair wrote: Since I can't seem to boot up my R80 or my other RL02 pack (labeled VMS53RL02SYS on top) yet, I've been trying to bring up the VMS 5.3 Standalone Backup tape images I found there. No luck so far. I have never run a VMS Standalone Backup environment before, but I am

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

2015-06-09 Thread Peter Coghlan
The issue that I'm having at the moment is that when I try to boot from either that RL02 pack or the R80, VMB.EXE reports %BOOT-F-Unable to locate BOOT file. I don't know yet whether there's something not-right about the contents of the hard drives, or I need to configure something (?) so

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

2015-06-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-06-09 23:54, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Jun 9, 2015, at 14:43 , Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se wrote: Yes, R5 is more or less used the same on all VAXen, since this is used by VMB, which almost all VAXen use in one form or another. Thank you very much for the R5 details! I presume

VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

2015-06-07 Thread Mark J. Blair
I finally got the excellent AK6DN tu58em emulator working as my VAX-11/730's console drive, as discussed on VCF. The trouble appears to have been a simple timing issue: tu58em includes some time delays which run afoul of the 730 console's very aggressive timeout checking. After patching in a

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

2015-06-07 Thread Mark J. Blair
A couple of folks have clued me in to my mistake: I should have been trying to boot DQ0/1 instead of DU0/1. Now I'm getting disk activity followed by %BOOT-F-Unable to locate BOOT file, which is better! I found 725/730 diagnostics on another tape image, so I'll try running those next. Yay!