Re: Pair of Twiggys

> On 14 Mar 2017, at 23:49 , TeoZ via cctalk wrote: > > Jobs had to get fired for Apple to recall the expansion capabilities of the > Apple II days and start making the Mac II series. Jobs left Apple in 1985 and returned in 1997. The Macintosh II was introduced in 1987;

Re: Pair of Twiggys

This statement is hurting my brain. I was never an Apple (company) user or fan but personally felt the Apple product line was hacker friendly before the Apple II c threatened to void your warranty if opened, then the Mac seemed to follow similar unfriendly EULAS. But then again I wouldn't have

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On 3/14/2017 9:52 PM, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote: And the answer is $32,100.52 (plus $20.95 >shipping) Ugh.. they always get ya on the shipping. Mr. 595 must be pissed off. guess he thought 32000 was a ridiculous enough high number he'd win.

Re: Pair of Twiggys

Original message From: Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: >> >> www.ebay.com/itm/122383386508 >> >> still a few hours to go, hovering at $20K > > >And the answer is $32,100.52 (plus $20.95 >shipping) Ugh.. they always get ya on the shipping.

Re: Univac I memory tank

The mercury also gets dirty from its own oxidization On Mar 14, 2017 5:00 PM, "Ben Sinclair via cctalk" wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > I think it belongs in a museum, actually. Provided they can

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > www.ebay.com/itm/122383386508 > > still a few hours to go, hovering at $20K > And the answer is $32,100.52 (plus $20.95 shipping)

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On 3/14/17 6:23 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > a large portion is documented in “Inventing the Lisa Human Interface,” a > retrospective paper written by a couple of the Lisa folks for ACM’s > Interactions journal about 20 years ago. >

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On Mar 14, 2017, at 1:46 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > >> Although I suppose you might have been talking about the software. I mean, >> without that whole display/windows/menu/mouse thing he copied from Xerox, to >> allow ordinary people to use a computer, where would we

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On 2017-03-14 9:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 3/14/17 5:45 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Judging by the eBay response, it looks like a replica (or counterfeit?) would be far more valuable than a usable substitute. I keep waiting to see how much a Macintosh version of the Twiggy

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On 3/14/17 5:45 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Judging by the eBay response, it looks like a replica (or counterfeit?) would > be far more valuable than a usable > substitute. I keep waiting to see how much a Macintosh version of the Twiggy would sell for. The interface is completely

RE: Pair of Twiggys

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, Brad H wrote: I'm assuming anything can be interfaced to old tech. But if I had Twiggys I do have a Lisa they could go into. Or I'd just sell them and buy something a lot more useful. :) What'd be cool if replicas could be made somehow. I don't know what all goes into a

RE: Pair of Twiggys

I'm assuming anything can be interfaced to old tech. But if I had Twiggys I do have a Lisa they could go into. Or I'd just sell them and buy something a lot more useful. :) What'd be cool if replicas could be made somehow. I don't know what all goes into a disk drive but I imagine it's in

Re: Photography, was Re: Pair of Twiggys

> On Mar 14, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Kyle Owen via cctalk > wrote: > > On Mar 14, 2017 5:24 PM, "Fred Cisin via cctalk" > wrote: > > > Ah, out of touch on that, as well! > "But, you can do ANYTHING with Photoshop!" Yeah. right. > > Want a

Photography, was Re: Pair of Twiggys

On Mar 14, 2017 5:24 PM, "Fred Cisin via cctalk" wrote: Ah, out of touch on that, as well! "But, you can do ANYTHING with Photoshop!" Yeah. right. Want a stabilization processor? Most of a ragged Beseler 45, plus a dichroic head that I never got around to rebuilding

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> > > > I know the Knight TV system at the AI Lab was a very early bit-mapped > display, but I don't know where the idea first appeared. (There were of > course influential earlier display systems, such as the one on SAGE, > althoug > those were of course all stroke-based systems, given the

Re: Pair of Twiggys

Good grief! When did Lisa stuff get so expensive? I just did a search for Apple Lisa on eBay. Am I this out of touch with the hobby? Yes, we are. On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, Zane Healy wrote: LOL, thanks Fred! I’ll freely admit that I’m out of touch, as these days my focus is my photography.

