Itel was basically a rebrander. AS/5 was a National Advance system
under the covers, and AS/6 was a Hitachi HITAC M180.
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On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> On 10/6/17 5:59 AM, Anthony Bennett via cctalk wrote:
>> If this is the
> This reminds me of every TV show and movie I've seen where consoles begin
> exploding on a space ship during a battle. All of this time, I thought that
> was entirely a Hollywood fabrication!
Given all the jenky engineering in the tube circuits inside a DD60, I
am surprised more of them did
> And, if you went to 74S, Fast or 74AS, you could easily match the ECL
> 10K performance. Now, there were a bunch of tricks that you could use with
> ECL that helped, like wired-OR instead of adding a tri-state buffer. ECL
> had a notable advantage in 1970, but as TTL derivatives continued to
>
I will just leave this link right here...
https://www.youtube.com/user/uniservo
Thanks...
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On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk
wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 01:04:38PM -0600, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
>> Wow, even a Bendix G-15 in there
> I know that one did get built,
I had a VT62 a year or two ago.
I know of a few VT72s up north (I have seen them).
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> 2. It was the first DEC terminal with a detachable keyboard (not counting the
> GT-40) and if you needed an extension cord, you could just get a headphone
> cord at Radio Shack.
The VT27 preceded the VT100, being a VT52 with a detachable keyboard -
but there is a good possibility few to none
> Compared to many of the others available at the time, it seemed to me to be:
>
> 1. expensive
Keep in mind that this is largely irrelevant. Terminals were often
used as bargaining chips when large systems were purchased. Salesmen
could "throw in" some number of terminals with a system, in
> So far as near as I can tell the earliest FDDs (IBM 23FD Minnow and Memorex
> 650/651) used Step In/Step Out. The IBM 33FD Igar used direct control of the
> motor.
Someone asked (you?) on one of my Youtube videos for more detail about
the 23FD's stepping method, so I made a video covering the
> I dunno about these historical accounts.
Radar tech history is a real minefield, and my advice is to take any
historical accounts or studies that are older than ten or fifteen
years old with a grain of salt. Often a big grain.
"History is written by the victors" had been very strong with radar
> Ordinary magnetrons had indeed been around for a while; they were invented in
> 1920. The British invention was the _cavity magnetron_, a quite different
> beast; it was kind of a cross between a magnetron and a klystron, with the
> best features of each.
The cavity magnetron was invented by a
> A very interesting story in this radar history is how the Dutch managed to
> rescue the EF50 tube, essential for these early radar receivers, to England
> just hours before the Germans invaded holland.
This is generally a good article, but has a major flaw or two.
One, it describes acorn tubes
> The one described in the RH is a "split anode magnetron". The note on
> it says that "frequency stability is not very good:.
Yes, but in World War 2 (and a little into the 1950s), split anode
magnetrons were used in ECM "jammer" transmitters.
> It's my understanding that the allies used the
:> The high frequency power tubes were required for better spacial
resolution. My understanding was that major difference between the
German radar and allied was that the Germans had a single trace, like
a time domain reflectometer. The allies had a rotating image that is
similar to what we see on
> You've discovered some computer that doesn't ever crash?
They used to be called "IBM Midrange".
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It's Beanie Babies all over again, people. Give it a year or two and the
keyboard market will likely crash. Pick them up on the slide down. I bet
most will not be gutted, simply due to the general lack of activity of
computer people. Just like we are.
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Will (who paid attention to all those IBM
It just ended. I made a crap video (no people in it) that Bruce needs
to screen before I post to Youtube, however, there was a video team
that shot an enormous amount of 4K footage. Bruce does not quite know
what to do with it, but figured it needed recording.
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Will
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 1:00
AIX was ported in very cut down manner and used on the f960 and h960
routing cards used on the early T3 based NSFnet. F960 was FDDI and H960 was
HSSI. Come think of it, I think the v.25 and ether net cards also used
i960, just a smaller version.
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Will
On Oct 29, 2018 12:13 PM, "alan--- via
> So, what is this i960-based card for?
They were the routers. At the core nodes of the network, there would
be a big RS/6000s (very early POWER1 types) that would each do about
4-5 high speed interfaces (FDDI, HSSI, and 10base2). Each interface
was one of these cards, so each of the big RS/6000s
What is the thread? 6-32? 8-32?
