Re: Control Data ad: Omega 480 "370 compatible alternative" on eBay

2017-10-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Itel was basically a rebrander. AS/5 was a National Advance system under the covers, and AS/6 was a Hitachi HITAC M180. -- Will On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 10/6/17 5:59 AM, Anthony Bennett via cctalk wrote: >> If this is the

Re: CDC 6600 display character generation

2018-06-07 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> This reminds me of every TV show and movie I've seen where consoles begin > exploding on a space ship during a battle. All of this time, I thought that > was entirely a Hollywood fabrication! Given all the jenky engineering in the tube circuits inside a DD60, I am surprised more of them did

Re: Foonlies

2018-01-31 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> And, if you went to 74S, Fast or 74AS, you could easily match the ECL > 10K performance. Now, there were a bunch of tricks that you could use with > ECL that helped, like wired-OR instead of adding a tri-state buffer. ECL > had a notable advantage in 1970, but as TTL derivatives continued to >

Re: Bendix G-15 [was: Re: VCF PNW 2018: Pictures!]

2018-02-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
I will just leave this link right here... https://www.youtube.com/user/uniservo Thanks... -- Will On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 01:04:38PM -0600, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: >> Wow, even a Bendix G-15 in there

Re: VT100's

2018-09-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I know that one did get built, I had a VT62 a year or two ago. I know of a few VT72s up north (I have seen them). -- Will

Re: VT100's

2018-09-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> 2. It was the first DEC terminal with a detachable keyboard (not counting the > GT-40) and if you needed an extension cord, you could just get a headphone > cord at Radio Shack. The VT27 preceded the VT100, being a VT52 with a detachable keyboard - but there is a good possibility few to none

Re: VT100's

2018-09-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Compared to many of the others available at the time, it seemed to me to be: > > 1. expensive Keep in mind that this is largely irrelevant. Terminals were often used as bargaining chips when large systems were purchased. Salesmen could "throw in" some number of terminals with a system, in

Re: An historical nit about FDDs

2018-07-12 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> So far as near as I can tell the earliest FDDs (IBM 23FD Minnow and Memorex > 650/651) used Step In/Step Out. The IBM 33FD Igar used direct control of the > motor. Someone asked (you?) on one of my Youtube videos for more detail about the 23FD's stepping method, so I made a video covering the

Re: radar history

2018-03-04 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I dunno about these historical accounts. Radar tech history is a real minefield, and my advice is to take any historical accounts or studies that are older than ten or fifteen years old with a grain of salt. Often a big grain. "History is written by the victors" had been very strong with radar

Re: radar history

2018-03-04 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Ordinary magnetrons had indeed been around for a while; they were invented in > 1920. The British invention was the _cavity magnetron_, a quite different > beast; it was kind of a cross between a magnetron and a klystron, with the > best features of each. The cavity magnetron was invented by a

Re: radar history

2018-03-04 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> A very interesting story in this radar history is how the Dutch managed to > rescue the EF50 tube, essential for these early radar receivers, to England > just hours before the Germans invaded holland. This is generally a good article, but has a major flaw or two. One, it describes acorn tubes

Re: radar history

2018-03-04 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> The one described in the RH is a "split anode magnetron". The note on > it says that "frequency stability is not very good:. Yes, but in World War 2 (and a little into the 1950s), split anode magnetrons were used in ECM "jammer" transmitters. > It's my understanding that the allies used the

Re: EF50 was Re: radar history

2018-03-04 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
:> The high frequency power tubes were required for better spacial resolution. My understanding was that major difference between the German radar and allied was that the Germans had a single trace, like a time domain reflectometer. The allies had a rotating image that is similar to what we see on

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-22 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> You've discovered some computer that doesn't ever crash? They used to be called "IBM Midrange". -- Will (don't call them minicomputers!)

