it.
Pictures are here
http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/32499942349-1432868285-94725/0
Rod
Rdooley at shaw dot ca
in VT100 about 1975
First micro processors to support networking late 70's
Loads of differing LAN and WAN (packet switching) software
(1970-1980)
TCP/IP 1982
Remember my view was from the inside and not as good as from outside.
Rod Smallwood
On 23/10/15 01:54, Murray
small to be of much use.
Oh well I'm getting there but it can be slow. (interesting all the same)
Regards
Rod
On 23/10/15 17:59, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Rod Smallwood
> perhaps we can pool our knowledge and and allocate getting different
> parts sourced/made to
Nope never heard of it either
Rod
On 23/10/15 18:29, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
never heard of it -Ed#
In a message dated 10/23/2015 10:08:44 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
paulkon...@comcast.net writes:
How many people consider the Micral to be of that level of significance?
Hello Noel
Yes Console and if my memory serves me well (which it usually
doesn't) programmers console.
Who's doing the PDP-8 switches?
Rod
On 25/10/15 22:33, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Rod Smallwood
> Just refresh my memory. C+K are the what I would call PDP
is based on a 465mm x 210mm (18.25" x 8.25") perspex
(plexiglass) blank.
In an attempt to get ahead of the requests I have been trawling the web
for pictures of anything DEC that has a front panel.
It would seem you are Mr Switches and I am Panel Man. !!
Regards
Rod
On 25/10/15 1
Thank you most helpful.
Regards
Rod
On 26/10/15 21:02, Jörg Hoppe wrote:
Rob,
Here is a high quality PDP-11/70 foto:
ftp://jhoppe.ddns.net/blinkenbone/pdp1170.jpg
I used it for the photographic panel Java simulation
http://blinkenbone.com/projects/pdp-11-70-panel-on-blinkenbone/243
. There are tables for speed,
feed, size of drill and type of material.
As my old school metalwork master would say "more speed less feed".
Whilst you may not be able to judge feed rate because it involves time.
Slower feed is better.
Rod
On 27/10/15 06:59, ste...@malikoff.com wrote:
On 10/
Hi Guys
I need to get some comments on the following.
1. Would a matt finish be better than the current glossy one?
2. Should the round holes be pre-drilled?
Regards
Rod
in a film studio?
Did anybody on the list see any posts to the list or was it by
invitation only?
Did anybody on the list know but were told to keep quiet.
That must be about the worst publicity failure on record.
What the heck happened?
Rod Smallwood
On 29/10/15 14:04, Liam Proven wrote
Hi Jay
Is this what you want me to look at with a view to panel
reproduction ?
Rod
On 29/10/15 20:28, Jay Jaeger wrote:
Looking at the document at:
http://dustyoldcomputers.com/pdp-common/reference/drawings/peripherals/docs/DEC-08-HIEA-DA_RF08_Jun70.pdf
The picture, though extremely
Looks a bit like a simulator of some sort.
Its difficult to see what the modules are. It could be an analog system.
Rod
On 29/10/15 22:28, Nick Allen wrote:
Looking for help identifying these 2 pieces of Massey Dickinson
equipment.
I was told this machine is a trainer of sorts, but have my
cotch from
his private supply.
I said I was a bit shook up. He said he was not surprised as 180 mph in
a GT40 would do that.
Happy Days oh yes!
Rod
On 24/10/15 12:19, tony duell wrote:
The UK is full of small companies making and repairing all kinds of past
products.
For example the M
ing for the switches possibly?
For one off panels I'm looking at flat bed printers. So far way to
expensive.
I hope this sets out what can be done.
Rod Smallwood
"If you take and do not give then soon there will be nothing more to take"
On 24/10/15 00:43, Mike Ross wrote:
On Sat,
but don't drill
right through,
Turn back to the side you started with and drill right through.