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Will
On Oct 26, 2018 8:44 PM, "Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk"
wrote:
> On 10/26/2018 7:41 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote:
>
>> On 10/26/2018 7:19 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>> William said
>>>
One the original PDP-8 ("Straight 8"), the
One the original PDP-8 ("Straight 8"), the front panel has two aluminum
strips on the sides, one on the left and one on the right. Each should have
a pair of flathead countersunk screws, likwly Phillips head.
Can someone tell me the exact specs, basically thread, length, head, and
material of the
> - Front panel PCB,
> - Case top AND bottom,
> - Power supply.
> - Some flip-chip slots are empty. Not sure if supposed to be.
It is actually not all that sad looking. The blinkenlights board will
be hard to find.
I might have a power supply.
It is likely it never had a top and bottom
; Some of the interfaces cards used in the 6611 where unique to it and
>> > never made it to the "standard" RS/6000 line. There was also a PCI
>> > version of the Artic 960 but by the time it came along the 6611 was long
>> > gone.
>> >
>> > P
acks I linked onto nekochan
> forums but that site is gone. Wish people would migrate back to Usenet.
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:15 AM William Donzelli via cctalk
> wrote:
>>
>> > So, what is this i960-based card for?
>>
>> They were the routers. At the co
The 120 also used a 34010 to handle the graphics, I think? It has been
a long time...
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:51 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
wrote:
>
> If I recall correctly the Xstation 120 (the first of them) used an 8086
> (might have been an 80186). The big issue was that you
t; Some of the interfaces cards used in the 6611 where unique to it and
> never made it to the "standard" RS/6000 line. There was also a PCI
> version of the Artic 960 but by the time it came along the 6611 was long
> gone.
>
> Paul.
>
>
> On 2018-11-01 1:15 PM, Wi
> There were two versions of the 360/30. The first 1000 units
> had that plastic overlay panel, the later 9000 units
> apparently had the more traditional 360-style panel with
> user-replaceable lamps.
> But, I can't find any pictures of one.
And at least one dark panel one (currently in
> Getting diagnostics to work would be a really good start.
I may have install media and diagnostic disks for the 320H kicking around.
> The AIX on the SP2 would have been the same, in fact the hardware on the
> SP2 nodes was similar to the regular RS/6000 boxes except the console
> was through
> That being said, I
> think anyone under the illusion that there's a worthwhile amount of gold
> in a Sound Blaster has been spending too much time huffing mercury fumes.
That, or they might actually understand how the scrap industry works.
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> $7-10 to sort out and carefully handle (vs usual strip for gold recovery),
> seems pretty reasonable to me. I'd expect the cost has more to do with
> labor than gold being recovered.
Yes, probably half of the asking price is the metal, the rest is
labor, shipping and handling, and just a plain
> That's interesting, my local recycler sells boards to me at $1-$3/lb
> depending on some notion of scrap metal content, so I'm usually looking at
> around $2 per card (untested). I wonder if it's one of those things where
> there's a huge amount of regional variation?
Age of the boards,
> Any chance someone could write it up?
Pending approval and editing, I will release some video footage I took
on my Youtube channel, Uniservo. No people, no discussion, just a
walkaround of the hardware exhibits. There was real 4K video being
shot (terabytes of it!) by professionals, but I do
> I know there
> is the upcoming Nova event so I thought this would be good timing.
You missed it!
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It looks like a Raytheon 706 without the front covers.
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 2:21 PM Justin Keogh via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Anyone know more about this? So far I have only found references to Rayethon
> Computers in old trade mags.
>
> http://v6y.net/IMG_20180912_170812.jpg
>
> The rack
Statistically, it is more likely to be a 1700 module (a more common
machine). The front bracket is missing, which is the easy way to
distinguish the two types.
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On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 6:10 PM Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
>
> The second one is a 6000 mainframe "cordwood" module. It
I think the Cyber 70s used the later modules (the multilayer and/or IC things).
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On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 3:06 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On 12/29/18 10:47 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > Statistically, it is more likely to be a 1700 module (a more common
c 29, 2018 at 2:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On 12/29/18 10:47 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > Statistically, it is more likely to be a 1700 module (a more common
> > machine). The front bracket is missing, which is the easy way to
> > distinguish the tw
> And then the PDP-11 put the nail in that coffin (and in 1980, there were more
> PDP-11's, world-wide, than any other kind of computer).
I bet the guys at Zilog might have something to talk to you about.
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> With the advent of wide spread introduction of 16 bit machines the
> definition of a byte as an 8 bit unit was accepted because ASCII
> supported character sets for multiple languages, before the 8bit
> standard there were 6 bit, 7 bit variations of he character sets.
> Gee, what were teletypes,
> - some marketing person made it up
You believed them? Have your head examined.
