Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
gh battery life for a weekend of use without a charge. The Psion keyboard at least lives on and is still relevant today. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn:

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
om/watch?v=dlv1naXDYHs Demo of the radically different, 32-bit, RISC-based, Psion 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nEBnDB79XA Dropped the dual proprietary storage slots, replaced with 1 standard CF slot. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/H

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
glamour." (Charles Stross, /The Fuller Memorandum/) They're very shiny. They do a lot. But I had a better *phone* and a better *PDA* 20 years ago. The whole is much less than the sum of its parts. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Pl

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
nd for them to get a whole contact instantly by wireless was deeply impressive to them. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-08788

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
t-in feature of the Psion range of PDAs. The address book app could dial any number in the address book, merely by holding it up to the phone mouthpiece. It blew people's minds at the time (very early 1990s). -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk -

Reddist offer: PDP-11/34a available for free in the Coachella Valley

2019-05-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/bunk5m/pdp1134a_available_for_free_in_the_coachella/ -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK

Modern BLISS compiler

2019-05-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
This just came up on Fess Bouc. I did not know that it existed. It's an LLVM-backed modern compiler for BLISS. https://madisongh.github.io/blissc/ -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-05-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
is nothing but false positives. FWIW, I had no clue either. I was hoping to work it out from context. No joy so far. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamprove

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-05-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ou can see Puma's logo in some of the photos and it was mentioned in the eBay ad. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-08788

Re: OT: Gaming Gear

2019-05-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
de.com/comic/2008/03/12/the-case-of-texas-vs.-kryolord A bit of the story: https://www.engadget.com/2008/03/13/district-attorney-on-trial-for-building-monster-gaming-rig-with/ -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
do it again? Have you decided to change? Look, *I* am someone who has, justly, been told off for being rude and dismissive here. I very much fear that I have caused people to quit the list, and I bitterly regret that. But I have tried hard to *learn* from that, and I do not want to do it again. Wherea

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
AFAICS. Please stop digging that hole you're in. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I have _never_ heard that term and have no idea what it means. Don't be so glib. It looks bad on anyone. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +4

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 12:02, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote: > > I just run PUTR under DosBox on a modern PC. A pain but... easier. Can that read/write physical media? -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus

Re: Possible PUTR bug?

2019-05-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ut if that's a restriction then fair enough. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: Bug in PUTR?

2019-05-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ed partition, format it with FAT16; then you'll have hard disk space you can write from DOS. * install NTFS drivers on your DOS boot disk. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lpr

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 10:41, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Very nice photos although I am confused by some. Some of them appear to > be moving but a lot of stuff stays still. What is happening?? Please bottom-post on the list. It looks to me like an Apple "live photo"

Re: SIMH question

2019-04-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
it. It works well, the ISO is a free download from Microsoft, and it's perfectly usable without activation. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven

The story of... PDP-1

2019-04-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
DEC archival docs tell the story of the genesis of the PDP-1: https://gordonbell.azurewebsites.net/digital/timeline/pdp-1story.htm -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven

Re: Byte Magazine

2019-03-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
wers fine. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: VCF/PNW Exhibit & Trip Report - The Old Calculator Museum

2019-03-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 22:57, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: > > So, that's my "trip report". Great reading. Thanks for that! -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr:

Re: Opening old DEC files

2019-03-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
as Word 95 or Word 6 for NT, but they use an older file-format modern WPs can't import. A late version of WordPerfect for DOS *might* do it... I have WP6.2 for DOS running on PC DOS 7.1 and it runs fine on modern hardware. I'm not confident, though. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamprov

Re: Old Macs available

2019-03-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
rnational shipping. You do not specify where you are; I am in Czechia. However I have an SE/30 and I don't need 2... -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liam

Re: Mystery old computer & terminals on eBay UK

2019-02-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 12:24, Jonathan Katz wrote: > > Some google shows BCL=Business Computers Limited (potentially) Foolishly I didn't read the comments first. It's one of these: http://www.ps8computing.co.uk/bcl.html -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email

Mystery old computer & terminals on eBay UK

2019-02-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I don't recognise this, but I'm no expert. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113665872765 -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR

Re: Ultimate FDC? (Was: IBM 6360 - Filesystem(ish) info?