Re: Pair of Twiggys

When people decided Steve Jobs had become a god? Right about the time that whole "computer for the rest of us" started... an unreliable source, who was working in Apple at the time, said that it was being touted "for the unwashed masses, or at least ignorant rich folk". Somebody was smart

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> On Mar 14, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >> Good grief! When did Lisa stuff get so expensive? I just did a search for >> Apple Lisa on eBay. Am I this out of touch with the hobby? > > Yes, we

Re: Univac I memory tank

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I think it belongs in a museum, actually. Provided they can make it work, > of > course! :-) I wonder how many working delay line main memories are left in > the world? > If that's from a Univac I, I'd

Re: Univac I memory tank

> On Mar 14, 2017, at 5:45 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > It is not likely to be made to work, easily. From what I was > told, the mercury ones needed to be rebuilt after some time. > Most likely because the mercury dissolved one of the metals > used in side. > > I

Re: Univac I memory tank

It is not likely to be made to work, easily. From what I was told, the mercury ones needed to be rebuilt after some time. Most likely because the mercury dissolved one of the metals used in side. I can't imagine what that might be and why they continued to have such a problem but that is what

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: Good grief! When did Lisa stuff get so expensive? I just did a search for Apple Lisa on eBay. Am I this out of touch with the hobby? Yes, we are.

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> From: geneb > I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic. :) With a steam-shovel... :-) >> that whole display/windows/menu/mouse thing he copied from Xerox > Fixed that for ya. :) Well, technically, as you probably know, the mouse came from Engelbart (well, his group; I'm

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> From: geneb > I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic. :) With a steam-shovel... :-) >> that whole display/windows/menu/mouse thing he copied from Xerox > Fixed that for ya. :) Well, technically, as you probably know, the mouse came from Engelbart (well, his group; I'm

Re: Pair of Twiggys

When most twiggy media stopped being produced and twiggy drives got thrown into the trash as people upgraded their Lisa 1 to a Lisa 2. corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ > On Mar 14, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk > wrote: > > Good grief! When did Lisa stuff get so

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> On 14 Mar 2017, at 21:31 , Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > > (Every time I hear someone saying marketing people are useless - first up > against the wall, etc - I reply 'No, only bad ones - which is a lot of them. > The very best ones, like Steve Jobs, are worth

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > From: geneb >> When people decided Steve Jobs had become a god? > Right about the time that whole "computer for the rest of us" started... Yes, of course: nobody had thought of a cheap personal computer before him. I'm going to

RE: Pair of Twiggys

From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Noel Chiappa via cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:31 PM Although I suppose you might have been talking about the software. I mean, without that whole

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On 3/14/17 1:31 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > does the CHM have a Datapoint 2200? http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/X1621.99A

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> From: geneb >> When people decided Steve Jobs had become a god? > Right about the time that whole "computer for the rest of us" started... Yes, of course: nobody had thought of a cheap personal computer before him. (Which reminds me, does the CHM have a Datapoint 2200? If not, we

Re: Looking to re-home some NeXT hardware

Hi CHris -We wanted one cleaner! for the exterior view. also 2 are good. one can be showed set up and another one for people to peek inside. OK did that with pair of Altairs which due to conditions worked out well had pristine looking Altair with replaced

Re: Pair of Twiggys

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > From: Zane Healy > Good grief! When did Lisa stuff get so expensive? When people decided Steve Jobs had become a god? Right about the time that whole "computer for the rest of us" started... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> From: Zane Healy > Good grief! When did Lisa stuff get so expensive? When people decided Steve Jobs had become a god? Noel

Re: Looking to re-home some NeXT hardware

On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:26 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote: > > OK anyone else have a cube out there that is cosmetically decent? does > not need to be internally complete? > > Ours is a bit of a beater for the display What’s wrong with yours that you can’t clean it up for a

Re: NeXT in Toronto/Canada - was Re: Looking to re-home some NeXT hardware

On Mar 8, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Mouse via cctalk wrote: > >> I'm also a Cube owner in Toronto. Maybe we should start a local >> collector's / user's group :D > >> Any others care to speak up? > > I'm in Ottawa. I've got a - very small! - collection of NeXT hardware. > A

Re: Pair of Twiggys

Good grief! When did Lisa stuff get so expensive? I just did a search for Apple Lisa on eBay. Am I this out of touch with the hobby? Zane > On Mar 14, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > www.ebay.com/itm/122383386508 > > still a few hours to go,

Re: Univac I memory tank

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > its been pulled > > It's still there when I click on the link, five days to go. Boy howdy, this would be a headache to get shipped! Even if the mercury is gone, there are almost certain to be