Re: Selling keyboards without the terminal

2018-10-20 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
It's Beanie Babies all over again, people. Give it a year or two and the keyboard market will likely crash. Pick them up on the slide down. I bet most will not be gutted, simply due to the general lack of activity of computer people. Just like we are. -- Will (who paid attention to all those IBM

Re: NOVApalooza in 2 weeks - DG Nova - was Re: 70's computers

2018-10-24 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
It just ended. I made a crap video (no people in it) that Bruce needs to screen before I post to Youtube, however, there was a video team that shot an enormous amount of 4K footage. Bruce does not quite know what to do with it, but figured it needed recording. -- Will On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 1:00

Re: i860: Re: modern stuff

2018-10-29 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
AIX was ported in very cut down manner and used on the f960 and h960 routing cards used on the early T3 based NSFnet. F960 was FDDI and H960 was HSSI. Come think of it, I think the v.25 and ether net cards also used i960, just a smaller version. -- Will On Oct 29, 2018 12:13 PM, "alan--- via

Re: i860: Re: modern stuff

2018-11-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> So, what is this i960-based card for? They were the routers. At the core nodes of the network, there would be a big RS/6000s (very early POWER1 types) that would each do about 4-5 high speed interfaces (FDDI, HSSI, and 10base2). Each interface was one of these cards, so each of the big RS/6000s

Re: PDP-8 screws

2018-10-26 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
What is the thread? 6-32? 8-32? -- Will On Oct 26, 2018 8:44 PM, "Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk" wrote: > On 10/26/2018 7:41 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote: > >> On 10/26/2018 7:19 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: >> >>> William said >>> One the original PDP-8 ("Straight 8"), the

PDP-8 screws

2018-10-26 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
One the original PDP-8 ("Straight 8"), the front panel has two aluminum strips on the sides, one on the left and one on the right. Each should have a pair of flathead countersunk screws, likwly Phillips head. Can someone tell me the exact specs, basically thread, length, head, and material of the

Re: A very sad PDP-8/S

2018-11-02 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> - Front panel PCB, > - Case top AND bottom, > - Power supply. > - Some flip-chip slots are empty. Not sure if supposed to be. It is actually not all that sad looking. The blinkenlights board will be hard to find. I might have a power supply. It is likely it never had a top and bottom

Re: i860: Re: modern stuff

2018-11-03 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
; Some of the interfaces cards used in the 6611 where unique to it and >> > never made it to the "standard" RS/6000 line. There was also a PCI >> > version of the Artic 960 but by the time it came along the 6611 was long >> > gone. >> > >> > P

Re: i860: Re: modern stuff

2018-11-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
acks I linked onto nekochan > forums but that site is gone. Wish people would migrate back to Usenet. > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:15 AM William Donzelli via cctalk > wrote: >> >> > So, what is this i960-based card for? >> >> They were the routers. At the co

Re: IBM Xstation 140?

2018-11-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
The 120 also used a 34010 to handle the graphics, I think? It has been a long time... -- Will On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:51 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: > > If I recall correctly the Xstation 120 (the first of them) used an 8086 > (might have been an 80186). The big issue was that you

Re: i860: Re: modern stuff

2018-11-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
t; Some of the interfaces cards used in the 6611 where unique to it and > never made it to the "standard" RS/6000 line. There was also a PCI > version of the Artic 960 but by the time it came along the 6611 was long > gone. > > Paul. > > > On 2018-11-01 1:15 PM, Wi

Re: PDP, Data General & more (TV show Maniac)

2018-11-02 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> There were two versions of the 360/30. The first 1000 units > had that plastic overlay panel, the later 9000 units > apparently had the more traditional 360-style panel with > user-replaceable lamps. > But, I can't find any pictures of one. And at least one dark panel one (currently in

Re: RS6k 7012/320H woes

2018-11-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Getting diagnostics to work would be a really good start. I may have install media and diagnostic disks for the 320H kicking around. > The AIX on the SP2 would have been the same, in fact the hardware on the > SP2 nodes was similar to the regular RS/6000 boxes except the console > was through

Re: ISA sound and video cards, and PCI? AGP?

2018-11-08 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> That being said, I > think anyone under the illusion that there's a worthwhile amount of gold > in a Sound Blaster has been spending too much time huffing mercury fumes. That, or they might actually understand how the scrap industry works. -- Will

Re: ISA sound and video cards, and PCI? AGP?

2018-11-08 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> $7-10 to sort out and carefully handle (vs usual strip for gold recovery), > seems pretty reasonable to me. I'd expect the cost has more to do with > labor than gold being recovered. Yes, probably half of the asking price is the metal, the rest is labor, shipping and handling, and just a plain

Re: ISA sound and video cards, and PCI? AGP?

2018-11-09 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> That's interesting, my local recycler sells boards to me at $1-$3/lb > depending on some notion of scrap metal content, so I'm usually looking at > around $2 per card (untested). I wonder if it's one of those things where > there's a huge amount of regional variation? Age of the boards,

Re: Any News from the Nova @ 50 Event?