Rod
On 27/10/15 16:33, Jon Elson wrote:
On 10/26/2015 11:38 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 10/26/2015 08:54 PM, wulfman wrote:
To effectively drill in plastics you need to run the drill press on
the highest
An 8em ? Is that an PDP8/e or PDP8/m or both?
On 27/10/15 20:08, Adrian Stoness wrote:
For a 8 e m
On Oct 27, 2015 1:21 AM, "rod" <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
H Adrian
For the 11/70 ?
Rod
On 27/10/15 01:48, Adrian Stoness wrote:
how much?
On Mon, Oct 26,
Hi
Price will depend on the total quantity of each type.
A guess would be $120 for the 8/e and $130 for the /f or /m
Shipping included.
Rod
On 27/10/15 22:43, Adrian Stoness wrote:
curious about the price in general im working on a 8i thing but thats
totaly different
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015
never knew about it.
I could have been there in less than three hours. door to door.
Whoever hid this event form the greater collecting world should be made
to key in the PDP8 bootstrap 1024 times!!!
Seriously though, it would have been nice to have gone
Rod Smallwood
On 28/10/15 02:13, Jack
.
There are_twenty slots_ of which _five_ have already gone
Ask for the file of designs if you don't have it.
New panels in design stage for the 11/40 up to 11/70.
Scans, Photos and "I want one" for the above to me please.
Rod Smallwood
main rack in
case of heavy flack
Rod Smallwood
he various tasks taken on by
those with the knowledge and experience
we can make the difficult to parts available.
Rod Smallwood
Hi Kip
Panels for 8/e 8/f and 8/m will normally be a stock item.
They have only been used so far on the genuine DEC systems
they were intended for. You might want to check if PiDP8 will work.
Rod
On 09/11/15 10:34, Kip Koon wrote:
Hi Rod,
I'd love have a PiDP8 running with one
Now that would be a find.
As it so happens one of the guys who worked with me at NL
lives locally and we are both on the local council so I see him often.
In fact his wife (also councilor) was here yesterday.
As he was still there after I left to join DEC he may know more.
The keyboards some
there was a gaggle of very bemused people
looking at the screen.
Rod Smallwood
think it might well improve even the latest inks when it comes
to bonding.
Screening is quite robust but if you go at it with something sharp, you
can scratch it.
My my sample (old and damaged) panel has left the us and I'll track it
Regards
Rod
On 09/11/15 23:11, Al Kossow wrote:
On 11/9
Thank you Peter
I'll follow it up
rod
On 16/11/15 09:29, Peter Coghlan wrote:
rod wrote:
Hi Guys!
I am the happy owner of a DEC 3000 in other words an
Alpha.
It is fully working and boots VMS and goes into DEC windows just as
it should.
Its running a high res 23" c
will not be accused of
putting future possibilities at risk.
If somebody comes up with the same answer be it right or wrong I will
tell them.
Right now back to 11/70 front panels. Anybody know what the colours are
called?
On 15/11/15 14:06, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
>rod wrote:
Well thats p
Ah yes forgot that bit (thirty plus years is a while back) Tee adapter
on VT100 out, cable to cam sync in on cam - cam out to vt100 in.
Ill give it a go later- my video titler has an ext sync connector
On 10/11/15 10:59, Christian Corti wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015, rod wrote:
They were
)
3. For me its back to PDP11/40 thru 11/70 layouts.
4. Anybody need a one off. I'm trying to find an economic
way to handle custom jobs
5. I'm also looking at an option to put manufacturing
locations on as found on some systems (default is Maynard)
Rod
Yes much as I thought. What about S100 systems?
Many did have lamps and switches but I can think of a couple that didn't .
Northstar Horizon for one and Cromenco also.
On 31/10/15 21:36, tony duell wrote:
Hi Tony
I seem to remember, certainly in OEM land there were dev.
systems
data for existing panels you may have.
Rod (PanelMan) Smallwood
s asked me for a metal panel yet but the day will come and my
silk screen girls can screen on painted metal.
How wide are the panels? and how high is a one row panel?