Re: Univac I memory tank

its been pulled On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > What scares me the most is that there are already 4 bids on it. > > Zane > > > > > > On Mar 14, 2017, at 11:16 AM, dwight via cctalk > wrote: > > > > Cool. I need on

Re: Univac I memory tank

What scares me the most is that there are already 4 bids on it. Zane > On Mar 14, 2017, at 11:16 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > Cool. I need on of those. > > Dwight > > > > From: cctalk on behalf of

Re: Univac I memory tank

Cool. I need on of those. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:20:00 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Univac I memory tank

RE: Optical Mouse Pads

From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Systems Glitch via cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:47 PM To: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk Subject: Re: Optical Mouse Pads Bill, I'd be interested in one compatible

Re: Optical Mouse Pads

Bill, I'd be interested in one compatible with Sun 5 mice -- right now I use a printed paper mousepad when I get out my Sun boxen. If no one else is interested, I'd like one or two of them, and if they're otherwise going in the trash, I know a few people I could give them to. Does $5 each +

Pair of Twiggys

www.ebay.com/itm/122383386508 still a few hours to go, hovering at $20K

Univac I memory tank

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162428766985 Asked if the mercury was still in it. They ignored me.

Re: VT52 keyboard question

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 7:20 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > >> On Mar 13, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> ... >> My guess is that the VT52, VT55, VT05 and LA30 are identical. > > No, fortunately not. The LA30 was

Optical Mouse Pads

I am continuing the clean out of my vast collection of things I no longer have a need for. (Yes, everything you see me offer here was at one time used by me in real life!) I have three different model Optical Mouse Pads. NDE400306-003F NCW 402105-003 NDD 402105-003A Over time I have had

Re: sourcing Atmel 29Cxxx series flash roms

What about the package? Is it a DIP or one of the other three possible packages. DIPs are going out of style. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of allison via cctalk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 10:02:05 AM

Re: VT52 keyboard question

> On Mar 13, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > My guess is that the VT52, VT55, VT05 and LA30 are identical. No, fortunately not. The LA30 was notorious for having a very bad and very unreliable keyboard. Some GT40s had that same keyboard

Re: VT52 keyboard question

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Marc Howard via cctech wrote: > Hi, > > The "2" key on my VT52 is very hard to use. You've gotta pound it and you > might get 2 "2"s for your trouble. > > I assume that the keyboard switch is made of unobtanium (If you know of a >

Re: HP 21MX (2105) needs good home

The 21mx has found a new home.

Re: VT52 keyboard question

> On Mar 13, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Marc Howard via cctech > wrote: > > Hi, > > The "2" key on my VT52 is very hard to use. You've gotta pound it and you > might get 2 "2"s for your trouble. > > I assume that the keyboard switch is made of unobtanium (If you know of a >

Re: VT52 keyboard question

Mark, Do you have a picture of what's underneath the key cap? I think those are Hi-Tek switches underneath. I believe they are similar to the VT-100 keyboard shown here: https://deskthority.net/wiki/DEC_VT100 You can pull the key cap off as long as you do it straight up. Find out what kind of

Re: VT52 keyboard question

> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Marc Howard via cctech < > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The "2" key on my VT52 is very hard to use. You've gotta pound it and you >> might get 2 "2"s for your trouble. I've a similar key on my VT52 -- will be diving in there sometime soon to

Re: Looking for Apollo Workstations for TV show

Vintage Computer Federation sometimes rents out systems for prop use. When we do, we require the renter to sign an equipment handling contract. It stipulates what they must/must not do.

Re: VT52 keyboard question

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Marc Howard via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi, > > The "2" key on my VT52 is very hard to use. You've gotta pound it and you > might get 2 "2"s for your trouble. > > I assume that the keyboard switch is made of unobtanium (If you know of a >

Re: Looking for Apollo Workstations for TV show

On 13 March 2017 at 19:10, Oldcomputers via cctalk wrote: Get your systems on TV! Great show; glad to see that they are sourcing proper kit as well.

RE: VT52 keyboard question

Van: Marc Howard via cctech Verzonden: maandag 13 maart 2017 21:45 Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only Onderwerp: VT52 keyboard question Hi, The "2" key on my VT52 is very hard to use. You've gotta pound it and you might

VT52 keyboard question

Hi, The "2" key on my VT52 is very hard to use. You've gotta pound it and you might get 2 "2"s for your trouble. I assume that the keyboard switch is made of unobtanium (If you know of a substitute chime in) so I'm thinking of swapping it for the "COPY" key which I guess is useless unless you