> - they were only counting things that were general-purpose (i.e. came with
> mass storage and compilers)
Conditions, conditions.
> - they didn't consider micros as "computers" (many were used in things like
>
That would be a LOT of pennies of gold.
But people on this list do not like to hear this.
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:57 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> This hurts my heart:
>
> HP Gold vintage 1970's high yeld recovery plated ic chips leads w palladium
> caps
>
Maybe not the 450 dollars asking, but likely at least 250 dollars for
the pile. It is HP - thick plate everywhere, in the ICs, and probably
a few other places.
Getting E-scrap refined is very expensive to do in small batches. To
make it feasible, about a ton of good gold bearing scrap is needed
Why not offer them a nice pile of money for just that board - make it
worth their while to update the auction?
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 5:34 PM Jay West via cctalk
wrote:
>
> OMG no, that hurts more than just my heart because: That top board on the
> stack is a 12922, part of that 3
via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it being in
> > > Poughkeepsie.
> > > Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have another kinda
> > > parts Nova 4
> The original "Flip Chip" was a packaging failure. It was literally a die
> bonded to a PCB
> and never went into production.
>
> I think it is mentioned in "Computer Engineering"
>
> IBM perfected the techniques to do this later with the development of solder
> bumps and
> IR reflow.
Are you
> Could be--but I was pointed out that "straight eight" was an automotive
> term familiar to the laity that pre-dated DEC by a goodly number of
> years. We live in a world dominated by automobile marketing.
Some points to ponder:
The term Straight-9 is basically never heard when referring to
They use the same R and S numbers, just late revision suffices. I have
a machine made with them that sometimes even works. I have a bunch
that have had the gold fingers peeled off (don't blame me - I got them
this way).
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:26 PM Al Kossow wrote:
>
> yea, that was
You have forgotten that I am the one that cleaned out Cardamation...
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On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 1:02 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:20 AM Ethan Dicks wrote:
> > The interesting thing about my M-200 is it has a factory mod...
>
> A little clarification of
> Ed's having word salad for lunch. Again.
But the lunch was bad, so he wrote a bad review, but now regrets it.
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Or NGram.
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 1:10 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
>
> On 12/21/18 10:03 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>
> > "Straight-8" seems to be a fairly modern name coming from collectors
> >
> > I never heard it called that before then.
>
> Anyone feel like doing a
> AFAIK, the first ICs (in the modern sense) on FLIP CHIPS were on M-series.
I think the W706 and W707 predated the M series by a hair, using
commercial MRTL (I think). These were the early TTY
receiver/transmitter cards.
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I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart fairly
easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.
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On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't have
> space for the desk
> I have long wondered if there are computer languages that aren't rooted
> in English / ASCII. I feel like it's rather pompous to assume that all
> programming languages are rooted in English / ASCII. I would hope that
> there are programming languages that are more specific to the region of
>
> Looks like the "Mainframe" is an IBM Series/1 which is not a Mainframe, and
> I would say has limited appeal to collectors as there are few resources out
> there as the software is all fully licenced so its had to make legal copies.
It does not help that the OS software also sucks.
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Who bought the pile?
What are the mainframes?
Ex Houston Computer Museum?
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On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:38 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk
wrote:
>
> 2 storage sheds were bought at auction. Includes mainframes, terminals, dot
> matrix printers, monitors, PS/2 and PS/2 machines, etc.
>
>
>
> Looks like it used two serial ports, one at 9600
> baud for the primary console, then the other at 300 baud. Probably a
> teletype off to the side.
It is far more likely to have had a Dasher terminal, in this era.
> Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears
> all
> Just fixed a 66 Ampeg SB-13 guitar amp, the tubes are not cheap
Hmmm...if only we knew a guy on this list that deals in tubes...
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> Was this John that had a computer museum in Houston? I hadn't really caught
> what the back story was on this collection and collector.
That was John Keys. Has anyone heard *anything* from him or the
Houston Computer "Museum" in the past few years?
He actually had some real gems...and I hope
> I'm referring to times when I have absolutely no idea what is
> reasonable.
Learning how to judge scrap value is the first thing to do. Do
research and gain experience.
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> I would think knowing a minimum scrap value plus some reasonable
> handling fees would be for things when conducting such deals.
With that attitude, you will lose a lot more deals than you win.
You have to beat scrap price by a *substantial* amount. You need to
convince the dealer (or
> That sounds all well and good. Until you something unexpected and
> unknown when you are at an auction for something else. There's only so
> much self education you can do on a smart phone 10 minutes before the
> auction.