2019-02-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
-disk-controller disks (e.g. Mac 400/800 kB and Amiga disks) that were written in fairly standard drives. Step 4 is when you get to all the non-hard-sectored drives and so on... -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@g

Re: OT: Phone museum seeks new owner

2019-02-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
y I click a link and get a blanket "sorry, no" message. Also applies to lots of Youtube videos: I just get a "video unavailable" message. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Fac

Re: OT: Phone museum seeks new owner

2019-02-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
That was meant to say... Or: https://www.chicagotribune.com/ -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram

Re: HDDs (Was: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
. . > > > Heard about the NSA Utah Data Center? > https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/ > That's a LottaBytes! O_o Reminds me... I should buy a few more tibs, consolidate and rearrange some stuff. I wonder why megs and gigs caught on, but there's no common shorthand for terab

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ne capacity comparator thing. You'd need a pile of those Seagate drives the size of a _space shuttle_ to hold a terabyte. https://liam-on-linux.livejournal.com/53353.html -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Tw

Re: Speaking of sounds made by machines

2019-02-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
y default. Possibly because then the disk wouldn't boot on different IDE hardware -- bear in mind this was before Windows activation, so an install could just be duped onto another machine. But if the other machine didn't have Triton chipset, it wouldn't boot. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://abou

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ok them, I would not use _any_brand of disk. Everyone who's been around a bit has a horror story and the intersection in the Venn diagram, while small, excludes all vendors ever. I've never seen any one make that is significantly worse than any other. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.m

Re: a timer for the PC - screen tme for the kids

2019-02-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
te an analog monitor signal. Amazing little gadget. I have a PCB and plan to try to build one. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
IX, Linux and IBM i. Silly name, though. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: a timer for the PC - screen tme for the kids

2019-02-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
.laptopmag.com/articles/set-time-limits-windows-10 -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: a timer for the PC - screen tme for the kids

2019-02-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
fore I re-invent the wheel? I believe something like it is a built-in feature of Win10. But of course that almost certainly means there are well-documented hacks and workarounds. Getting built-in is the reason that $DAYJOB-3 killed its kid-monitoring-and-restricting product line. -- Liam Proven

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ow to apply the impact: $495 110 years old, and still apt. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/03/06/tap/ I first encountered it in the form of one of the AI Koans. I guess these are probably familiar to all here, but in case: http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~wiseman/humor/ai-koans.html -- Liam

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Gmail bottom-quotes just fine. I'm using the web interface right now. Just hit Ctrl-A, trim as needed and move the cursor. Yes, it's a pain on mobile, so I try not to answer on mobiles! -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro.

Re: Vintage-computing relevant IOBCC entry

2019-01-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
unning NetBSD 8 with gcc 5.5.0 :) > > https://www.ioccc.org/1984/mullender/hint.html As is right, proper, faintly alarming, and additionally justifies one of the core plot ideas of Vernor Vinge's novel /A Deepness in the Sky/. :-D -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro

Enjoyable blog post about a retro writing tool: the Amstrad NC100

2019-01-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
https://tantobieinternettattler.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-amstrad-nc100-portable-perfection.html I have one of these myself -- my piece about it (and some its kin) is here... https://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2011/11/10/portable_writing_tool/ -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me

Re: Vintage-computing relevant IOBCC entry

2019-01-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
s, that's right, a PDP-11 emulator for the PDP-7 -- and on that, it runs Unix v6, on which it can run the first ever obfuscated C contest winner. I found it quite astonishing. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com T

Re: Bogus "account hacked" message

2019-01-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
eeling slightly depressed too. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven

Vintage-computing relevant IOBCC entry

2019-01-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
/* You are not expected to understand this. */ https://www.ioccc.org/2018/mills/hint.html -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939

Re: VueSCAN

2019-01-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ew pay any attention to any technology without an interesting name. Well, quite. > And of those who do and the rest, never the twain shall meet. I think we've all missed that twain now. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro

Re: Want/Available list

2019-01-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
se Anglophones mostly can't pronounce /b/ followed by /h/, if you ask for "bindi baji" instead of "bhindi bhaji" you do not get a forehead jewel shaped like an okra pod. So you could say "I'm going down t'bunker" and to the untrained ear it would sound like "

Re: Want/Available list

2019-01-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ot understand complexities such as filtering, rules, quoting, signatures etc. For them, web fora are easier. Personally, I find web fora almost totally unusable and treat them as a last resort. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@

Re: VueSCAN

2019-01-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
are of what that acronym means, yes? -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 18:52, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/19/2018 10:45 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > 80186? > > I really thought it was 8x86 where the x was 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4. :-o No no, never. But there was the i860 and i960 as well, remember. And the