Regards
Rod
On 03/11/15 07:04, Charles Anthony wrote:
Operation unit; fixed point and boolean math.
of the lower half shows four sub panels
CO4 ROWS
OU1 ROW
DU2 ROWS
APU 1 ROW
That might be do-able
Rod
On 02/11/15 01:00, Charles Anthony wrote:
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Michael Thompson <
michael.99.thomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Date: S
and look at the first off's
Rod
On 03/11/15 00:09, Jay West wrote:
This came up a few months ago here, and I asked for it to be taken to private
email. Not sure why it resurfaced again (nor do I wish an explanation for
it)... let's just keep this topic in private email please.
J
The list seems very quiet to-day.
I have had only one post this morning.
Anybody know why?
Rod Smallwood
blanking panel might be a non destructive access system.
Regards
Rod(PanelMan)Smallwood
On 01/11/15 12:05, Jeff Galinat wrote:
On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Brent Hilpert <hilp...@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
The other way round I think, the Altair and IMSAI were the only S100 machines I
recall OTTOMH
Hang on that sounds familiar.
I worked at a company that sold Intel Development systems.
That sounds like one of them
Rod
On 01/11/15 14:18, tony duell wrote:
One problem with a front panel on an S100 machine - or any microprocessor-based
machine - is getting access to the program counter so
Thanks for your efforts. They seem to be PDP11 types.
Has anybody had any luck with PDP -8 switches.
Has 3D printing been considered.?
Rod
On 01/11/15 22:12, Brent Hilpert wrote:
On 2015-Nov-01, at 7:21 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
I've ordered 10 7101J50-CQE2's from Online ... _Iff_ they fit
not about to do anything about it.
But the answers should be interesting
Rod Smallwood
.
So there are three 8/e A or B slots and eight 8/f or 8/m slots
available until Monday
Rod Smallwood
) and so
there are some living this side of the Atlantic.
Rod Smallwood
On 04/11/15 21:34, Anke Stüber wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 09:24:04PM +0100, Anke Stüber wrote:
[…] Classic Computing 2015 […]
btw, there are more vintage computing events in and around Germany that
I
Hi Anke
Vielen Dank für Ihre E-Mail
Ja, ich hätte jedoch gerne bei der Show
ich Ersatz des vorderen Panels für PDP-Computern
Rod Smallwood
On 04/11/15 20:24, Anke Stüber wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 02:38:28PM +, rod wrote:
Why would they keep such an event hidden?
I'm sorry
$130.00
Payment as before to my PayPal account using my email address
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com
Regards
Rod
Whats all the fuss about.?
What did the poor guy do to be banned?
Rod
On 02/11/15 20:48, Mike Stein wrote:
I only meant to point out that you have to be a VCF member to see
Jack's pictures and that I couldn't access them because I'd been
permanently banned; the ban itself, whether it should
Hi Guys
If you had one of the first batch of panels back in the Summer.
Please can you confirm it for my records.
Regards
Rod
Hi Tony
I seem to remember, certainly in OEM land there were dev.
systems with front panels and production systems without.
In other words the front panel was option and could be fitted.
Rod(PanelMan)Smallwood
On 31/10/15 18:40, tony duell wrote:
Hi Guys
Sitting here
I'm a DEC guy and have no knowledge of Honeywell
My resources are geared to silk screening perspex panels.
Your panel appears to be all metalwork.
I would advise you to try to get a group together as I think it would be
too much for one person.
Regards
Rod
On 31/10/15 20:11, Charles Anthony
Hi Al
From a panel makers point of view It would be straight forward
But without at least the lamp panel its just a nice wall hanging.
On 31/10/15 18:58, Al Kossow wrote:
On 10/30/15 11:32 PM, rod wrote:
Which computer would you nominate?
here is the weirdest DEC panel I have ever come
We have been through this loop before I believe. Didn't DEC sell the
PDP-11 rights to Mentec and from there they passed to a mysterious
unnamed individual.