Start now with the research. You can gain quite a lot knowledge from
Its a System/360 model 20 - and looking to be nice shape. Big bucks,
even if just a 20.
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On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:04 AM jos via cctalk wrote:
>
>
> The seller clearly has no idea, but the starting price is right !
>
>
And looking again, some of a System/370 pile (model 125)?
Bigger bucks.
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On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM William Donzelli wrote:
>
> Its a System/360 model 20 - and looking to be nice shape. Big bucks,
> even if just a 20.
>
> --
> Will
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:04 AM jos via cctalk
> My experience with IBM legal (who were actually quite communicative when
> I approached them) on that front with IBM 1410 manuals suggests to me
> that they will not ever give explicit permission, because nobody at IBM
> will ever by confident that they won't end up giving away some trade
>
> Sounds like it's time to have someone high up at the CHM talk to someone
> at IBM to get an OK; if you only ask for permission, not for IBM to cough
> up the info themselves, that might be doable.
It is very likely IBM does not have the information anymore - at least
not in the archives. Maybe
The description states the machines are in a house, and in possibly
bad condition.
Also, no shipping to the US.
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On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 3:02 PM Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> > On 6 Apr 2019, at 18:58, Adrian Stoness via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >
> > is it me or is it sitting on a
So...how 'bout them phones? (hint, hint)
Does anyone know if they have any CO stuff?
(only a tiny, tiny fraction of telephone collectors care, even a tiny
bit, about CO stuff)
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Will
> FDDI didn't live all that long because 100 Mb Ethernet replaced it, but while
> it was out there it made a fine backbone for Ethernet-based LANs.
And a good sized chunk of the Internet ran over it for a good long while.
Also pretty bullet proof.
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> > This is a bit interesting in that Brattain, Bardeen and Shockley are
> > credited in the popular press as having invented the transistor.
> > However, that was a bit overstated; they had to re-word their patent
> > application to state that they'd developed a "junction" transistor, when
> > a
No steals, but does seem quite reasonable. Well, depending on just HOW
pretty the girl is.
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On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 5:37 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Well, I got outta there with:
>
> - IBM 6360, $45
> - IBM 4868-002, $20
> - 10 pack DSDD soft sector 8" floppies, $10
> - Life
Also, can you find out when they plan to close their doors and/or call
the scrapper? A timetable?
Thank you for your effort so far.
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On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:20 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> More photos posted to the album with some NIB DEC boards, look like a
> motherboard
Probably the biggest question everyone has is if the prices are
reasonable for a place about to go under.
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On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 1:52 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I heard Kemners Surplus in Pottstown, PA was going away so I decided to pay
> them a visit. I'm
> I see 4 Boxes of punch cards. All blank?
>
> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN-btB2yizsHBmabHb7xtHr_zUWZlS6QENHMHbb-beU6Jf4oNqEABuPoVWamYFUtg/photo/AF1QipP1COpYtcSYKVmiBAZskOJL5yujK8d2561Fepk?key=MmhXdXRtVkhoZkNGODBleGFNeGYza2xvV1BkbjV3
>
> Too bad he wants $25 a box.
25 dollars for a
> ARRgh! Not more than a few milligrams per the usual DIP
> sockets. Likely not worth the trouble of grinding them up to
> extract the gold from all that base metal.
A lot of precious metal scrappers have wildly differing opinions on that.
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So I received many requests for WW sockets - more than I thought I
would - so I am going to pick two people at random to deal with. If
you do not hear from me, do not despair - if either of the two I
originally picked flakes out or something, you may get reselected!
Anyway, the sockets are likely
Any pics available?
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Will
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:20 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Previously I have posted some vendors who have old hardware they are willing
> to sell.
>
> Earlier this week I was in San Antonio, and I stopped by an old friend to
> say hello.
>
> He has
:25 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > Does anyone here still actively wire wrap circuits? I am thinking
> > about dumping my inventory of nice machine pin wirewrap sockets.
> > Lately they have been selling like lead balloons.
> >
> > Contact me off list.
>
in some.
> >
> > Mike Zahorik
> > (414) 254-6768
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of William
> > Donzelli via cctalk
> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 02:37 PM
> > To: Bill Gunshan
> I know, they're not called AS/400s any more. We're on a POWER 8 box,
> an 8286-41A. But until IBM comes up with a new name that's an improvement
> over AS/400, we're sticking with that name.
