On 10/29/22 01:06, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Re below. why would they refuse cash?
And vy the way, as soon as I had it, I offered it, but
they refused the tender.
If they accepted any amount from Sellam, they were on the hook for a lot
of laws
and regulations in the state. CA has
Re below. why would they refuse cash?
And vy the way, as soon as I had it, I offered it, but
they refused the tender.
of the building. The landlord doesn't get to keep a million dollars of
property over $4,000 of missed rent. It is not lawful to liquidate any of
the tenant's property to
> On Oct 19, 2022, at 11:29, Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
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>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 2:09 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk
>>> wrote:
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On Oct 19, 2022, at 08:14, Fritz Mueller via cctalk
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On Oct 19, 2022, at 6:16 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk
Apologies for the off-topic.
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 at 15:34, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
wrote:
> I got a government official to give me the legal definition and
> published it on wikipedia, quoting the official source.
>
Was it Measurement Canada's complaint form? Because they - that is,
Hear hear!
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022, 3:21 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Well, that's because the "WIKI" in "Wikipedia" stands for "We Impose
> Knowledge Interpretation".
>
> Sadly, the promise of the internet has been utterly destroyed by
> megalomaniacs, zealots,
Hear! hear! When I was teaching college I told my students I would
cross out any references to wikipedia in a paper.
I saw on Wikipedia that there is no legal definition of a pint of beer
in Canada.
I got a government official to give me the legal definition and
published it on wikipedia,
Well, that's because the "WIKI" in "Wikipedia" stands for "We Impose
Knowledge Interpretation".
Sadly, the promise of the internet has been utterly destroyed by
megalomaniacs, zealots, and abject morons. It's up to people like us to
preserve history as it actually happened, and not as the
> On Oct 19, 2022, at 2:09 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk
> wrote:
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>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 08:14, Fritz Mueller via cctalk
>> wrote:
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>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 6:16 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk
>>> wrote:
>>> ...a couple of years ago I wrote an article about the invention of FM
> On Oct 19, 2022, at 08:14, Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> wrote:
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>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 6:16 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk
>> wrote:
>> ...a couple of years ago I wrote an article about the invention of FM radio,
>> in Holland in 1919 (no, not by Armstrong in the USA in the late 1920s).
> Florida seems to be particularly creative, too: pay your contractor,
> contractor doesn't pay their supplier, supplier puts lien on _your_
> house for the money owed. Want to keep your house? Better pay again
> and then try to extract that money from the contractor later by
> way of the courts.
> On Oct 19, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Fritz Mueller wrote:
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>
>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 6:16 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk
>> wrote:
>> ...a couple of years ago I wrote an article about the invention of FM radio,
>> in Holland in 1919 (no, not by Armstrong in the USA in the late 1920s).
>
> That
On 2022-10-19 10:06, Raphaël Jacquot via cctalk wrote:
Le 19/10/2022 à 15:50, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk a écrit :
Florida seems to be particularly creative, too: pay your contractor,
contractor doesn't pay their supplier, supplier puts lien on _your_
house for the money owed. Want to
> On Oct 19, 2022, at 6:16 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
> ...a couple of years ago I wrote an article about the invention of FM radio,
> in Holland in 1919 (no, not by Armstrong in the USA in the late 1920s).
That sounds interesting, Paul — I’m only familiar with the usual
> Owe the local government a few bucks in unpaid tax? They steal your
> house (well, technically not - they put a lien on it and then foreclose).
Yes, if you do not pay you taxes (or rent) - you SHOULD lose your land
after some amount of time.
What I am talking about is Eminent Domain (in the
Le 19/10/2022 à 15:50, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk a écrit :
Florida seems to be particularly creative, too: pay your contractor,
contractor doesn't pay their supplier, supplier puts lien on _your_
house for the money owed. Want to keep your house? Better pay again
and then try to extract
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 10:36:58AM -0400, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean.
>
> Anyway, in the US, there are *significant* barriers to cross for
> people taking your land.
Owe the local government a few bucks in unpaid tax? They steal your
house (well,
> On Oct 18, 2022, at 11:51 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk
> wrote:
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>> I like how having the old hardware gives physical "witness" and "evidence"
>> that all the old stories are true - people did invent and create these
>> things, they didn't just appear from aliens.
>
> Indeed. I am teaching
I like how having the old hardware gives physical "witness" and "evidence"
that all the old stories are true - people did invent and create these
things, they didn't just appear from aliens.
Indeed. I am teaching a security class on TCP/IP and I recently got my
AT 7300 PC up and running with
I had a thought once that the ultimate computer museum would be in orbit.
Actually, I think there was some Star Trek episode along those lines (not
the one where Data was captured to be put into a museum, but something
similar).
I like how having the old hardware gives physical "witness" and
On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:42 AM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
wrote:
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>> Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean.
>> Anyway, in the US, there are *significant* barriers to cross for
>> people taking your land.
>
> And for the younger crowd it's very expensive now. Not like the old days
> (assuming
All you need is a the local government to declare eminent domain and
greater user for the public good.
Arthur Dent's home, and planet, were bulldozed to make way for bypasses.