2018-11-13 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Any chance someone could write it up? Pending approval and editing, I will release some video footage I took on my Youtube channel, Uniservo. No people, no discussion, just a walkaround of the hardware exhibits. There was real 4K video being shot (terabytes of it!) by professionals, but I do

Re: ROLM 1601 (RuggedNova) 1970 Brochure

2018-11-04 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I know there > is the upcoming Nova event so I thought this would be good timing. You missed it! -- Will

Re: Rayethon Computer AN/FYK9 CMI Store 33

2018-09-24 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
It looks like a Raytheon 706 without the front covers. -- Will On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 2:21 PM Justin Keogh via cctalk wrote: > > Anyone know more about this? So far I have only found references to Rayethon > Computers in old trade mags. > > http://v6y.net/IMG_20180912_170812.jpg > > The rack

Re: CDC transistor boards

2018-12-29 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Statistically, it is more likely to be a 1700 module (a more common machine). The front bracket is missing, which is the easy way to distinguish the two types. -- Will On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 6:10 PM Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > The second one is a 6000 mainframe "cordwood" module. It

Re: CDC transistor boards

2018-12-29 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
I think the Cyber 70s used the later modules (the multilayer and/or IC things). -- Will On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 3:06 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/29/18 10:47 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > > Statistically, it is more likely to be a 1700 module (a more common

Re: CDC transistor boards

2018-12-29 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
c 29, 2018 at 2:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/29/18 10:47 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > > Statistically, it is more likely to be a 1700 module (a more common > > machine). The front bracket is missing, which is the easy way to > > distinguish the tw

Re: off topic - capatob - saratov2 computer Russsian pdp8? HELP

2019-01-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> And then the PDP-11 put the nail in that coffin (and in 1980, there were more > PDP-11's, world-wide, than any other kind of computer). I bet the guys at Zilog might have something to talk to you about. -- Will

Re: off topic - capatob - saratov2 computer Russsian pdp8

2019-01-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> With the advent of wide spread introduction of 16 bit machines the > definition of a byte as an 8 bit unit was accepted because ASCII > supported character sets for multiple languages, before the 8bit > standard there were 6 bit, 7 bit variations of he character sets. > Gee, what were teletypes,

Re: off topic - capatob - saratov2 computer Russsian pdp8? HELP

2019-01-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> - some marketing person made it up You believed them? Have your head examined. > - they were only counting things that were general-purpose (i.e. came with > mass storage and compilers) Conditions, conditions. > - they didn't consider micros as "computers" (many were used in things like >

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
That would be a LOT of pennies of gold. But people on this list do not like to hear this. -- Will On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:57 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > > This hurts my heart: > > HP Gold vintage 1970's high yeld recovery plated ic chips leads w palladium > caps >

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Maybe not the 450 dollars asking, but likely at least 250 dollars for the pile. It is HP - thick plate everywhere, in the ICs, and probably a few other places. Getting E-scrap refined is very expensive to do in small batches. To make it feasible, about a ton of good gold bearing scrap is needed

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Why not offer them a nice pile of money for just that board - make it worth their while to update the auction? -- Will On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 5:34 PM Jay West via cctalk wrote: > > OMG no, that hurts more than just my heart because: That top board on the > stack is a 12922, part of that 3

Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-12 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > > Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it being in > > > Poughkeepsie. > > > Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have another kinda > > > parts Nova 4

Re: Which DEC machine made use of th pre Flip-Chip board?

2018-12-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> The original "Flip Chip" was a packaging failure. It was literally a die > bonded to a PCB > and never went into production. > > I think it is mentioned in "Computer Engineering" > > IBM perfected the techniques to do this later with the development of solder > bumps and > IR reflow. Are you

Re: Origin of 'Straight 8' name

2018-12-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Could be--but I was pointed out that "straight eight" was an automotive > term familiar to the laity that pre-dated DEC by a goodly number of > years. We live in a world dominated by automobile marketing. Some points to ponder: The term Straight-9 is basically never heard when referring to

Re: Which DEC machine made use of th pre Flip-Chip board?