Just like approximately everyone else. I have even heard IBMers
involved with the machines stick to
> If someone isn’t able to sell for the price they’d like to get, maybe the
> market won’t bear that price and they need to lower it. Scrapping should be a
> course of last resort, a way to recover value from something you can’t even
> give away, not a competing outlet for goods.
But in this
I think you just gave fair warning.
No, I am not interested, as I do not do HP.
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 5:47 PM Jay West wrote:
>
> Because Will, I'm not sure that would be fair to the other people already
> here watching or planning to bid. I'd be swooping in and changing an auction
Good, older MLCCs can be up to 3 or 4 percent Palladium by weight.
Modern-ish ones can be zero, but are often maybe 0.1 percent.
It adds up. Remember, Palladium is *heavy*, ceramic is not.
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Will
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:29 AM Jon Elson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On 01/23/2019 08:20 PM, ED
> It doesn't show up here:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_electronics_of_the_United_States
I think 99.99mumble percent of JETDS systems ("AN/") do not show up on
that list.
I have a 1972 edition of one of the JANAP guides (I forget which one)
used to determine the
> Lovely. So have you checked it for the mentioned type?
It is not JETDS, so it would not be there (and it is indeed not there).
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> Looks like it went for roughly $4k USD. Obviously logistics and storage
> cost play into things, but somebody got a deal. Dang. -C
Assuming the innards of the machines were not all rust buckets - yes.
I expected at least twice that, maybe triple.
But who knows - maybe the seller was not very
> I believe the intention is to attempt to restore the /20 + peripherals.
> Not sure about plans for the 370. It is a huge task, but they are keen.
Did they get docs and ALDs with the pile? Or is that a big unknown
until they start actually pulling the machines out.
The 3125 would likely be near
> Huh? Sorry, but I'm not made of money, and obviously, we have different
> oppinions about the value of a large system in unknown or mediocre
> condition.
It is not your fault or anything - you gave it a good try. I have been
in the same boat, bidding what I could, but losing out. I think the
> I don't expect that any EBAM has survived--I think all of the stuff I
> saw at CDC ADL was scrapped. Seems that the technology is all but
> forgotten today:
>
> https://bit.ly/2KOOl82
How was the CDC EBAM different from the other memory tubes, like the Radechon?
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> (Sorry, not currently interested in selling :-)
Well, I am. And I have a LOT of 8K core system modules (planes and
drivers) from old Stewart-Warner (I think) vector graphics terminals
from the 1960s. Check Ebay in a week or three...
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Will
> Or still do a fluid one, but take Turing's suggestion
> and use gin as the medium.
Better use some good error correction.
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> BUT - it also occurs to me someone may have already done something like
> this? Any leads / ideas?
Get an old BlackBox ABCD switch that can handle true 25 pin serial ports?
It seems like every year at VCFMW there are a few in the free pile.
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Umm...yes, I know.
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On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 6:35 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On 5/28/19 10:35 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something,
> > not Bakelite.
>
> What flavor pop? (&qu
I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one,
but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob.
Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft?
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On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
wrote:
>
> A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob
Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something,
not Bakelite.
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On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:27 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Looks like a standard old Bakelite type knob to me. I pulled a lot from old
> equipment 30 years ago. I will check to see if any got
> The disclaimer at the bottom of the page is good for a laugh, and could be a
> hint.
> > http://www.gopherprotocol.com
That is pretty boilerplate legal, actually.
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Wow, you fell hard...
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:56 AM geneb via cctalk wrote:
>
> Get a load of this:
> http://www.gopherprotocol.com
>
> I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention.
>
> I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP!
>
> g.
>
>
> --
>
Oh, it is a legit company - the SEC filings could not faked on the
government website.
I went down a quick rabbit hole, and I saw things about the HQ being
in Kiev, 1000 to 1 stock splits, and so forth.
No one would ever invest in that company unless they specifically
wanted weird things to
It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a
LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out
of the Ukraine.
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:01 PM geneb via cctalk wrote:
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> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote:
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> > Wow, you fell
Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them...
Did the page not smell fishy to you?
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:14 PM geneb via cctalk wrote:
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> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote:
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> > It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a
> > LOT of shady
Tempest VT100 are generally marked VT100 TEMPEST on the front tag.
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On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 8:57 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk
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> From: Paul Anderson
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> > They did make the RT100, RT340, etc. which were rugidized versions or
> > the VTs.
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> We also ran into a VT52 (I
The logo is sort of wrong for the era. I think it is just a sticker
that was applied.
And I do not think Puma would have been running on just a model 20,
and especially in such an "interesting" datacenter. By the 60s, they
were already a good sized company.
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