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
; the 8086 (or was it 8088, which is still in the 8x86 family) and the > Pentium. They didn't. 8088, 8086, 80286, 80386DX, then 80386SX, 80486, Pentium. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
lable -- and I did sell everything I possibly could. 5¼" HD floppy drives -- if Fred will spare me, PC-AT style 1.2 MB drives -- fetched $30--$40 each, and I had at least half a dozen of 'em. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangou

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ows era, and for them, period kit is the best way to play them. I personally think it's barking but then I am not much of a gamer. > Are you feeling old yet? Nah, I'm used to it. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: l

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
t's a "true" PS/2 with MCA. I hope to get an old version of OS/2 2 or 3 going on mine some time. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +4

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
; floppy drives. So yes, there is a little bit of demand, I reckon. Not highly commercial, though. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
that it was no longer anything to do with its actual name. So conflating 3 entirely unrelated Ems together, and the facetious ETLA-style *fourth* Em, was, ISTM, a facetious reference to this. It seemed like a laudable goal at the time. Now, we all have them, and we've totally squandered that power. It is

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
c/Sun-Microsystems-Inc FWIW, no pic for me in that article. But yes, I skim-read the wikipedia page and got the wrong impression. I've already confessed and apologised in this thread. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus:

Re: SunOS 2.4 Exploit

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
It's a bit late, isn't it? On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 19:30, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote: -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
on further reading, e.g. http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/computer-graphics-music-and-art/15/218/615 , only narrowly. I think I scanned the Wikipedia article too quickly this morning... -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpr

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ine. I didn't know that. That alone means that it's not really what I think of when I think of a Sun workstation: no windowing system means that for me it's not really a workstation. But as a single-user Unix machine, yes, it unquestionably qualifies, and I need to redefine my terms and my thinking a little...

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
efinition of a Sun workstation is, if it excludes a 680x0 machine with Unix and a big monochome bitmap display... -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven

Fwd: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I thought folk might enjoy this short-ish (~12min) Youtube video showing startup of arguably the first ever Sun workstation, from a contemporaneous SunOS... I did. Permission obtained before x-posting, naturally. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-12-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ww.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?35593-Windows-3-0-VGA-color-driver-for-8088-XT -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsA

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-12-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
te of AAD > and AAM instructions actually being an immediate argument that could have > a value different from 10, have become standardised at one point. I know, and was surprised that, v86 mode isn't supported in x86-64. This caused major problems for the developers of DOSEMU. -- Liam P

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
4, plus embedded objects, graphics. I'm thinking PDF or the like as my model. Try to collapse all these into one and you're doomed. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
know how to do this. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ually weaknesses at all but indeed strengths for a lot of its use-cases. Saying that, I'd really like to read more about this project. It looks like it peripherally intersects with one of my own big ones. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 23:39, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 03:44, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > If it's in Roman, Cyrillic, or Greek, they're alphabets, so it's a letter. > > > Correct, Latin, Greek, and Cyrillic are alphabets, so eac

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
quot;, "old mail", "programs do", and "adapt to". *And* #4 _You_ appear to have some "very old mail program" (to use your own phrase) because it is screwing up your posting _and_ screwing up double spaces. So it is you causing the problems here, I'm sorry to say.

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
íkova, but it does > look like things came through just like you describe. (They even made > it through my shell script that I use to re-flow text in replies.) Good! -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com T

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
t; update broke the Correct-Identity add-on. :-( Well yes. I believe Mr Corlett here rejects all mail from gmail.com -- except mine... ;-) -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lprov

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 18:54, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > > Turn off trashing mails with Unicode in Subject and see if this solves > a problem? *Loud laughter in the office* Well _played_, sir! -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Go

Re: What is this?

2018-11-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
end attachments to the list. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ne space is enough. Look, we haven't even been able to get him to quote correctly, so I suspect changing his typing habits is right out! -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven -

Re: [EXTERNAL] VCF PNW 2019: Exhibitors needed!

2018-11-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
r and heavy black-rimmed spectacles. So the first time that I used an emulated VAX over a serial line from a real DEC terminal, I was struck by how the experience was 100% faithful to the original. P.S. Please bottom-post, will you? -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lp

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 17:12, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > Well, how DID they make panels? Letraset? :-) -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liampro

Re: Did anyone see Vintage Tech Hunters on Discovery Canada yet?