2018-12-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
They use the same R and S numbers, just late revision suffices. I have a machine made with them that sometimes even works. I have a bunch that have had the gold fingers peeled off (don't blame me - I got them this way). -- Will On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:26 PM Al Kossow wrote: > > yea, that was

Re: Documation card readers for sale

2018-12-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
You have forgotten that I am the one that cleaned out Cardamation... -- Will On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 1:02 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:20 AM Ethan Dicks wrote: > > The interesting thing about my M-200 is it has a factory mod... > > A little clarification of

Re: remove bad yelpMATERIAL INGEST. adams associates COMPUTER CHARACTERISTICS QUARTERLY 1963

2018-12-16 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Ed's having word salad for lunch. Again. But the lunch was bad, so he wrote a bad review, but now regrets it. -- Will

Re: Origin of 'Straight 8' name

2018-12-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Or NGram. -- Will On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 1:10 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > > On 12/21/18 10:03 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > "Straight-8" seems to be a fairly modern name coming from collectors > > > > I never heard it called that before then. > > Anyone feel like doing a

Re: Which DEC machine made use of th pre Flip-Chip board?

2018-12-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> AFAIK, the first ICs (in the modern sense) on FLIP CHIPS were on M-series. I think the W706 and W707 predated the M series by a hair, using commercial MRTL (I think). These were the early TTY receiver/transmitter cards. -- Will

Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-11 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart fairly easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack. -- Will On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: > > I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't have > space for the desk

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-27 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I have long wondered if there are computer languages that aren't rooted > in English / ASCII. I feel like it's rather pompous to assume that all > programming languages are rooted in English / ASCII. I would hope that > there are programming languages that are more specific to the region of >

Re: IBM in TX

2019-01-11 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Looks like the "Mainframe" is an IBM Series/1 which is not a Mainframe, and > I would say has limited appeal to collectors as there are few resources out > there as the software is all fully licenced so its had to make legal copies. It does not help that the OS software also sucks. -- Will

Re: Who is in Houston?

2019-01-11 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Who bought the pile? What are the mainframes? Ex Houston Computer Museum? -- Will On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:38 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > 2 storage sheds were bought at auction. Includes mainframes, terminals, dot > matrix printers, monitors, PS/2 and PS/2 machines, etc. > > >

Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Looks like it used two serial ports, one at 9600 > baud for the primary console, then the other at 300 baud. Probably a > teletype off to the side. It is far more likely to have had a Dasher terminal, in this era. > Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears > all

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Just fixed a 66 Ampeg SB-13 guitar amp, the tubes are not cheap Hmmm...if only we knew a guy on this list that deals in tubes... -- Will

Re: Houston stash sorting this coming Saturday

2019-01-24 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Was this John that had a computer museum in Houston? I hadn't really caught > what the back story was on this collection and collector. That was John Keys. Has anyone heard *anything* from him or the Houston Computer "Museum" in the past few years? He actually had some real gems...and I hope

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I'm referring to times when I have absolutely no idea what is > reasonable. Learning how to judge scrap value is the first thing to do. Do research and gain experience. -- Will

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I would think knowing a minimum scrap value plus some reasonable > handling fees would be for things when conducting such deals. With that attitude, you will lose a lot more deals than you win. You have to beat scrap price by a *substantial* amount. You need to convince the dealer (or

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> That sounds all well and good. Until you something unexpected and > unknown when you are at an auction for something else. There's only so > much self education you can do on a smart phone 10 minutes before the > auction. Start now with the research. You can gain quite a lot knowledge from

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-04-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Its a System/360 model 20 - and looking to be nice shape. Big bucks, even if just a 20. -- Will On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:04 AM jos via cctalk wrote: > > > The seller clearly has no idea, but the starting price is right ! > >

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-04-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
And looking again, some of a System/370 pile (model 125)? Bigger bucks. -- Will On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM William Donzelli wrote: > > Its a System/360 model 20 - and looking to be nice shape. Big bucks, > even if just a 20. > > -- > Will > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:04 AM jos via cctalk

Re: IBM 360 Model 50 information?

2019-03-30 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> My experience with IBM legal (who were actually quite communicative when > I approached them) on that front with IBM 1410 manuals suggests to me > that they will not ever give explicit permission, because nobody at IBM > will ever by confident that they won't end up giving away some trade >

Re: IBM 360 Model 50 information?