Is owned by unknown a legal status?
Rod Smallwood
On 14/11/15 22:41, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-11-14 22:50, Mark J. Blair
y RT native.
Rod Smallwood
On 14/11/15 23:23, Mark J. Blair wrote:
I have no interest in causing any deliberate harm to whoever may hold the
rights to RT-11, but I am curious about whether the rights holder has shown any
interest in preserving old RT-11 code and documentation that has no cur
Rod
.
I need to go up in the loft and see if I have any more carts.
Rod
On 06/12/2015 17:27, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
>On Friday, December 4th, 2015 at 11:41 A.M. GMT (6:41 A.M. EST) Rod
Smallwood wrote:
Hello All
Well I managed to find some suitable rubber tubing and
glued it in pl
ribbon cable to
four plugs into the DLV.
As to the speed , well, I had one at DecPark called Sylvester because
sat on my desk and purred.
Rod
On 07/12/15 08:47, rod wrote:
its working ok now. Its hung off of an old notebook on a serial port.
NB has dos 6.2 and some drivers I found on spare
232.
Regards
Rod
On 04/12/15 20:11, tony duell wrote:
Hi Tony
Thats interesting I had thought about a model makers lathe.
I have a pillar drill and the usual set of tools.
I am darn glad I asked for a lathe instead of a car (and driving lessons) when
my late father offered
And we have a runner.. it was set for 19.2k
A quick change of config.sys and off we go.
I have only one cartridge so no tape to tape
Pc to tape works. So now to find one of my systems with a spare serial port
R
On 05/12/15 16:15, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-12-05 13:29, tony duell wrote:
Hi
At the moment I have it connected to an old laptop running msdos
and gizmos driver for same.
Its showing signs of life at 38400. I have BOB in circuit and can see
the commands going to it.
Some times it responds and sometimes it does not.
Rod
On 05/12/15 12:29, tony duell wrote
Hi Tony
Thats interesting I had thought about a model makers lathe.
I have a pillar drill and the usual set of tools.
I did start out as a mechanical engineer and my
top subjects at school were metalwork and technical drawing.
My metalwork master put me in for those subjects in GCE
Hi Jim
Although I watch Youtube a lot I have never tried to set
anything up.
I do have a webserver I'm working on. I'll get a static IP or one of
those follow me IP's
Rod
On 08/01/16 11:02, Jim Stephens wrote:
On 1/8/2016 2:09 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Hi Guys
I have a short
Keston Common? There's one near Bromley.
Oh well back to latest project - a TU58.
Power OK and BOB shows P2/DB25 is live so TXD
On 30/11/15 16:44, tony duell wrote:
Hi Tony
Did you say Data Dynamics? I certainly knew them. I used
to sell them LA36 print mechs.
Yes, almost
Hi Guys
Happy Thanksgiving to all my US friends on the list.
A nicer more helpful bunch of people I have yet to meet.
It looks like I'm coming over next fall to go the 2016 Chicago vintage show.
I'll be bringing my traveling panel exhibit with me.
Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of rod
Sent: Thursday, 26 November 2015 8:47 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving
Hi Guys
Happy Thanksgiving to all my US friends on the list.
A nicer more helpful bunch of people I ha
back.
Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
m the left hand side to the first switch opening. Finally from
the right hand side to the last switch opening.
Please send the three measurements with the type of system its off plus
any part numbers on the back of the panel to me.
Regards
Rod
not have this feature.
There is a single white line all of which is removed in the cutout area.
It also differs in several other ways as well.
So my reproduction panels have to follow the original designs.
Regards
Rod
On 20/11/15 19:06, Al Kossow wrote:
On 11/20/15 8:04 AM, rod wrote:
So
Thank you Charles
Most kind. Busy getting ready for the
first run of 8/e A and B next week.
Rod
On 21/11/15 14:04, Charles Dickman wrote:
Here is my attempt to convert the DEC Standard 092 color specifications to RGB
http://www.chdickman.com/pdp8/DECcolors
Hi
Power factor correction?