2018-11-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 18:18, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > In my experience, games written for CGA and 80286 do not do well on modern > equipment. This is why DOSBox exists. https://www.dosbox.com/ It's a DOS PC emulator for modern PCs, mainly for playing old games. -- Li

Re: modern stuff

2018-10-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
enamed after the CPU -- "NT"... https://www.itprotoday.com/windows-server/windows-server-2003-road-gold-part-one-early-years -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven

Re: SUN keyboard for grabs

2018-10-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ollectors. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com witter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: Object-oriented OS [was: Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen]

2018-10-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
have swallowed > that. Right, then go learn a bit about it. You need that to understand this subject properly, I submit. > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 04:14:34PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: > Very true, but if someone promises and does not deliver, who is he? [1] A marketing person? [2] Behav

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
benefits or improvements. It's just a bit of a different spin on GNOME 3, making it slightly more Mac-like, without being Mac-like enough to interest me. :-) -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
e guess -- do you also worry about chemtrails and fluoride in the water? -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
orks fine on Windows, and there's no X.11 in Windows. Jim, you seem awfully convinced of this stuff, but as others are telling you, you have it almost all wrong. :-( -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
rmity" and the way it "feels more integrated" in ways that are completely imperceptible to Linux folk. Since my formative IT experiences were outside of the Unix world -- CP/M, VAX/VMS, Acorn RISC OS and finally OS/2 -- I come from a different tradition and I'm still not really comfor

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
ml https://siliconangle.com/2017/09/05/oracle-layoffs-signal-end-life-sparc-solaris-products/ https://www.itprotoday.com/software-development/new-oracle-layoffs-probably-signal-end-line-solaris -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
fringement of the > same laws."-HHGTTG Speaking as a former president of the official Douglas Adams fanclub, I am deeply honoured by the comparison. :-D -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twi

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:05, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 10/23/2018 10:47 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > This may be an unfortunate mismatch of English idioms. > > Fair. > > > "Out there", to me, means "current, available/on sale/in use

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:12, ben wrote: > > On 10/23/2018 4:33 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 21:19, ben via cctalk wrote: > > > >> Try and find a printed page size PDF > >> reader, or one a tad smaller. Reading a PDF on a KINDLE DOES

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
is how I have been experimentally assembling GNUstep desktops for years now. My favourite minimalist no "desktop" /per se/ distro is Crunchbang -- you might want to look at BunsenLabs or Crunchbang++. Another comparable option is Tiny Core Linux, but I haven't tried it myself. -- Liam Proven

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
NOME 3 to be frustrating to the level of shouting incoherently at my computer within half an hour. Ditto KDE (any version >1.x). Others like them. Chacun à son goût. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitt

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 17:49, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 10/23/2018 04:41 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > It's pointless to compare environments from _before_ Win95 as a way of > > saying that Win95 didn't influence them! > > Your statement that I replied to is: >

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
t want to see people trying to do something different... -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
; anyone outside Apple and its partners to create native apps. I think you should read this: https://blog.fawny.org/2018/10/22/hardtouse/ -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 22:54, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 10/22/2018 08:14 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > *Every* Unix desktop out there draws on Win95. > > Nope. That's simply not true. > > The following three vast families of window managers /

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
d example of a GUI with no icons. It is text-based -- a TUI -- but graphical. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_(operating_system) -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/Linke

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
dle-DX-Wireless-Reader-3G-Global/dp/B002GYWHSQ https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reading-Display-Globally/dp/B0015TG12Q One of the main reasons I got it is that it renders PDFs well and a lot of important computer history books and the like are only readily available as PDFs. -- Liam

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
concept a bit far, while the Lisa > got what would become the modern ubiquitous version of the concept almost > dead on. Did I get this approximately right? I'd say you're pretty much bang-on. > Are there any other GUI desktop metaphors that predates this? Not that I'm aware of.

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 18:58, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: > > Liam Proven wrote: > > > >On the one hand, the cosmetics. *Every* Unix desktop out there draws > >on Win95. > > I take exception to the "*Every*" in Liam's statement above. I think you

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
released that only ran on the PCWs, directly driving their 720*256 res screen in graphics mode or a few in 90*32 text mode. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype

Re: Selling keyboards without the terminal

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
iginal Real Thing™ _far_ better than the modern reproductions. I think he will agree with me. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 -

Re: Selling keyboards without the terminal

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 21:01, ben via cctalk wrote: > Is just me, but is keyboad input geting slower and slower on web stuff, > even the old 110 buad tty gave better response running under a PDP/8. https://danluu.com/input-lag/ Summary: no, it's not just you. -- Liam Proven - Profile:

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
hor/ "BE LIKE A SWAN GRACEFUL BUT FURIOUSLY PADDLING BELOW THE SURFACE" Considering the layers of hacks below the surface, Win9x was amazingly stable and reliable, and used by more people than all iterations of all other GUI OSes of the times up to then put together. It spawned the e

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