2019-03-30 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Sounds like it's time to have someone high up at the CHM talk to someone > at IBM to get an OK; if you only ask for permission, not for IBM to cough > up the info themselves, that might be doable. It is very likely IBM does not have the information anymore - at least not in the archives. Maybe

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-04-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
The description states the machines are in a house, and in possibly bad condition. Also, no shipping to the US. -- Will On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 3:02 PM Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > > > > On 6 Apr 2019, at 18:58, Adrian Stoness via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > is it me or is it sitting on a

Re: OT: Phone museum seeks new owner

2019-02-20 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
So...how 'bout them phones? (hint, hint) Does anyone know if they have any CO stuff? (only a tiny, tiny fraction of telephone collectors care, even a tiny bit, about CO stuff) -- Will

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-20 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> FDDI didn't live all that long because 100 Mb Ethernet replaced it, but while > it was out there it made a fine backbone for Ethernet-based LANs. And a good sized chunk of the Internet ran over it for a good long while. Also pretty bullet proof. -- Will

Re: Pioneers of computing

2019-03-13 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> > This is a bit interesting in that Brattain, Bardeen and Shockley are > > credited in the popular press as having invented the transistor. > > However, that was a bit overstated; they had to re-word their patent > > application to state that they'd developed a "junction" transistor, when > > a

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-16 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
No steals, but does seem quite reasonable. Well, depending on just HOW pretty the girl is. -- Will On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 5:37 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: > > Well, I got outta there with: > > - IBM 6360, $45 > - IBM 4868-002, $20 > - 10 pack DSDD soft sector 8" floppies, $10 > - Life

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-16 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Also, can you find out when they plan to close their doors and/or call the scrapper? A timetable? Thank you for your effort so far. -- Will On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:20 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: > > More photos posted to the album with some NIB DEC boards, look like a > motherboard

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-16 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Probably the biggest question everyone has is if the prices are reasonable for a place about to go under. -- Will On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 1:52 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I heard Kemners Surplus in Pottstown, PA was going away so I decided to pay > them a visit. I'm

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I see 4 Boxes of punch cards. All blank? > > https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN-btB2yizsHBmabHb7xtHr_zUWZlS6QENHMHbb-beU6Jf4oNqEABuPoVWamYFUtg/photo/AF1QipP1COpYtcSYKVmiBAZskOJL5yujK8d2561Fepk?key=MmhXdXRtVkhoZkNGODBleGFNeGYza2xvV1BkbjV3 > > Too bad he wants $25 a box. 25 dollars for a

Re: Wirewrap DIP sockets - any interest?

2019-02-12 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> ARRgh! Not more than a few milligrams per the usual DIP > sockets. Likely not worth the trouble of grinding them up to > extract the gold from all that base metal. A lot of precious metal scrappers have wildly differing opinions on that. -- Will

Re: Wirewrap DIP sockets - any interest?

2019-02-12 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
So I received many requests for WW sockets - more than I thought I would - so I am going to pick two people at random to deal with. If you do not hear from me, do not despair - if either of the two I originally picked flakes out or something, you may get reselected! Anyway, the sockets are likely

Re: IBM terminals with keyboards, 3174 controllers, 4700 controllers

2019-02-14 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Any pics available? -- Will On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:20 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > Previously I have posted some vendors who have old hardware they are willing > to sell. > > Earlier this week I was in San Antonio, and I stopped by an old friend to > say hello. > > He has

Re: Wirewrap DIP sockets - any interest?

2019-02-11 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
:25 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > > Does anyone here still actively wire wrap circuits? I am thinking > > about dumping my inventory of nice machine pin wirewrap sockets. > > Lately they have been selling like lead balloons. > > > > Contact me off list. >

Re: Wirewrap DIP sockets - any interest?

2019-02-11 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
in some. > > > > Mike Zahorik > > (414) 254-6768 > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of William > > Donzelli via cctalk > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 02:37 PM > > To: Bill Gunshan

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-15 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I know, they're not called AS/400s any more. We're on a POWER 8 box, > an 8286-41A. But until IBM comes up with a new name that's an improvement > over AS/400, we're sticking with that name. Just like approximately everyone else. I have even heard IBMers involved with the machines stick to

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-28 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> If someone isn’t able to sell for the price they’d like to get, maybe the > market won’t bear that price and they need to lower it. Scrapping should be a > course of last resort, a way to recover value from something you can’t even > give away, not a competing outlet for goods. But in this

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-23 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
I think you just gave fair warning. No, I am not interested, as I do not do HP. -- Will On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 5:47 PM Jay West wrote: > > Because Will, I'm not sure that would be fair to the other people already > here watching or planning to bid. I'd be swooping in and changing an auction

Re: HP board "gold recovery" garbage

2019-01-24 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Good, older MLCCs can be up to 3 or 4 percent Palladium by weight. Modern-ish ones can be zero, but are often maybe 0.1 percent. It adds up. Remember, Palladium is *heavy*, ceramic is not. -- Will On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > On 01/23/2019 08:20 PM, ED

Re: "arx-149" computer. .. what Is?