Don't pay your taxes and it goes quick.
-Original Message-
From: William Donzelli via cctalk
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 10:36 AM
To: Ethan O'Toole ; William Donzelli via cctalk
Cc: William Donzelli
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012
Don't be pedantic
On 10/18/22 11:43, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
All you need is a the local government to declare eminent domain and
greater user for the public good.
As the people and businesses along I-83 in Harrisburg, PA will
gladly tell you. :-)
bill
All you need is a the local government to declare eminent domain and
greater user for the public good.
On 10/18/2022 9:36 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean.
Anyway, in the US, there are *significant* barriers to cross for
people taking your land.
At 09:15 AM 10/18/2022, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
>>Own your land.
>>Museum or individual.
>
>You never own your land. They can always take it.
Far more probable than someone taking your property? Wanting to give it up.
Needing to give it up. Or your death, and then someone else wants and
> All you need is a the local government to declare eminent domain and
> greater user for the public good.
Those would be the "significant barriers to cross".
--
Will
Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean.
Anyway, in the US, there are *significant* barriers to cross for
people taking your land.
And for the younger crowd it's very expensive now. Not like the old days
(assuming you live near a job center.)
- Ethan
Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean.
Anyway, in the US, there are *significant* barriers to cross for
people taking your land.
--
Will
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 10:15 AM Ethan O'Toole wrote:
>
> > Own your land.
> > Museum or individual.
>
> You never own your land. They can always take it.
Own your land.
Museum or individual.
You never own your land. They can always take it.
- Ethan
October 2022 19:55
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> > Cc: Sellam Abraham
> > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012
> >
> > Long story very short:
> >
> > Landlords evicted me
Not saying that what the landlord did was ethically, morally or even
legally correct, just that you could have avoided the whole disaster; I'm
sure the community would have gladly chipped in to help, but I think your
attitude at the time was not very helpful..
You certainly had (and have) my
Mike,
I'm trying not to extend this conversation, because I am not interested in
a pity-party, but this kind of comment is insulting. Of course I should
have paid the rent. And vy the way, as soon as I had it, I offered it, but
they refused the tender.
Regardless, when someone gets evicted,
gt; -Original Message-
> From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk
> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2022 19:55
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Cc: Sellam Abraham
> Subject: [cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012
>
> Long story very short:
>
>
: [cctalk] Re: Great Vintage Computer Heist of 2012
Long story very short:
Landlords evicted me from their warehouse where my collection was stored and
wouldn't let me back in. Had to go to court. Regained access and was able to
pull out 20% of the collection before they locked me out again for good
Shoulda paid the rent.
A sad tale indeed.
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:11 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> The good news is that most of my best stuff was either already with me or I
> was able to get out, including my two Lisa 1's, my (straight) PDP-8, and
> several
On 10/17/22 2:14 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
There were many benefactors from my loss, many innocent, some not.
Understood.
Those who benefitted from ill-begotten gains will pay for it in other ways,
if they haven't already. Such is the natural law.
Agreed.
For the record, my
There were many benefactors from my loss, many innocent, some not.
Those who benefitted from ill-begotten gains will pay for it in other ways,
if they haven't already. Such is the natural law.
Sellam
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:38 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On
The good news is that most of my best stuff was either already with me or I
was able to get out, including my two Lisa 1's, my (straight) PDP-8, and
several other precious items. I long since sold off most of this to pay to
live, since at the same time they destroyed my collection they destroyed
On 10/17/22 12:52 PM, Ryan de Laplante via cctalk wrote:
Not everything could come home with me, so I sold the remaining lower
priority pieces to the first person who could clear the locker over
a weekend. I didn’t get much for it, but at least it didn’t go
to a recycler.
Hopefully you boot
I didn’t know you were able to recover 20% of the collection before being
locked out again. I know losing any of it is terrible, but I’m guessing you
prioritized the very best pieces of the collection when recovering the 20%,
such as your Lisa 1?
I kept my collection in storage lockers for
Never mind the civil suits, it sounds to me (from the facts you quoted) that
criminal charges might have been warranted.
paul
> On Oct 17, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk
> wrote:
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> I did. It stretched on for a couple years, as civil suits are wont to do.
> But because
I did. It stretched on for a couple years, as civil suits are wont to do.
But because I didn't have the legal chops I have now, I did not prevail.
Hard lesson learned. Trust no man. Definitely trust no lawyer.
Sellam
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 2:00 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk
wrote:
> Did you
Did you take them to court again to get compensation for what must have
been a substantial loss? Very strange story. You must have been furious.
On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, 4:54 pm Sellam Abraham via cctalk, <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Long story very short:
>
> Landlords evicted me from their
Long story very short:
Landlords evicted me from their warehouse where my collection was stored
and wouldn't let me back in. Had to go to court. Regained access and was
able to pull out 20% of the collection before they locked me out again for
good. Then sold the rest to computer recyclers,
You had to ask..I was there 3000 years ago (or about 10 years ago in non
Tolkien meme terms) and it wasn't pretty
Original message From: Tom Hunter via cctalk
Date: 10/17/22 1:31 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "General
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: Tom
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