Hum suppression?
If its the type in a small squarish soldered up can.
Then open can and remove oil and paper.
Replace with modern type
Close up can and re-solder
Put it back where it came from.
Rod
On 19/11/15 10:20, Brian Walenz wrote:
Having read all sorts
"
Its a clear plexiglas blank I use for checking alignments.
Because its so clear I cant find it
Rod
Hello Mike
Photo attached - the real thing is much sharper.
Rod
On 06/06/2015 15:03, Mike Ross wrote:
Oh I'll take two or three of those if they're any good.
Might be interested in commissioning your young ladies to do pdp-15
and pdp-12 panels too.
Mike
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015
to sell and can do more if needed.
Due to the custom production they will not be low cost ($95.00 +
shipping from UK)
If you are interested I'll send you a picture. My photo skills are not
that good.
Rod Smallwood
switches availability.)
8/e Microprocessor PCB addon to run an 8/e simulator with
serial i/o to a terminal.
Rod Smallwood
On 08/06/2015 02:51, Mike Ross wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Noel Chiappa j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu wrote:
From: Rod Smallwood
I have recently produced a number of high quality custom PDP8/e front
panels. They are full size reproductions of the original
.
And after that a lamps and switches board when and if I solve the
Stackpole switch levers issue.
Please send in your orders so I can allocate production/shipping slots.
Regards
Rod Smallwood
Hi
I did consider that and as there will be more that the few I had planned.
I can do that. I thought I might call it a Replic8 or a Fake8 or Makan8
for the kit.
I am some what flattered that my humble efforts at artwork could be
mistaken for the real thing.
Thinking back some forty years I
$110 to my PayPal Account
(rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com)
and email me your address,
7. One has already gone so seven slots left
Regards
Rod
It looks like three dual systems with processors sharing common storage.
Tandem? or other robust ysytem
Rod
On 22/06/2015 21:39, Jay West wrote:
I saw this newpaper photo on ebay, item 191606970872, where these 2 big wigs
are proudly standing in front of their computer system looking
Well if that don't take the biscuit for originality.
Good luck to you sir. Its a living animated schematic.
Rod
On 23/06/2015 17:20, Phil Budne wrote:
If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone!
Yes I noticed the rarther fancy panels with the edgewise meters.
I'm begining to wonder if they might be for monitoring private comms
circuits.
Sort of a comms test box.
The meters would be right for signal to noise and the row of buttons at
the bottom for channel to monitor selection.
On
customers were he ones
to watch not the ones who were in trouble all the time.
The copying was much more like the space race and said a alot about what
silicon processing the USSR had or had access to.
Rod
On 24/06/2015 12:40, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-24 08:45, Holm Tiffe wrote
to all the
panels or none of them.
Comments please
Rod
shaft and lock predrilled
Price as before
$95.00 + $15.00 Shipping
Rod Smallwood
Well wadda you know! Guess what I'm working on?
For a working 8/i replica kit contact oscar vermeulen
On 14/06/2015 09:52, Paul Birkel wrote:
IMO the 8/I (assuming that you're not heading back to the straight-8 :-).
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Rod Smallwood
rodsmallwoo
Position 1 and 6 on select switch angled
As these only involve artwork and silk screen frame changes I can use
the same plexiglas blanks for them
Whats the next most popular PDP-8 after the /e? Any ideas ?
Rod
It might be cadmium
On 13/06/2015 16:45, John Wilson wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:20:19AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
So, what _is_ that grey coating - and, more important, how (if at all) can it
be reproduced these days?
Wild guess: some kind of oxide? I agree that it doesn't look
After all this time unless the configuration in the box is the same as
the label on the back
then all you have is the serial number of the box and I dont think empty
system boxes are worth much.
On 13/06/2015 12:57, Noel Chiappa wrote:
From: Sean Caron
it's a shame if the
Asof now I know of two variations
1,Selector switch positions 1 and 6 lines can be vertical or
at an angle to the vertical
2,Vertical divider between groups of three lamps
Anybody seen an 8/e panel with anything else?