2019-04-15 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> It doesn't show up here: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_electronics_of_the_United_States I think 99.99mumble percent of JETDS systems ("AN/") do not show up on that list. I have a 1972 edition of one of the JANAP guides (I forget which one) used to determine the

Re: "arx-149" computer. .. what Is?

2019-04-15 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Lovely. So have you checked it for the mentioned type? It is not JETDS, so it would not be there (and it is indeed not there). -- Will

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-04-16 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Looks like it went for roughly $4k USD. Obviously logistics and storage > cost play into things, but somebody got a deal. Dang. -C Assuming the innards of the machines were not all rust buckets - yes. I expected at least twice that, maybe triple. But who knows - maybe the seller was not very

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-04-16 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I believe the intention is to attempt to restore the /20 + peripherals. > Not sure about plans for the 370. It is a huge task, but they are keen. Did they get docs and ALDs with the pile? Or is that a big unknown until they start actually pulling the machines out. The 3125 would likely be near

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-04-16 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Huh? Sorry, but I'm not made of money, and obviously, we have different > oppinions about the value of a large system in unknown or mediocre > condition. It is not your fault or anything - you gave it a good try. I have been in the same boat, bidding what I could, but losing out. I think the

Re: Plane of core memory

2019-04-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I don't expect that any EBAM has survived--I think all of the stuff I > saw at CDC ADL was scrapped. Seems that the technology is all but > forgotten today: > > https://bit.ly/2KOOl82 How was the CDC EBAM different from the other memory tubes, like the Radechon? -- Will

Re: Plane of core memory

2019-04-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> (Sorry, not currently interested in selling :-) Well, I am. And I have a LOT of 8K core system modules (planes and drivers) from old Stewart-Warner (I think) vector graphics terminals from the 1960s. Check Ebay in a week or three... -- Will

Re: Plane of core memory

2019-04-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Or still do a fluid one, but take Turing's suggestion > and use gin as the medium. Better use some good error correction. -- Will

Re: Thinking about PDP11 PC05 Emulation

2019-03-11 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> BUT - it also occurs to me someone may have already done something like > this? Any leads / ideas? Get an old BlackBox ABCD switch that can handle true 25 pin serial ports? It seems like every year at VCFMW there are a few in the free pile. -- Will

Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Umm...yes, I know. -- Will On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 6:35 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 5/28/19 10:35 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > > Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something, > > not Bakelite. > > What flavor pop? (&qu

Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one, but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob. Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft? -- Will On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote: > > A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob

Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something, not Bakelite. -- Will On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:27 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > Looks like a standard old Bakelite type knob to me. I pulled a lot from old > equipment 30 years ago. I will check to see if any got

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> The disclaimer at the bottom of the page is good for a laugh, and could be a > hint. > > http://www.gopherprotocol.com That is pretty boilerplate legal, actually. -- Will

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Wow, you fell hard... -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:56 AM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > Get a load of this: > http://www.gopherprotocol.com > > I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention. > > I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP! > > g. > > > -- >

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Oh, it is a legit company - the SEC filings could not faked on the government website. I went down a quick rabbit hole, and I saw things about the HQ being in Kiev, 1000 to 1 stock splits, and so forth. No one would ever invest in that company unless they specifically wanted weird things to

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out of the Ukraine. -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:01 PM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: > > > Wow, you fell

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them... Did the page not smell fishy to you? -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:14 PM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: > > > It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a > > LOT of shady

Re: "industrial" PDP-11

2019-05-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Tempest VT100 are generally marked VT100 TEMPEST on the front tag. -- Will On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 8:57 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Paul Anderson > > > They did make the RT100, RT340, etc. which were rugidized versions or > > the VTs. > > We also ran into a VT52 (I

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-05-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
The logo is sort of wrong for the era. I think it is just a sticker that was applied. And I do not think Puma would have been running on just a model 20, and especially in such an "interesting" datacenter. By the 60s, they were already a good sized company. -- Will On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 6:26

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