Rod
Ever looked at an old radio chassis?
They had what I was led to believe was a grey cadium plating over the steel
The boxes BA11-ES and the like had I think a coat ing was some kind of
Nickel
My 11/34A has a greyish coating on the tiltable runners.
On 13/06/2015 21:35, couryho...@aol.com
of the scattered neutron pattern. What was it for?
Finding out the structure of crystals.
We also had a straight 8 doing data processsing.
Rod
On 05/07/2015 09:47, Dave G4UGM wrote:
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
Guzis
Sent: 05 July
in and wants one please let me know.
I'm going through the wish lists to see whats next. Probably 8/f or 8/m
One off's for old systems where there are very few examples in existance
and need custom one off's
please email me to discuss.
Rod
I'm sure its very intersting.
The website is designed for domestic consumption only as its all in Danish.
Rod
On 21/08/2015 11:27, Ian S. King wrote:
I had the privilege of visiting what Nico calls a 'museum-to-be' yesterday
evening, and it is far more than most of what I've seen! They have
Yes indeed danger wears a coat of many colours
Rod
On 21/08/2015 15:45, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2015-08-21 10:30 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Hi
Yes I know, but its not the norm to link from an English language email
to a site in another language with no warning.
I suppose they think everybody
Hi
Yes I know, but its not the norm to link from an English language email
to a site in another language with no warning.
I suppose they think everybody speaks Danish.
You could be heading into some real dark places without knowing. Rule
16b never logon to a site you cant read.
Rod
So what is the lifetime of a software copyright ?
On 21/08/2015 17:25, Mouse wrote:
There is also - to me! - a difference between something like ripping
off a manual and redistributing it [and] keeping a private archive
of such things, to make sure the information is not [lost]
Why private?
If you have some equipment surely it would reasonable to have the
manuals for it.
How the manuals are obtained is open to debate but not if you have the
right to own them.
Rod
On 21/08/2015 17:00, geneb wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015, Evan Koblentz wrote:
Years ago I needed a HP service
And...
We have a new question. What would have been the first piece of
copyrightable software?
Rod
On 21/08/2015 18:31, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 08/21/2015 10:11 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Yes OK and very long would be?
It varies by country. In the case of the USA, 95 years from
Excellent!
EEC (Europe) is 70 years from the death of a known
author or 70 years from publication if the author is unknown
On 21/08/2015 18:19, tony duell wrote:
If you have some equipment surely it would reasonable to have the
manuals for it.
How the manuals are obtained
Yes OK and very long would be?
On 21/08/2015 18:03, Paul Koning wrote:
On Aug 21, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Rod Smallwood rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com
wrote:
So what is the lifetime of a software copyright ?
The same as any other copyright. It depends on the country, but in general the answer
wrote:
My email wasn't 'go look at this site', it was 'I visited these nice
people' with the link as a courtesy. What 'norm'?
On Aug 21, 2015 4:51 PM, Rod Smallwood rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com
wrote:
Yes indeed danger wears a coat of many colours
Rod
On 21/08/2015 15:45, Toby Thain wrote
It also brings up another issue. When they did finally get some legal
stuff into place (circa 1988 over here) was it retrospective.?
If not then by definition anything prior is not protected and my be
freely distributed.
Rod
On 21/08/2015 22:34, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015, Rod
Hardly a surprise I'm 67
On 21/08/2015 18:50, geneb wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015, Rod Smallwood wrote:
So what is the lifetime of a software copyright ?
You're going to die before it expires. Quite possibly your grand
children as well.
g.
ones just arrived you would find all kinds of stuff:
Wrapped food of all kinds
Bibles
Copies of the Boston Globe
Cigarette packets (full and partly full)
Assorted screwdrivers
Spanners
Loose change
A note saying meet me at the rusty scupper (local bar)
Rod
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